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SpikeTwo
post Oct 30 2012, 01:42 PM

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sad. i only 60k dps unbuff and you guys are on 100k already.
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post Oct 30 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(SleepEverywhere @ Oct 30 2012, 12:10 PM)
that is a good combos,150k-250k+DPS monks are using that combo too...blackthorne suit(no amulet), inna pant+helm...dont think i have enough golds to swap it to that atm tho, i have some of them on my friend list(US serv) and their advice is to get 150k+DPS, 700 AR, 5.5 LS, 45-50k HP...none was using LoH, btw thanks for the LoH input tho
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LS or LoH I think the important is you can survive when using them... I mean tank able Monk using ls/loh. As I understand LS need high damage (CC or CD) but LoH do not need. Every hit generate life (LoH doesnt care enemy amour or resistance)

2200 LoH in inferno (20%) is 440hp per second. With my attack speed 2.47 meaning 2.47x440 = 1068 p/s. I now can stand in desecrator, molten, poison and arcane (not in heart of lazer). For LS I really no idea because I never use them.

3% LS out of 100k is 3000 in inferno (20%) is 600. With my attack speed 2.47 meaning 2.47x600 = 1482 p/s. Provided I can every hit 100k damage which normally as I mention you need high CC and CD. For normal to average people I think LoH is still best for them.

QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Oct 30 2012, 01:42 PM)
sad. i only 60k dps unbuff and you guys are on 100k already.
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No need to be sad... be hardworking farm and earn money for better gear.. good luck

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post Oct 30 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Oct 30 2012, 01:42 PM)
sad. i only 60k dps unbuff and you guys are on 100k already.
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i was a 40K unbuffed DPS....b4 stating my progress here every 10K dps breached...until now...

no worries....flip flip and sell sell in AH (heck my d3 siggy says it all) and farm farm ....ull reach there... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 30 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Oct 30 2012, 01:42 PM)
sad. i only 60k dps unbuff and you guys are on 100k already.
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sadding more with 50k unbuff whistling.gif


Added on October 30, 2012, 2:32 pm
QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 30 2012, 01:56 PM)
LS or LoH I think the important is you can survive when using them... I mean tank able Monk using ls/loh. As I understand LS need high damage (CC or CD) but LoH do not need. Every hit generate life (LoH doesnt care enemy amour or resistance)

2200 LoH in inferno (20%) is 440hp per second. With my attack speed 2.47 meaning 2.47x440 = 1068 p/s. I now can stand in desecrator, molten, poison and arcane (not in heart of lazer). For LS I really no idea because I never use them.

3% LS out of 100k is 3000 in inferno (20%) is 600. With my attack speed 2.47 meaning 2.47x600 = 1482 p/s. Provided I can every hit 100k damage which normally as I mention you need high CC and CD. For normal to average people I think LoH is still best for them.
No need to be sad... be hardworking farm and earn money for better gear.. good luck
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LoH does not proc with Sweeping wind whistling.gif


Added on October 30, 2012, 2:39 pmMy point is, as far as tank monk is concern, get as much LS/LoH as possible and leave the killing to the others dpser.

And, also take into consideration of your effective hp, real hp vs healing rate. If you can LS/LoH for 10k per hit on a pathetic 25k health pool that is 40% healing power.

I myself constantly getting about 5k per hit and my 40k hp pool are hovering around 30-40k even on 3 dissecrater @ mp5.

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post Oct 30 2012, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 30 2012, 10:25 AM)
as long as above 50k unbuff should be good. Which, translated to about 36%CC+300%CD and you can recover about 10k health per hit - 25% on average monk 40k hp. the IAS is just that per seconds you hit more which more you heal. A 1.5 AS hit and 2.0 AS hit per hit is the same.
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the reason i asked so coz i'm having 100k unbuff dual wield with 3%LS, ias 2.5+, cc/cd 3x/3xx but i cant stand on molten, arcane and poison. If 5.5% LS does make the diff, i prolly will keep my gold for LS enchoing fury or something similar.

End up i use back my skorn which is more efficient to kill elites by 7sss taking off 40% of their life. 7sss didnt work well with dual wield unless ur main hand is high dps (my 1h main hand is enchoing fury 1k+dps).

QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 30 2012, 11:12 AM)
does monk go for skorn?
1307dps, 305dx, 198CD, 1895 LOH

how much this worth?
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Haha i'm one of the skorn user. I'm enjoying the massive hit instead of speed. Finger pain at kip spamming LMB on dual wield.

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post Oct 30 2012, 02:43 PM

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does anyone using Schaefers's Hammer?

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i got 2 of it, 1 LOH and the other LS.

i had tested it, with the high LOH, no problem solo A3 MP4. thumbup.gif
the proc is very nice - "25-50% chance to be protected by Lightning when you are hit."
When you are protected by lightning, it can help you hit/critical hit mobs that surrounding you.
so fun saw those mobs hit by lightning when they hitting you but you just standing there do nothing laugh.gif
Also, the price in AH is quite cheap, you can get a decent stats with 1mil only.
downside is the attack speed is low, not much crit dmg and causing total DPS become low also.
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post Oct 30 2012, 03:18 PM

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Last night tried benchmark Ghom mp8 took me 5min. No issue with health problem just stand still and whack.
Basing on MP level 10 should be 2 times more hp than mp8 so I can get my kill around 10-15min. Gonna try out today.

