Yes, 1020 solve most of the problems for 808 in terms of camera issues. It's the price tag and lack of storage space is the main concern.

Price is not a main concern actually. But storage space has some issue yes.

What I did was to install Flickr apps that upload images automatically, frequent backup to the desktop, etc..

PRICE is the main concern, dude. That's why some 808PV owner would rather wait until L1020 price drop (or wait for the next PureView device, but I was concerned it wouldn't appeared this year).

It depends who is the buyer. If you check before L1020 release and during it's released, you will find the price is actually one of the MAJOR concern and what cause it's sales down. The spec is outdated, and no, please don't say Windows Phone don't need good specs, and yes, it can run well with low spec, but doesn't mean we cannot get better specs, moreover, for the price we're paying, you could get a very good spec smartphone. And no, it's not just the camera module alone, the 808PV has slightly bigger sensor and the technology was there since 808PV which is > 1 year ago since L1020 launch.

Lastly, they could price L1020 < 2K. It's really a matter of "decision". Many of these products, are selling way way above the cost price, and it's how they decide it price it. Usually, they do market survey and also get feedback from the consumers through various means (even reviewing forums, you may sometimes notice it, how they do it and to see the response).

L1020 capable of taking 38MP size photo, even support RAW (later), and FullHD video recording, a smartphone which focus on camera and video recording. IMO, it's quite a big issue. Imagine having out of storage space (apart form the battery) when you're on holiday taking family videos.
At least now, there is 2-in-1 thumb drive with USB OTG, which allows some convenience, but if not wrong, you need latest WP8.1.

Looking at the response for L1020, kinda worry they might stop this range, moreover, there're other Lumia with 20MP+ PureView. The Lumia 1520 launch just not long after L1020, it comes with better display, external storage option, 20MP PureView, and price much lower than L1020.

The reason I said 'price is not a concern' was that it was priced as highend smart phone device, not more than that. Its very unlikely to expect them to price it lower than, say, 930 for now, simply because apart from the usual smart phone features, it comes with higher end camera module. Much higher than the best of iphone 5S or Samsung S5 for instance.

So for that alone, I think the pricing is justifiable. Of course the lower the price the better it is for us consumer.

Right now with this 930, it seems that Microsoft no longer interested in 40MPix camera phone. This is quite obvious. If it were to come out, we will have to wait till the 930 fever to drop a bit. Only then it justify the emergence of lumia 1030 with such camera, with relatively similar price range to 930.

Waiting for price to drop means the emergence of successor, always the case.

Good point. Microsoft factor or not, I'm highly interested for the successor of L1020. At least a better processing image would sufficed.

This post has been edited by ulwan25: Aug 19 2014, 10:08 AM

Point noted. But price factor is controlled very much by them, how they want to price their high end, mid-range and low end. Moreover, they should also consider the price point for 808 PV and finally, most importantly, to capture the market. No point pricing it very high and ended up poor sale. I can only say, they "were" confident it will sell well and initially, yes, people were excited with it, and many people actually responded they're willing to "pay" high for it (all this, affects the decision).

Many companies, they hire or look at market survey results, showing charts, etc. If the results shows the respond from the survey, people are looking forward to it, many people willing to pay high for it. What will the decisions be?
Can you really just follow based on these "survey" results?
This happens in various other industries, not just mobile. This is one reason why, these companies may not really understand the consumer because they're looking at statistics and results based on "such" survey.

I remember when pureview 808 just came out, lots of people hold on to their pocket, saying that symbian is a dying platform. So would not buy the item as yet. But when 1020 appeared, here we were thinking that the price is just too high for a Windows phone. I guess we will always find excuse for not justifying the purchase. Which is understandable. As for me, I do have some problem with windows phone ecology. eg. I can't install my usual CCTV apps like in IOS. There is no Sunway Apps... etc.. But to be honest, it has all the necessary apps I usually need for communications, plus lots of photo /video taking apps. Which is much more and of better quality then the usual handphone hardwares of other built.

So some compromise need to be made. But having solve the problem of most apps I need as compared with Symbian, I guess this windows phone would be very much usable. Until someone out there built a better camera onto their Android device.. now I am waiting for iphone 6 to see if they have upgrade the camera module.

Seems like now even cannot share photo direct through phone to fb. Previous was flickr. Sad....

808 PureView price was surprising actually, less than RM1899 (if I remembered correctly). A high end Nokia Symbian usually would easily cost up to RM2499, moreover this is the first PureView with 41MP sensor, and the ONLY one if the market.
As for L1020, and previous Windows Phone, it's really the decision how they want to price it. They could price it lower or higher. Some may say the market price, but there's always someone or the first one to start increase or decrease the high end device price. If the price goes higher, and others will start to follow the trend. If they price it right, get more buyer, they may become more popular, capture more market. In technology, it's important to capture the customer first, because once the customer "switch" or "choose" another, you're less likely to re-capture this customer, ESPECIALLY, if the customer settled down on another platform and reluctant to change to another.
Look at now, Chinese phones are capturing the market and users, someone have to be the first to make the change, and the Chinese brand did it now.
Back then, it was "whole family" using Nokia, then it changed to "whole family" using Samsung. Now it's starting to change towards "whole family" using XiaoMi.
How Samsung rise, it's because of Nokia, majority of their users switch from Nokia. Nokia Windows Phone is already not doing well, and yet they still decide to price it high, when they "can" and "could've" price it much lower. Every mistake they make, they will loose more and more customers. Just imagine, how many Symbian users they have lost, and they lost many 808 PV users as well when they didnt' price it right. (just look at 808 PV users, how long they used the device and how loyal were they, and some that actually upgraded to L1020, and they were still sticking with it. Just imagine if they managed to capture and grab more of these 808 PV users to upgrade to L1020).

Yes, I agree on the part where most important it has all the necessary apps. Actually, once the person get used to it, it should be OK. The difference is when the person switch to another more common platform which used by many, then find that actually he/she was missing many things or missing out from other "circles", which he/she have no idea about in the past. After all, nowadays, almost everything about smartphones are apps.
This above really depends on individual and how he/she utilize his/her smartphone.

Last time i everytime take my photo using 808pv. I will upload to fb using 808 to the nokia 808 album created in the facebook. Now the service for uploading through 808 phone is no more. N my Nokia 808 album in the fb also gone. Wtf!! Did anyonr of u notice this?

No such problem for me. My 808 folder still intact in FB.

Its bak online again. Weird.

true that, im still on 808

anyway, how's 808 vs 1020 shot-shot speed? many says 1020 shot-shot speed is damn slow

Hi guys.....anyone selling their Nokia 808? Or else anybody know any shop selling this phone....

Anyhow....do PM me cause I'm interested to buy it.

Tq!

Still using my Nokia Pureview 808.....as my secondary phone and an awesome camera and video recorder!

yeah... on holidays when i take my 808 with me... i love bringing bck to show my pictures on the desktop... it's SUPERB...

but due to the android craze... i port my self to redmi note... but still kept 808pv as my main camera~ even taking video on 808 is still such a joy...

haha dropping by 2 say that i just found out this koleeq in my new company got yellow 808 and probably the only one with 808 while the rest are using either apple or samseng or some cheaper alternative

yellow 808? such variant exist? O.o

Could this be my 808 replacement ? Android finally



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