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post Dec 4 2012, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 4 2012, 02:43 PM)
Hmm just tested MoR....errrrrrr....not very good as I notice that ground effects are not reflected, i.e molten/arcane/descre

Only physical attacks are reflected....me thinks moC is still better for solo.
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Thanks for testing MoR out therefore I don't have to waste my time.

I was banking on elemental damage to be reflected back, ...so MoC can't be replaced except by MoE or MoH.

If I'm not mistaken, I've noticed that Barbs Overpower -Crushing Advance (Redirect 35% of incoming melee and ranged damage for 4 seconds after Overpower is activated) does reflect back elemental damage. My barb certainly likes to spin in the molten red fires and poisonous green pools by hitting on the OP -CA skill frequently.

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post Dec 4 2012, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 4 2012, 04:13 PM)
sadly monk don't have such OP weapons.


Added on December 4, 2012, 4:14 pmeven the dex rolled skorn also can't help much.
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My baby monk found this out the hard way.
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post Dec 4 2012, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 4 2012, 04:27 PM)
And, the infamous EF does not give LS + socket + CHD, for the sake of 0.24 att spd on BOTH HAND
Sickle is the next worthy candidate, it has base CHD + LS, so 2 RNG roll might ends up with superb weapon.

sunkeeper, earthshatter, skysplitter, sankis, daggers, spears, swords are not worth mentioning.
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How's about The Fist of Az'Turrasq legendary L63 fist weapon?
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post Dec 4 2012, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 4 2012, 04:39 PM)
and that goes down to the root of the weapon system in D3:
1. high damage-slow item (2H)
2. high speed low damage item (dagger)
3. different scaling in between 1 and 2.

So, you want to whack 1mil damages per hit per second (att spd 1.0) or 2hit average 500k damages per hit in a second (att spd 2.0)?


Added on December 4, 2012, 4:41 pmcertainly for monk's case, dual wield gives you higher spirit generation.
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I can certainly play with both extremes.
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post Dec 4 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 4 2012, 05:49 PM)
To stay away from OWE, try to gear up with armors with
-High AR 60-80 on all parts (expensive as DH is competing with monks on those)
-High armor (was cheap 1-2 months back, now this prop is getting expensive)
-High life regen (still considered as the undervalued prop)
-Don't go for items which have a bomb price for little vit. For example, an armor with high dex with little vit (30-50) usually cost a lot more expensive than high dex/high str. Ppl generally dont like this because of the messed up stats. but if you convert str to armor, it can boost your ehp more than the petty vit.

That's pretty much it to stay away from OWE. If the nerf is not too hard on OWE, one can still use OWE. but prepare for the worst. STI took a pretty bad punch to monks. from 100% > 50% dex as armor.
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My monk that is on the verge of puberty has to choose the options as follow;-
1. get TWH belt and Inna Temperance with AR, both without AR now (unfortunately)
2. keep TWH belt, get Inna Temperance with AR (or just share my barb's almost imba rare pants at the expense of lower dps) and also, use the perfect block stormshield with chc

Thanks to both Masters; sangtupperware and qicquser for their respective ideas ...confident can clear mp9 now.

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post Dec 4 2012, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Dec 4 2012, 08:11 PM)
need to confirm something guys..

if i got an ilvl 62 item in Act 3 MP0, will it rolled ilvl 63 stats?

or i need to be in MP1 minimum for the ilvl62 item to roll ilvl 63 stat eventhough i farm in Act3 MP0?
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If your monk can't play in mp1 by all means there is no other choice but to be involved in mp0 games otherwise you'll lose the benefits that comes with monster power level such as explained by gladfly mentioned above.

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post Dec 4 2012, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Dec 4 2012, 11:09 PM)
i didnt even say or mentioned i cant play mp1, tried mp5 and doing just fine

anyway thanks gladfly
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You may not believe this assertation from me but some of my best loot drops came from mp1 and to a much lesser extent mp10.

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post Dec 4 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Dec 4 2012, 11:31 PM)
my best drop is from MP0..

so wassup?
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lol!, agree to disagree ...however, everyone has different experience in-game. It's alright, though. All the best!, in your loot drop hunting. ~Peace.

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post Dec 5 2012, 07:14 AM

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...managed to obtain Act1 key in mp9 yesterday night was not difficult at all.
Attached Image not even 90k dps! hmm.gif

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post Dec 5 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Dec 5 2012, 08:58 AM)
lol...ya considering ur HP + ARMOR + AR + Blocked Chances or shortly eHP....unfortunate for me i don have a stormshield.. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

100k dps is just a common benchmark to fasten the killing only...even with that..if ur using Blazing wrath n MOC-Overawe ur DPS should be higher around 130K-150K DPS actually?.. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

if ur talking solo...i think most of us MP10 already...what counts is..for me off course is u do it with coop since the monster have more dmg...more hp..

p/s: until now i can not solo uber mp10 ZK+SB... they ZK slow is a real slacker... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif or maybe i just a noob... cry.gif  cry.gif
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Hi!, sangtupperware.

Thanks for providing some guidances which I've implemented to improve upon my monk, I appreciate it lots otherwise that char would still be stucked in mp8 so must try to attain at least 118K dps (unbuff). notworthy.gif

I'm really confused as to which is best in slot (BIS) for monk's chest armor as follow;-
1. Inna's Vast Expanse that comes with AR so can reap the set bonus of 130 dex
2. Tal Rasha's Relentless Pursuit that comes with AR and dex so with the attack speed increase attribute hopefully can contribute to higher spirit regeneration since an overpriced mempo with chc is cost prohibitive.
3. Blackthorne's Surcoat that comes with dex and massive amount of vit as I've heard people say nice things about it.