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post Oct 30 2012, 04:59 PM

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u have nice LoH. im still lacking LoH to facetank Ghom.
at mp6-7 if the dps is not fast enough, i couldnt tank ghom till he's dead.
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QUOTE(clautee @ Oct 30 2012, 02:40 PM)
... Finger pain at kip spamming LMB on dual wield.
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Why? Just press and hold la...


Added on October 30, 2012, 5:01 pmWhat is the proc coefficient for LoH in inferno? a 900LoH gear can still hit one mob and gain back 900 life per hit?
We all know LS is 20% in inferno.


Added on October 30, 2012, 5:04 pm
QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 30 2012, 04:59 PM)
u have nice LoH. im still lacking LoH to facetank Ghom.
at mp6-7 if the dps is not fast enough, i couldnt tank ghom till he's dead.
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That is why I am in dilemma now should I go for the 100k challenge and overhaul my gear?? Not that I can't survive higher MP levels, just slower and currently I am doing good in MP6 and quite satisfy (beside the need to fork out huge amount of gold, which I don't have).


dilemma dilemma dilemma icon_question.gif

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post Oct 30 2012, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 30 2012, 04:59 PM)
Why? Just press and hold la...


Added on October 30, 2012, 5:01 pmWhat is the proc coefficient for LoH in inferno? a 900LoH gear can still hit one mob and gain back 900 life per hit?
We all know LS is 20% in inferno.
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Used to hold prior to MP introduction. Nw I felt spam will hit faster. Prolly the mob long hp play a part.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 30 2012, 04:59 PM)
Why? Just press and hold la...


Added on October 30, 2012, 5:01 pmWhat is the proc coefficient for LoH in inferno? a 900LoH gear can still hit one mob and gain back 900 life per hit?
We all know LS is 20% in inferno.
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LoH co efficiency is based on skill you use. Inferno has no effect.

My DPS has been stagnant for a long time... so hard to find gear that can improve DPS without reducing my vit/resist/armor... sad.gif

guess i am destined to farm at low MP...
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post Oct 30 2012, 05:10 PM

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i'm going for LoH with IAS build. trying to add in CC% to increase my dps.

i dare not go with LS because i read somewhere, to have LS work efficiently, it would require very high and consistent dps. i would think high IAS+LoH work better.

main concern also coz i got no gold ahha
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post Oct 30 2012, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 30 2012, 04:59 PM)
Why? Just press and hold la...


Added on October 30, 2012, 5:01 pmWhat is the proc coefficient for LoH in inferno? a 900LoH gear can still hit one mob and gain back 900 life per hit?
We all know LS is 20% in inferno.


Added on October 30, 2012, 5:04 pm
That is why I am in dilemma now should I go for the 100k challenge and overhaul my gear?? Not that I can't survive higher MP levels, just slower and currently I am doing good in MP6 and quite satisfy (beside the need to fork out huge amount of gold, which I don't have).
dilemma dilemma dilemma  icon_question.gif
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go for the 100k challenge....its a grind game...as we all know..so killing efficiency counts here..more kills more drops more legendary.....try to set a target to be efficient enough to go MP10.....just my 2cents..

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 30 2012, 05:06 PM)
LoH co efficiency is based on skill you use. Inferno has no effect.

My DPS has been stagnant for a long time... so hard to find gear that can improve DPS without reducing my vit/resist/armor...  sad.gif

guess i am destined to farm at low MP...
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Cant say this bro... I use not to change my low dps weapon due to it had 288 vit on it. But I arrange and make myself reach 100k unbuff. But problem is you need gold for those item. However I am also looking for shoulder to upgrade for adding vit~
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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 30 2012, 05:10 PM)
i'm going for LoH with IAS build. trying to add in CC% to increase my dps.

i dare not go with LS because i read somewhere, to have LS work efficiently, it would require very high and consistent dps. i would think high IAS+LoH work better.

main concern also coz i got no gold ahha
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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Oct 30 2012, 05:10 PM)
go for the 100k challenge....its a grind game...as we all know..so killing efficiency counts here..more kills more drops more legendary.....try to set a target to be efficient enough to go MP10.....just my 2cents..
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post Oct 30 2012, 05:13 PM

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close to 2b to get all that..
unless i get a godly drop out of luck i cant afford
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post Oct 30 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 30 2012, 05:12 PM)
Yes~ This is way to get rich tongue.gif
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the game mechanism just promote us on doing that...its a grind game..ur goal is getting better equipment..thats it..

but in order to achieve that...one must first grind....and one will succeed if he can kill faster and last longer.....pls take note thats a two different things to look for..

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post Oct 30 2012, 05:15 PM

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I was lucky enough that both weapons cost me only 2mil mainhand + 26.5mil offhand (Damn you another player keep on racing bet with me that time, was suppose to be 5mil in last 1 minute)
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post Oct 30 2012, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 30 2012, 05:15 PM)
I was lucky enough that both weapons cost me only 2mil mainhand + 26.5mil offhand (Damn you another player keep on racing bet with me that time, was suppose to be 5mil in last 1 minute)
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when i filter, i couldn't bear losing the attack speed that i only look for fist weapons. not much choice. i couldn't even get the shenlong i was bidding ytd. i stopped at 60mill because im starting to feel ridiculous lol..

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