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yuhhaur
post Nov 1 2012, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 1 2012, 10:52 AM)
After that challenge, go to see and fight siegebreaker! Let us know the outcome, please.
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SB problem? I have no problem tanking SB @ MP8 IM, even with the kacau of ZK whistling.gif

Challenge accepted, but beratur sikit lol.
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post Nov 1 2012, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 1 2012, 10:54 AM)
SB problem? I have no problem tanking SB @ MP8 IM, even with the kacau of ZK whistling.gif

Challenge accepted, but beratur sikit lol.
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...in MP10, just watch out for SB's enrage!


Added on November 1, 2012, 10:59 am
QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Nov 1 2012, 10:20 AM)
speaking of the current topics between u 2....

last night played mp7 coop with lau pan, moba,  kuhiko and zhong + black (second round portal). im using my current 100K DPS MOC-Overawe set-up...the finding were

1) i cant lazy tank anymore...meaning i cant barge in sit in the middle..i have to be very careful with arcane and descretor cuz with low  allress with average 730++ unbuffed even after buff by barb becomes 1000 allress....will definitely eat me very fast..not like last time...with barb buff...i can get around 1.2K allress...

2) reflects dmg is very very pain....i really need to kite when coming into these type of elite...

3) my life bar fluctuation (up n down) bcuz of being hit is very scary...really scary...not like last time stable usually at full health...

4) dmg wise im so happy..everything can clear very fast..

conclusion..

1) either i change back my past equipment set-up which will lead me back to 83K DPS unbuffed.. cry.gif  cry.gif

2) find LOH item in the armor which is i think the best candidate will be a blackthorne duncraid crost (usually with high LOH)

3) become a dual wielder...straight find the ultimate weapon with LOS/LS/CD/Socketed

4) Dont use MOC-Overawe instead use MOH-Time of Need..

3) or lastly change the same glove n the same witching hour with an All Ress attribute....damn! this gonna be very expensive!!..

p/s: even after finish the round..a guys said in the group this team can go MP9 etc....but inside myself i said...i cant be a tanker even in MP8 anymore using the current MOC-Overawe set-up...and i have a mix feelings about that...
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It's a pleasure to see your monk tanking and thanks for the game ...just didn't realise it was you in-game, though! Otherwise, I would have continued with the final set of uber fight with the one and only LYN P100 monk character class!

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post Nov 1 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Nov 1 2012, 10:25 AM)
I did face the problem you face when I switch from Shielding -> Dual. Yes it take times to adopt to the situation and gear change to suit. I will still use MoC to give party benefit, is okies to die 1-2 times as long as kill those elite and uber boss in short time. Definitely Loh/Ls is important for Dual if you wanna tank. Like you say I wearing blackthorne duncraid cross with 600+ LoH.
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I have a monk friend who has the same problem too, he cant use MoC after MP8. Most uber boss will kill him without MoE. After yesterday fight with you I see significant dps boost with ur MoC. damn that is so OP.
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post Nov 1 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 1 2012, 10:56 AM)
...in MP10, just watch out for SB's enrage!


Added on November 1, 2012, 10:59 am
It's a pleasure to see your monk tanking and thanks for the game ...just didn't realise it was you in-game, though! Otherwise, I would have continued with the final set of uber fight with the one and only LYN P100 monk character class!
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peace!!.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 1 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 1 2012, 10:59 AM)
I have a monk friend who has the same problem too, he cant use MoC after MP8. Most uber boss will kill him without MoE. After yesterday fight with you I see significant dps boost with ur MoC. damn that is so OP.
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this is why we had friendly discussion on monk = party king back then a few days ago tongue.gif
24/48% extra damage is so OP now I afraid will get nerf soon unsure.gif
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post Nov 1 2012, 11:18 AM

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moe hard target vs moh time of need
which one is better

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post Nov 1 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 1 2012, 10:59 AM)
I have a monk friend who has the same problem too, he cant use MoC after MP8. Most uber boss will kill him without MoE. After yesterday fight with you I see significant dps boost with ur MoC. damn that is so OP.
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Yeah 1st game (mp7) I using 24% (less 10% damage from enemy) only but 2nd (mp8) and 3rd times (mp8) I using 48% (additional 24%). I spam like nobody business. I use 48% when only with barbarian (war cry).

Nice game by the way but last game abit hard for kulle~ Dont know why all keep dying, I also die once.

QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 1 2012, 11:12 AM)
this is why we had friendly discussion on monk = party king back then a few days ago tongue.gif
24/48% extra damage is so OP now I afraid will get nerf soon unsure.gif
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Ermmm that too bad tongue.gif But only high Armor and Resistance monk use MoC else most AVG monk use MoE or MoH.


