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post Dec 13 2012, 04:20 PM

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post Dec 13 2012, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Dec 13 2012, 04:20 PM)
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me too! The land of Ivgorod is fortunate to have a few new potential Monks. We shall raise against the arrogance Barbalina (they only know how to twirl...) when the time is right. Fortified yourself for the inevitable PVP...
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post Dec 13 2012, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 13 2012, 04:39 PM)
me too! The land of Ivgorod is fortunate to have a few new potential Monks. We shall raise against the arrogance Barbalina (they only know how to twirl...) when the time is right. Fortified yourself for the inevitable PVP...
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post Dec 13 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 13 2012, 04:39 PM)
me too! The land of Ivgorod is fortunate to have a few new potential Monks. We shall raise against the arrogance Barbalina (they only know how to twirl...) when the time is right. Fortified yourself for the inevitable PVP...
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lol.. very the comel.. barbalina like my new barbie..LOL
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post Dec 13 2012, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Dec 13 2012, 04:29 PM)
Bro, select new skills for your enchan....dah 60 tongue.gif
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tau saje je.. on active skill only.. second round SB MP 10..


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post Dec 13 2012, 05:06 PM

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Need to seek sifu's help when I reach 60 nanti tongue.gif

Now comes the pain of leveling up again.
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post Dec 13 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Dec 13 2012, 05:06 PM)
Need to seek sifu's help when I reach 60 nanti tongue.gif

Now comes the pain of leveling up again.
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haha.. make it 2 days journey. did my Barb in 2 days time to reach lvl 60 (1). flex.gif
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post Dec 13 2012, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(samuraislash @ Dec 13 2012, 04:53 PM)
tau saje je.. on active skill only.. second round SB MP 10..
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I know why you can't kill SB before Enrage:

You hit like a lady.

LOL! Jes kidding. Nice video! I watch it a few times. The bell stun seem effective.

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 13 2012, 06:38 PM)
I know why you can't kill SB before Enrage:

You hit like a lady.

LOL! Jes kidding. Nice video! I watch it a few times. The bell stun seem effective.
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i think i hit like a girl now compared to all of you guys
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post Dec 13 2012, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 13 2012, 07:38 PM)
I know why you can't kill SB before Enrage:

You hit like a lady.

LOL! Jes kidding. Nice video! I watch it a few times. The bell stun seem effective.
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not me... my lady lady monk hit like a lady.. lol.. but still far way to go.. btw thx for ur guide (watched all ur yutub)... young padawan might lost if dont have guide from master jedi.. if not darth vader la jadinye.. XD
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post Dec 14 2012, 12:21 AM

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lets say if i use Zuni shoe, which add 8% poison damage and use it for Tempest run, Will my tempest run calculate the 8% poison damage into my total atk? and since i am using Skorn, which is Black weapon. will it increase my dps not on paper but for real?
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will flat out increase your damage, your Tempest run will be more powerful.

PS: actually, it does not matter if your weapon is elemental. you will still get damage increased. but since elemental weapon has lower Physical / Black damage range, the % you get will be smaller. BUT you will still get the additional damage!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6413025317#13

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post Dec 14 2012, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 14 2012, 12:53 AM)
will flat out increase your damage, your Tempest run will be more powerful.

PS: actually, it does not matter if your weapon is elemental. you will still get damage increased. but since elemental weapon has lower Physical / Black damage range, the % you get will be smaller. BUT you will still get the additional damage!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6413025317#13
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thanks, needed that info. now into SOJ , so always searching for some new one, either FOT/SW/TR/Wave of light... so yeah testing out different forms of play to see which give the most dmg output

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post Dec 14 2012, 03:11 AM

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Ok Fellow monks, i need your advice.

1. How does cyclone work?

2. For a 150k DPS monk unbuffed, what is your in game DPS?

Cuz seriously, my friend a DH on the EU just told me that a 200k DPS unbuffed monk is doing close to 900k in game DPS where he claims his DH (215k unbuffed) is doing 750k in game DPS.

Please, if this is true. i'm selling all my DH gears and roll a monk.
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post Dec 14 2012, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 14 2012, 03:11 AM)
Ok Fellow monks, i need your advice.

1. How does cyclone work?

2. For a 150k DPS monk unbuffed, what is your in game DPS?

Cuz seriously, my friend a DH on the EU just told me that a 200k DPS unbuffed monk is doing close to 900k in game DPS where he claims his DH (215k unbuffed) is doing 750k in game DPS.

