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yuhhaur
post Dec 3 2012, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 3 2012, 11:59 AM)
Switching my mempo to inna will be better?
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What you want to achieve? ppl are switching inna for mempo FYI

How's your survivability?
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post Dec 3 2012, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 3 2012, 12:00 PM)
What you want to achieve? ppl are switching inna for mempo FYI

How's your survivability?
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can solo up to mp6-7 depends on luck (not too many arcane elites).
then i'll keep my mempo for now tongue.gif
i'm trying to achieve higher dps without dropping survivability. swapping for my BT ammy is still in consideration. trying to overcome the the insane hp lost which is quite difficult.
also i'm favouring LoH over LS for pvp reasons.
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post Dec 3 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 3 2012, 11:52 AM)
Try make the ruby gem bigger?
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red gem doesn't help on offensive/defensive stats also


Added on December 3, 2012, 12:10 pm
QUOTE(paranoid @ Dec 3 2012, 11:52 AM)
if ur shenlong has sockets.. it'll be awesome.
and you only hv 25% crit chance.
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pretty much this. 200% crit dmg is huge.

then having your crit chance upgrades from bracer and gloves, that easily puts you well over 100k dmg smile.gif


Added on December 3, 2012, 12:12 pm
QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 3 2012, 12:05 PM)
also i'm favouring LoH over LS for pvp reasons.
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pvp not out yet; mechanics also unknown, and it is pretty damn obvious that the mechanics as it is won't work at all in pvp.

personally, i'll worry about it when it is officially announced.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 3 2012, 12:12 PM
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post Dec 3 2012, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 3 2012, 11:59 AM)
Switching my mempo to inna will be better?
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i tried to simulate my helm to inna with 6%cc, only gives me a little bit of extra dps.
so imo, mempo is better. since u favor LoH than LS too, IAS serves you better, gives both dps and also attack speed.
unless u can afford mempo with IAS+CC, then dont need to compare with inna's lol.
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post Dec 3 2012, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 3 2012, 11:57 AM)
no.
Sacrifice your dps for pickup radius instead, get cheap cheap boot for mp0 (alternative equip)
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err my current inna chest is lower Dex bro (137), the new one is around 190ish dex but lower vit and with pickup radius. I believe it will up my dps a bit (around 2.7k dps upgrade haha)
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post Dec 3 2012, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 3 2012, 11:48 AM)
Hi,
Need some advice to improve dps without dropping survivability stats. I'm quite lost atm to get gears.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/GymKhan...99/hero/4371030
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happy to see a monk with no OWE! you guys make us proud.

only Mempo with 6 crit chance worth considering. i found a few mempo previously, all sold, and still using my cheap Inna Radiance. crti chance gives you more cyclones which is signification contribution to your DPS that is not shown in your inventory DPS. it's so important that i always try to find max crit chance in all my gears. but mempo should not be the first you need to worry about.

upgrade your glove and bracer first, both have really low crit chance.

not sure if you are moving to the right directions on high IAS+LoH...

but personally, i prefer moving towards high Crit Chance+LS.

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Dec 3 2012, 01:41 PM
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post Dec 3 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Dec 3 2012, 01:09 PM)
err my current inna chest is lower Dex bro (137), the new one is around 190ish dex but lower vit and with pickup radius. I believe it will up my dps a bit (around 2.7k dps upgrade haha)
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IMHO, your 32k hp is already consider on the low side, and now you still want to tune it down? I rather sacrifice dex (since you got like 2.4k dex) and pump vit up.

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 3 2012, 01:40 PM)
happy to see a monk with no OWE! you guys make us proud.

only Mempo with 6 crit chance worth considering. i found a few mempo previously, all sold, and still using my cheap Inna Radiance. crti chance gives you more cyclones which is signification contribution to your DPS that is not shown in your inventory DPS. it's so important that i always try to find max crit chance in all my gears. but mempo should not be the first you need to worry about.

upgrade your glove and bracer first, both have really low crit chance.

not sure if you are moving to the right directions on high IAS+LoH...

but personally, i prefer moving towards high Crit Chance+LS.
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will seriously consider the upgrades on glove and bracer...with high requirements on AR...the price is getting out of hand sad.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 02:52 PM

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I would love to try the build as follows (for mp8 games);-

Active Skill
Fist of Thunder -Thunderclap
Crippling Wave -Concussion (feels quite weak when confronting OP elites w/o it)
Serenity -Ascension
Mantra of Conviction -Overawe
Breath of Heaven -Blazing Wrath (using Blinding Flash -FitL now)
Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skill
Combination Strike
Beacon of Ytar
Seize the Initiative

Please comment!

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Relevant stats are 480 ar (will boost to ~700 for mp10 games), 5.4K armor, 45K hp, 1.45 ias, 5.8 ls 2h (barb) skorn and 125k ttl dps (unbuff). Battlenet profile is not updated with the current gears and weapon yet.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 3 2012, 03:08 PM
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post Dec 3 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 3 2012, 01:40 PM)
happy to see a monk with no OWE! you guys make us proud.

only Mempo with 6 crit chance worth considering. i found a few mempo previously, all sold, and still using my cheap Inna Radiance. crti chance gives you more cyclones which is signification contribution to your DPS that is not shown in your inventory DPS. it's so important that i always try to find max crit chance in all my gears. but mempo should not be the first you need to worry about.

upgrade your glove and bracer first, both have really low crit chance.

not sure if you are moving to the right directions on high IAS+LoH...

but personally, i prefer moving towards high Crit Chance+LS.
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guys....freeing ur self from OWE is great..but don neglect it entirely....for the end tiers guys...try! ...not to push..but try to get double resistance....meaning if u got the chances...take AR n Single resist max it out...

just imagine AR (880) + SR (say fire 550) = OWE 1300++AR notworthy.gif notworthy.gif ...ur imba monk already... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Dec 3 2012, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 3 2012, 02:52 PM)
I would love to try the build as follows;-

Active Skill
Fist of Thunder -Thunderclap
Crippling Wave -Concussion
Serenity -Ascension
Mantra of Conviction -Overawe
Breath of Heaven -Blazing Wrath (using Blinding Flash -FitL now-)
Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skill
Combination Strike
Beacon of Ytar
Seize the Initiative

Please comment!