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post Dec 5 2012, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Dec 5 2012, 09:29 AM)
owh ya..ur right..my bad... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif .....

anyway goodluck on ur upgrade...actually i really wanna try 3 set of inna's..for that spirit bonus too..but seems like im restricted on my dps requirement..therefore..im holding back until now...
this one...i cant really tell actually...

combination of 2 inna's (pant+cloth) + 3 natalya's (helm+ring+shoes) = 8% IAS (inna pants) + 260 dex + 7 cc...that will be nice...

but if ur wearing tal rasha's..ur gonna only get 8% IAS....which is my current build now....actually i was targeting to get 2.00 IAS on sword shield build ...which after that i now have 1.96 ASP....thats why i use tal-rasha's plus a minor DPS ofcourse..

blackthorne actually was my real aim last time...but i need to pair it with its duncraig cross ONLY cuz if i pair it with other parts ..it will jeopardize my other equipment like my Witching Hour, my inna's + bonus, or natalya's + bonus...unfortunately i need a duncraig cross with a CC+CD which price is 1B above until now...therefore i skipped that..

suggestion?..well look at ur needs?..do u have enough eHP (Blackthorne)?...do u have enough ASP (Tal Rasha)?..or do need pure DPS? ( inna's + natalya comb.)...its a give n take stuff actually...according to ur personal requirement..
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Quazacolt's post and your response have been instrumental in my decision to choose Inna's Vast Expanse and if my monk is still short of IAS then can just upgrade the Litany of the Undaunted to Natalya's Reflection ring that comes with average damage, attack speed & either chc or chd.

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post Dec 5 2012, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 5 2012, 10:33 AM)
Blackthorne Chest + Ammy, for insane eHP. can get about 450 Vit and 13-14% life from there
Inna's Pant + Belt, for the dps lost from BT Ammy. IAS + holy dmg + 2% CC + 130 dex from set bonus
Natalya's Boot + Ring, for the set bonus 7% CC. IAS from nat ring helps too but a CC or CD Nat ring would be nice

If you are favouring for more dps, go for a rare dps ammy (9-10% CC and 70%+ CD). Combo with tal rasha for IAS.

I feel that Inna + Natalya combo is too good to let go for dps build.
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...or another viable option is as follow;
1. Blackthorne's Surcoat that has AR and massive amount of vit only w/o its ammy (already owns an existing trifecta with vit ones) and
2. Inna's Temperance that has AR to combo with an existing Inna's Radiance and
3. Natalya's Reflection with average damage, ias and either chc or chd to combo with an existing Natalya's Bloody Footprints.

...needs more gold to cater for this setup. Thank-you for your suggestion.

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post Dec 5 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Dec 5 2012, 11:36 AM)
yes those inna parts is 50mil range if you get only your element resist instead of AR.

looks at my poor monk.. i cant afford AR too.
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What is your recommended attacks per second for monk?

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post Dec 5 2012, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Dec 5 2012, 02:44 PM)
she's not wearing vile ward.. so the monks are playing it wrong.. laugh.gif
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The female monk looks too young and seems too feeble to fight the demons but the female DH is a killer bounty huntress.

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post Dec 5 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(yhyean @ Dec 5 2012, 05:13 PM)
Hello

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/lexicon...cision/19056461

checking in.
Please rate n advise for improvement.
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...(asking a question in return), can your monk farm for all the keys in mp10 with minimal deaths? Your monk is not bad!

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post Dec 5 2012, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Klawo @ Dec 5 2012, 06:53 PM)
hi, didnt know that got a malaysian forum at loywat here. so... wanna ask how do u read the EHP? as in how much EHP would be effective for lets say mp5?
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Welcome!, Klawo.
Mine has managed to pick up the Act1 key in mp9 solo just yesterday night.

My monk courtesy of diabloprogress, ...there is a eHP unbuffed info available for reference. You can put your battlenet tag in the "Add or Search" box to check your own monk.

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post Dec 5 2012, 07:26 PM

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There are a lot of great masters, sifus and seniors that have given awesome advices, useful guidance and controversial debates in this monk thread.

I just need to read and follow, hopefully got it right.

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post Dec 6 2012, 10:52 AM

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double post, see below.

Added on December 6, 2012, 10:53 am
QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Dec 6 2012, 10:46 AM)
ya lo..thats why i dunno wanna go inna or not cause my current depth diggers give me ar. if i were 2 go inna i gotta change a few equip liao like my glove and bracer to ar one
the free sweeping wind bonus very tempting but inna vast expanse no ar....to use the pants i gotta overhaul my glove and bracers to the one with ar....maybe i should get a surcoat + glove + bracer then pants slow slow upgrade...at least got goal to work 2
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...try to attain ias > 2.00 to ensure spirit resource regeneration is sufficient to spam high cost skills such as Sweeping Winds etc so, don't be tempted by the complete set bonus unless you absolutely are keen to build a pure monk.

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post Dec 6 2012, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 6 2012, 11:39 AM)
Monk = party king due to the mantra.
precisely due to the MoC: Overawe that grants 24/48% damages to party, and we can almost spam spam 48% permanently~!
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...actually can spam perma-MoC: Overawe but must activate Sweeping Wind -Cyclone beforehand.

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post Dec 10 2012, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Dec 10 2012, 10:09 AM)
Guys, need your opinion on changing my current belt and ammy. life drop around 2k should be okay.i'm planning to increase cc & cd on my ammy. and increase my AR.

Thanks.
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From my observation, while you look for gears with INT stat whereas for me it's STR stat preferential. LOL!

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