Please, if this is true. i'm selling all my DH gears and roll a monk.
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1) first off, sweeping wind or cyclone or cyclone strike?
SW:
constant passive aura like damage that inflicts damage within a radius with ticks based on your aspd
cyclone spawns from sweeping wind final rune:
spawns a small cylone that deals lightning direct damage towards a single target around 2-3 times before despawning
cyclone strike:
draws all enemies within a certain radius towards you and deal a one time damage in the process

2) no damage meter, can only estimate.
however yes, depending on how much cyclone is spawned, SW snapshotting along with MoC etc, our damage are definitely much higher than what is shown on inventory.
case in point:
if i am dealing 300-400k dmg on FoT at around 1.7-1.8 aspd, i dont think my 70k dmg in inventory is legit smile.gif

the inventory damage indicator is just a guideline and there are many factors that aren't taken into account (eg: MoC)
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post Dec 14 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 14 2012, 03:11 AM)
Ok Fellow monks, i need your advice.

1. How does cyclone work?

2. For a 150k DPS monk unbuffed, what is your in game DPS?

Cuz seriously, my friend a DH on the EU just told me that a 200k DPS unbuffed monk is doing close to 900k in game DPS where he claims his DH (215k unbuffed) is doing 750k in game DPS.

Please, if this is true. i'm selling all my DH gears and roll a monk.
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I definitely would love to play both chars however based on my limited playtesting observation has convinced me that DH > monk but not by a large margin, lol.

[Edited several minutes later]
For instance, my DH defeats Diablo mp10 in ~9min 15sec whereas my monk took 2min 15sec longer and both chars have almost similar 175k sheet dps.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 14 2012, 10:19 AM
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post Dec 14 2012, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 14 2012, 03:11 AM)
Ok Fellow monks, i need your advice.

1. How does cyclone work?

2. For a 150k DPS monk unbuffed, what is your in game DPS?

Cuz seriously, my friend a DH on the EU just told me that a 200k DPS unbuffed monk is doing close to 900k in game DPS where he claims his DH (215k unbuffed) is doing 750k in game DPS.

Please, if this is true. i'm selling all my DH gears and roll a monk.
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Hmm... how do i put it?

In terms of survivability in high MP (9/10).
Generally, melee class heroes have better survivability as compared to ranged heroes.
Perma-freeze Wiz could be an exception.
So, monk has an edge there.

900K DPS in game by the monk, you need to check with your friend whether it is skill buffed.
Skill like Blinding Faith/Faith in Light only gives you 3s buff and it needs cool down for 15s (-20% cool down with a passive skill).

For me, DH can dish out 900K damage easily on multiple targets.
For instance, Bola + spike trap combo and it can hit 20-30 mobs simultaneously. Monk can't do that in general.
And these skills require no cool down.
So, DPSer, DH is much better.
(our fellow monk, Clautee, has rolled both monk and DH. He can verify this)

200K DPS monk - you need to sacrifice many defensive attributes.
Pretty much a "glass canon" build which I personally do not like.
Well, it is a trade off - DPS for lower defensive attributes.
I tried facetank MP10 Azmodan couple days ago... a lot of pain. Arcane in MP10 is very painful too.
(I didn't encounter such situation when I had 5500 Armor/1050AR)
Based on the current game patch & game play, monk could be the one & only class that relies on a lot of melee attack. Low defensive attributes aren't really good, especially if you want to do high MP (9/10).

Seriously, I am not sure how well monk do in MP10.
I have a little doubt on my monk as I slowly push up her DPS (A trade off)

My confidence in my monk is a bit shaken now (only in MP10). I used to play it with a lot of confidence with excellent survivability (among all the heroes I have).
I need to gain back the confidence. We need a monk party doing MP10 uber.
The last MP10 uber I did with monks was with the help of a perma-freeze Wiz (3 monks + 1 Wiz).
So, any confident monk wanna do MP10 uber? We need to test it out.
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post Dec 14 2012, 10:10 AM

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^^I've a monk that is passable for mp10.

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post Dec 14 2012, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 14 2012, 09:52 AM)
I definitely would love to play both chars however based on my limited playtesting observation has convinced me that DH > monk but not by a large margin, lol.

[Edited several minutes later]
For instance, my DH defeats Diablo mp10 in ~9min 15secs whereas my monk took 2min 15sec longer and both chars have almost similar 175k sheet dps.
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Technically speaking, monk should have shorter time because DH needs to kite a bit.

Anyway, if you look at damage caused by bola + spike trap, you know monk can never have such kind of damage.


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post Dec 14 2012, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 14 2012, 10:13 AM)
Technically speaking, monk should have shorter time because DH needs to kite a bit. 

Anyway, if you look at damage caused by bola + spike trap, you know monk can never have such kind of damage.
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I've managed to build a tanker DH that doesn't need to kite at all, ...just throw Grenade -SG, perma-Gloom & fire Cluster Arrow -LfB once per/sec flanked by 2 Sentry -GT turrets.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 14 2012, 10:17 AM

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