Note:
Relevant stats are 480 ar, 5.4K armor, 45K hp, 1.45 ias, 5.8 ls 2h (barb) skorn and 125k ttl dps (unbuff). Battlenet profile is not updated with the current gears and weapon yet.
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Which MP you wanna farm? high DPS... 480 ar... low ias... can you farm well in mp8? (no, i can't farm in mp8!)

Consider changing rune from Ascension to something else if you have high LoH/LS which allow you to recover enough HP in 3 seconds.

Consider changing Crippling Wave to Deadly Reach+Foresight if you farm lower MP for more DPS.

Consider dual wield for faster IAS (dont put your awesome fist of fury in inventory, make good use of it!)
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 3 2012, 03:08 PM)
Which MP you wanna farm? high DPS... 480 ar... low ias... can you farm well in mp8? (no, i can't farm in mp8!)

Consider changing rune from Ascension to something else if you have high LoH/LS which allow you to recover enough HP in 3 seconds.

Consider changing Crippling Wave to Deadly Reach+Foresight if you farm lower MP for more DPS.

Consider dual wield for faster IAS (dont put your awesome fist of fury in inventory, make good use of it!)
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I just chip in some ideas also.

One problem with 2H is spirit regen as you APS is too slow to regain spirit. Perhaps chose guiding path for the 35% extra regen.

Serenity - Ascension is best if you opt for Beacon of Yatar as 20% cooldown plus 1 sec addition menas a cycle is only 15 Sec. And the extra1 sec with 5.8% LS should be enough to cover the 6-7k life from peaceful response. So I differ with cow here on this.

I agree with cow that DR- foresight is a better choice compared with crippling wave.i.e maximizing bonus DPS.

DW is DW ..its up to your build style so I wont comment on that..if you feel 2H is fun..stick to it..smile.gif


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post Dec 3 2012, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Dec 3 2012, 02:54 PM)
just imagine AR (880) + SR (say fire 550) = OWE 1300++AR  notworthy.gif notworthy.gif ...ur imba monk already...
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nostalgia on the old tanking days when inferno was a brick wall.

had some 1600++ AR lolz
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post Dec 3 2012, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Dec 3 2012, 02:54 PM)
guys....freeing ur self from OWE is great..but don neglect it entirely....for the end tiers guy...try! ...not to push..but try to get double resistance....meaning if u got the chances...take AR n Single resist max it out...

just imagine AR (880) + SR (say fire 550) = OWE 1300++AR  notworthy.gif notworthy.gif ...ur imba monk already... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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but then as far as legendary items is concern, we won't get so many rolls. packing SR into it means we had to sacrifice the chance to roll other stats hmm.gif

Yes I am moving slowly to AR.
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post Dec 3 2012, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 3 2012, 03:18 PM)
I agree with cow that DR- foresight is a better choice compared with crippling wave.i.e maximizing bonus DPS.
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well his reason for crippling wave is that he feels more secure dealing with elites.

so there's also DR - keen eye smile.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 3 2012, 03:08 PM)
Which MP you wanna farm? high DPS... 480 ar... low ias... can you farm well in mp8? (no, i can't farm in mp8!)

Consider changing rune from Ascension to something else if you have high LoH/LS which allow you to recover enough HP in 3 seconds. Reply: Ok, will check this out.

Consider changing Crippling Wave to Deadly Reach+Foresight if you farm lower MP for more DPS. Reply: Thks, for the advice.

Consider dual wield for faster IAS (dont put your awesome fist of fury in inventory, make good use of it!) Reply: I'm still clueless as to harness its full potential without hurting my baby monk!, hehehe.
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Normal mobs were dispatched off in a matter of seconds while elites just takes 4x-5x longer times ...baby monk hardly dies in mp8 now so, intends to step up to mp9 and finally, mp10.

Certain replies (written in green text) are within your posts.

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 3 2012, 03:20 PM)
but then as far as legendary items is concern, we won't get so many rolls. packing SR into it means we had to sacrifice the chance to roll other statsĀ  hmm.gif

Yes I am moving slowly to AR.
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don worry..it was not compulsory..the idea was just for the high tier monk who donno what to upgrade anymore... ..

it was just a suggestion of...IF biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

i know its hard..

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Dec 3 2012, 03:36 PM)
i know its hard..
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i'm sticking on SR because beggar monk lol.

if you've watched kripp's recent vid, he also criticized that AR rolls higher max value which makes SR retarded (even for monks that are in the end game main reason as yuhhaur highlighted)
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 3 2012, 03:22 PM)
well his reason for crippling wave is that he feels more secure dealing with elites.

so there's also DR - keen eye smile.gif
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Actually, I did try Deadly Reach (DR) -Foresight in mp7 games earlier and dies quite often to OP elites but I should have tried DR -Keen Eye instead so will give it a focused stare tonight, hehehe.
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 3 2012, 03:47 PM)
Actually, I did try Deadly Reach (DR) -Foresight in mp7 games earlier and dies quite often to OP elites but I should have tried DR -Keen Eye instead so will give it a focused stare tonight, hehehe.
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foresight adds dps, nothing to do with survival

do take note the effect (while great, not as awesome as before while STI was 100% >.>) only last few seconds so you kinda need to cycle it a lot from FoT (you using combi strike anyways)

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