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MOBAJOBG
post Nov 30 2012, 10:23 PM

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Masters & Seniors;

Is this fist weapon good or bad? (young padawan or baby monk is enquiring)
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post Dec 1 2012, 08:06 AM

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So, how much eHP to strife for to play in mp5 & mp10?

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post Dec 3 2012, 11:20 AM

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...no music, here. Sorry!

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Baby monk has just managed to farm keys in mp8 (solo) with minimal deaths ...stats are 480 ar, 5.4K armor, 45K hp, 1.45 ias, 5.8 ls 2h (barb) skorn and 125k ttl dps (unbuff).

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post Dec 3 2012, 02:52 PM

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I would love to try the build as follows (for mp8 games);-

Active Skill
Fist of Thunder -Thunderclap
Crippling Wave -Concussion (feels quite weak when confronting OP elites w/o it)
Serenity -Ascension
Mantra of Conviction -Overawe
Breath of Heaven -Blazing Wrath (using Blinding Flash -FitL now)
Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skill
Combination Strike
Beacon of Ytar
Seize the Initiative

Please comment!

Note:
Relevant stats are 480 ar (will boost to ~700 for mp10 games), 5.4K armor, 45K hp, 1.45 ias, 5.8 ls 2h (barb) skorn and 125k ttl dps (unbuff). Battlenet profile is not updated with the current gears and weapon yet.

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post Dec 3 2012, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 3 2012, 03:08 PM)
Which MP you wanna farm? high DPS... 480 ar... low ias... can you farm well in mp8? (no, i can't farm in mp8!)

Consider changing rune from Ascension to something else if you have high LoH/LS which allow you to recover enough HP in 3 seconds. Reply: Ok, will check this out.

Consider changing Crippling Wave to Deadly Reach+Foresight if you farm lower MP for more DPS. Reply: Thks, for the advice.

Consider dual wield for faster IAS (dont put your awesome fist of fury in inventory, make good use of it!) Reply: I'm still clueless as to harness its full potential without hurting my baby monk!, hehehe.
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Normal mobs were dispatched off in a matter of seconds while elites just takes 4x-5x longer times ...baby monk hardly dies in mp8 now so, intends to step up to mp9 and finally, mp10.

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post Dec 3 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 3 2012, 03:22 PM)
well his reason for crippling wave is that he feels more secure dealing with elites.

so there's also DR - keen eye smile.gif
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Actually, I did try Deadly Reach (DR) -Foresight in mp7 games earlier and dies quite often to OP elites but I should have tried DR -Keen Eye instead so will give it a focused stare tonight, hehehe.
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post Dec 3 2012, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 3 2012, 03:18 PM)
I just chip in some ideas also.

One problem with 2H is spirit regen as you APS is too slow to regain spirit. Perhaps chose guiding path for the 35% extra regen.

Serenity - Ascension is best if you opt for Beacon of Yatar as 20% cooldown plus 1 sec addition menas a cycle is only 15 Sec. And the  extra1 sec with 5.8% LS should be enough to cover the 6-7k life from peaceful response. So I differ with cow here on this. Reply: Pass.

I agree with cow that DR- foresight is a better choice compared with crippling wave.i.e maximizing bonus DPS. Reply: I will try Quazacolt suggestion of using the -keen eye rune as a possible solution.

DW is DW ..its up to your build style so I wont comment on that..if you feel 2H is fun..stick to it..smile.gif Reply; Alrighty!, my baby monk surely likes to use both variants; 2H weapon and also, dw with two 1H weapons for different kind of fights.
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I'm working on dropping STI for The Guardian's Path (using 2H skorn for games currently) eventually however, spirit resource availability is more than sufficient in mp8 now, the only issue is waiting for cooldown to expire perhaps, TGP is mandatory in mp10 games but I can't confirm this yet.

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post Dec 3 2012, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 3 2012, 04:25 PM)
Reason skorn is prefered choice is that they roll Dex...Boulder Breakers I dont think they roll high dex. Also, Skorn can roll up to 200 crit plus socket with Life steal.

Hence, when casting Sweeping Wind, the damage is snapshotted with all these attributes...hence the vortex will deal these damage at 45% and the cyclones at 20%.
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...will try to attain 1.74 ias to swing the 2H skorn swiftly.
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post Dec 3 2012, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Dec 3 2012, 04:45 PM)
TR build imo is not efficient in high MP farming, unless u have 200k dps.
most monks here dont bot, play with mastercard/visa.. hence im assuming skorn is not of a popular/proper choice.

it's STILL possible, i tried with my old skorn which i threw it away. but i have to go defensive play in order to survive properly.
to go full blast on dps, i find myself dying more often than the usual monk fist+fist builds.

plus, im a IAS nerd, 2H irritates me whenever i compare it with fists.
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o.O, ...my baby monk feels the urge to demo the 2H skorn SW -cyclone technique for your viewing pleasure and perhaps, stamp of approval.

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post Dec 3 2012, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Dec 3 2012, 05:07 PM)
haha means u gotta carry me a while first then..

i love that name chimmychanga.. LOL
sounds just right for a WD
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...can always avoid elite confrontations to ensure 100% survival hopefully, doesn't encounter dc.


Added on December 3, 2012, 5:17 pm
QUOTE(paranoid @ Dec 3 2012, 04:58 PM)
LOL, im never gonna use 2H because i love speed.

it's up to you if you love to use 2H. as long as we still farm together sometimes smile.gif
looking for groupie to roll HC soon.
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Once I can find a >1.1k dps fist weapon with chd, ls, LoH & open socket, I'm good to go dw with the Shenlong's Fist of Legend from my loot drop.