Added on November 1, 2012, 11:29 am
QUOTE(moko82 @ Nov 1 2012, 11:18 AM)
moe hard target vs moh time of need
which one is better
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MoE definely better for the 3 seconds. Additional Dodge and Armor++

MoE = 3 seconds 15% Chance Dodge = You get -100% damage from enemy
MoH = Absorb little tiny damage from enemy.

I was MoH user for very long time but after change to MoE Hard Target... I stick to it...

Now I using MoC due to I got enough armor and resistance.

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post Nov 1 2012, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Nov 1 2012, 11:25 AM)
Yeah 1st game (mp7) I using 24% (less 10% damage from enemy) only but 2nd (mp8) and 3rd times (mp8) I using 48% (additional 24%). I spam like nobody business. I use 48% when only with barbarian (war cry).

Nice game by the way but last game abit hard for kulle~ Dont know why all keep dying, I also die once.
Ermmm that too bad tongue.gif But only high Armor and Resistance monk use MoC else most AVG monk use MoE or MoH.

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yeah first round MP8 was smooth.. 2nd round MP8 I had a bad connection there, wasn't able to control properly.. and also did a few mistakes too.. kulle's fire bomb can one shot me if no sentry/no gloom

yeah before I know about MoC I thought Mask of Death is the best.. then that 12%? meh.. lol

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post Nov 1 2012, 02:02 PM

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i can use any mantra in a party game for uberbosses up until mp9 (never tried 10)
just swap both my weapon emerald for amethyst. dps will be a 100k with BoH.

tanking SB even when hes enrage is no problem at all, ghom the easiest as hp dont even drop.

3 stacks desecrator hp will drop but slowly. around 5-6sec from full to 0 when im still hitting. so there is more than enuf time to just side step out of it
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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Nov 1 2012, 02:02 PM)
i can use any mantra in a party game for uberbosses up until mp9 (never tried 10)
just swap both my weapon emerald for amethyst. dps will be a 100k with BoH.

tanking SB even when hes enrage is no problem at all, ghom the easiest as hp dont even drop.

3 stacks desecrator hp will drop but slowly. around 5-6sec from full to 0 when im still hitting. so there is more than enuf time to just side step out of it
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when you bring me go kai kai and fight uber boss mang?
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Nov 1 2012, 02:14 PM)
when you bring me go kai kai and fight uber boss mang?
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i usually do it with full party each person having 3 IM, so we can do a total of 12 uberbosses
if u got some IM let me know we can form a party too kekeke
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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Nov 1 2012, 02:23 PM)
i usually do it with full party each person having 3 IM, so we can do a total of 12 uberbosses
if u got some IM let me know we can form a party too kekeke
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lol....ayam still virgin in IM ._.

nvm, i get them, i mesej snoobz
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Nov 1 2012, 02:30 PM)
lol....ayam still virgin in IM ._.

nvm, i get them, i mesej snoobz
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hehehe ok, get 1 also can already, we can do 1 round 3portals
1 IM each~
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post Nov 1 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Nov 1 2012, 02:37 PM)
hehehe ok, get 1 also can already, we can do 1 round 3portals
1 IM each~
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Aite, noted
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post Nov 1 2012, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Nov 1 2012, 02:45 PM)
Aite, noted
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dont forget me bro.. i hav 3 IM now.. hahaha
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post Nov 1 2012, 04:29 PM

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me 2 if you wan a tankable-non-dps monk. With 60k dps, Don't expect me to deal damage thou.

P.S. I got 2 key brows.gif
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QUOTE(amiranna @ Nov 1 2012, 04:27 PM)
dont forget me bro.. i hav 3 IM now.. hahaha
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 1 2012, 04:29 PM)
me 2 if you wan a tankable-non-dps monk. With 60k dps, Don't expect me to deal damage thou.

P.S. I got 2 key brows.gif
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post Nov 1 2012, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Nov 1 2012, 04:27 PM)
dont forget me bro.. i hav 3 IM now.. hahaha
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how can i forget u bro but i dont have any

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post Nov 1 2012, 05:19 PM

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talking about armor. How much uber monk had for efficiency in MP7-10?
mine now unbuff 5k armor + 650AR. If use STI can add another 1.2k armor to it but drop 12% dodge chance.
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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Nov 1 2012, 02:23 PM)
i usually do it with full party each person having 3 IM, so we can do a total of 12 uberbosses
if u got some IM let me know we can form a party too kekeke
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Really!? I'm free usually during the weekends, ...got 10 IMs ready.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Nov 1 2012, 06:26 PM

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