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post Dec 4 2012, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 3 2012, 06:07 PM)
on the other hand:
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courteously dedicated to new-born imba MOBAjobg monk.
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Thanks for the welcome gesture, I certainly appreciate it lots ...hopefully, my baby monk can graduate from the mp10 solo course eventually.
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post Dec 4 2012, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Dec 4 2012, 10:42 AM)
ytd i did one of the fastest mp8 run.
with yuhhaur, thales, and bringitawn.

the wiz timed our run. sb+kulle was down in 2min. the rest im not sure.
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so, when will it be possible for 4 monks to do mp8 uber run?
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post Dec 4 2012, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 4 2012, 10:50 AM)
Wow... that was indeed a speedy run.
The perma freeze Wiz is really good at SB/Kulle fight.
The damn Kulle is always pain in the arse.
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Is thales the totally perma-freeze wiz from start to finish or just almost perma-freeze wiz sometimes there is a slight stoppage?

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post Dec 4 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Bringitawn @ Dec 4 2012, 10:58 AM)
Ehhh, I think you made a mistake. I wasn't in the party when you did the uber run.  tongue.gif

It was yuhhaur's friend i think...

@paranoid: but it was fun partying with monks ytdy. Yuhhaur, cowithegun and you. 4 different mantras was pretty cool!
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My baby monk protests and not satisfied ...why yuhhaur, cowithegun, yourself and myself can't even defeat zk+sb in mp7?!, hehehe.

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post Dec 4 2012, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Bringitawn @ Dec 4 2012, 11:16 AM)
Hahaha....I think cowithgun left earlier and it was just 3 of us. We had 2 MoE (yuhhaur and myself). However no excuse! I think we can take them down with proper mantra coordination at the start.
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Thks for the explanation! ...and i can see that yuhhaur's monk is more powerful now, nod.gif
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post Dec 4 2012, 12:29 PM

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I will be trying the build as follows (for mp9 games tonight);-

Active Skill
Fist of Thunder -Thunderclap
Crippling Wave -Concussion (feels quite weak when confronting OP elites w/o it)
Serenity -Ascension
Mantra of Retribution -Indignation or other rune (using Mantra of Conviction -Overawe currently)
Breath of Heaven -Blazing Wrath (did a better job than Blinding Flash -FitL)
Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skill
Combination Strike
One with Everything (using Beacon of Ytar currently)
Seize the Initiative

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post Dec 4 2012, 01:49 PM

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I will be trying the build as follows (for mp9 games tonight);-

Option 1
Active Skill
Fist of Thunder -Thunderclap
Crippling Wave -Concussion (feels quite weak when confronting OP elites w/o it)
Serenity -Ascension
Mantra of Retribution -Indignation or other rune (using Mantra of Conviction -Overawe currently)
Breath of Heaven -Blazing Wrath (did a better job than Blinding Flash -FitL)
Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skill
Combination Strike
One with Everything (using Beacon of Ytar currently)
Seize the Initiative

Option 1
Active Skill
Fist of Thunder -Thunderclap
Crippling Wave -Concussion (feels quite weak when confronting OP elites w/o it)
Serenity -Ascension
Mantra of Retribution -Indignation or other rune (using Mantra of Conviction -Overawe currently)
Breath of Heaven -Blazing Wrath (did a better job than Blinding Flash -FitL)
Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skill
Combination Strike
One with Everything (using Beacon of Ytar currently)
Seize the Initiative

Option 2 created based on feedback responses from everyone, seems to be more solid.
Active Skill
Fist of Thunder -Thunderclap
Blinding Flash -FitL
Serenity -Ascension
Mantra of Retribution -Indignation or other rune (using Mantra of Conviction -Overawe currently)
Breath of Heaven -Blazing Wrath
Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skill
One with Everything
Beacon of Ytar
Seize the Initiative

...will try both build options in mp9 solo games. If fail, then Mantra of Retribution -Indignation can be replaced by Mantra of Healing -ToN.

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post Dec 4 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 4 2012, 02:01 PM)
Get a barb...dont need ToN tongue.gif
MoC overawe is a must to clear mp9/10 efficiently. +48% dmg for all party is no joke. even if you have overgeared players, MoC still the best to clear mp9/10 fast. nothing beats +48% dmg
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Ya, baby monk understands and agreed with master qicquser thoughts ...but I'm talking about solo games, sweat.gif

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post Dec 4 2012, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 4 2012, 02:06 PM)
ahh okay. didnt know you going solo. solo mp9/10 will be tiring and boring. hope you got something to keep you awake.
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Next time in any coop games, this baby monk is going to ask the barb ...got WarCry -Impunity ka? If not, MoC is not available, la!, icon_idea.gif

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post Dec 4 2012, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 4 2012, 02:12 PM)
even solo, nothing beats MoC.
the key is that while tanking, you regain back life through LS/LOH (Breath of Heaven only heals so little) so dealing 48% more damage means you get 48% more hp in return, which in turn lengthened your survivability beside giving you the higher damages.
If you can't tank without mantra, it simply means that your gear is not good enough.
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Based on my estimation, the existing gears used by my baby monk currently should be able to clear mp7 solo w/o chanting a mantra however I'm trying to push its boundaries playing at 2 levels higher without any gear upgrades by experimenting with the skills set, if possible.

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