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post Jan 5 2015, 03:15 PM

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Hi, anyone doing Pharm in UQ australia?
I've got offer from UQ, Monash AUS, and Uni of Sydney and will commencing this February.
I'm having great dilemma in choosing between these universities.
Which one should I choose?
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post Jan 14 2015, 02:07 PM

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Anyone with experience in hospital pharmacy? My modules have been mainly about community pharmacy (UK based) so I don't exactly know what happens in the hospital as a pharmacist, especially in Malaysia.

I'm hearing that fresh grads (after qualification with the pharmacy board in Malaysia) who work in community pharmacies over here are getting like 7-8k a month but it's like 2k-3k in a hospital pharmacy. Plus, many working community pharmacists warned my classmates that if they like science and stuff, they should avoid community pharmacy in Malaysia because you hardly get to use the skills you've learned in uni over here. Comunity doesn't look appealing to me apart from the pay (if it's true) at this moment.

Wondering what it's like to be a hospital pharmacist and how the salary is like, anyone care to shed some light? Also, is a post grad degree in clinical pharmacy recommended if I plan to go down the hospital pharmacy path?

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post Jan 14 2015, 05:13 PM

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how is the pharmacy business now since now everything tightening belt, so medicine oso cut down?
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post Jan 14 2015, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Decky @ Jan 14 2015, 02:07 PM)
Anyone with experience in hospital pharmacy? My modules have been mainly about community pharmacy (UK based) so I don't exactly know what happens in the hospital as a pharmacist, especially in Malaysia.

I'm hearing that fresh grads (after qualification with the pharmacy board in Malaysia) who work in community pharmacies over here are getting like 7-8k a month but it's like 2k-3k in a hospital pharmacy. Plus, many working community pharmacists warned my classmates that if they like science and stuff, they should avoid community pharmacy in Malaysia because you hardly get to use the skills you've learned in uni over here. Comunity doesn't look appealing to me apart from the pay (if it's true) at this moment.

Wondering what it's like to be a hospital pharmacist and how the salary is like, anyone care to shed some light? Also, is a post grad degree in clinical pharmacy recommended if I plan to go down the hospital pharmacy path?
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what year are you in undergrad study? and where do you do study?
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post Jan 14 2015, 11:52 PM

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what year are you in undergrad study? and where do you do study?
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2nd year atm, doing a twinning program at taylors. will be heading to cardiff this summer.
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QUOTE(Decky @ Jan 14 2015, 11:52 PM)
2nd year atm, doing a twinning program at taylors. will be heading to cardiff this summer.
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ah cardiff. nice place. had quite a good time there. have fun!

regarding your question, i guess its better if u stay there and try to get into uk pre-reg pharmacy cos ure not bonded by any sponsor (ie JPA). You can choose between industry, clinical/hospital pharmacy and retail/community pharmacy based on ur interest and availability of placement. Try ask your tutor lecturer regarding ur career progression as they can give better insight on the pros and cons of what youre gonna choose.

Best of luck mate.

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post Jan 15 2015, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Decky @ Jan 14 2015, 02:07 PM)
Anyone with experience in hospital pharmacy? My modules have been mainly about community pharmacy (UK based) so I don't exactly know what happens in the hospital as a pharmacist, especially in Malaysia.

I'm hearing that fresh grads (after qualification with the pharmacy board in Malaysia) who work in community pharmacies over here are getting like 7-8k a month but it's like 2k-3k in a hospital pharmacy. Plus, many working community pharmacists warned my classmates that if they like science and stuff, they should avoid community pharmacy in Malaysia because you hardly get to use the skills you've learned in uni over here. Comunity doesn't look appealing to me apart from the pay (if it's true) at this moment.

Wondering what it's like to be a hospital pharmacist and how the salary is like, anyone care to shed some light? Also, is a post grad degree in clinical pharmacy recommended if I plan to go down the hospital pharmacy path?
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In Malaysia, govt hosp pharmacist is divided into nine stations; inpatient, outpatient, store, ward, therapeutic drug monitoring(tdm), total parenteral nutrition(TPN), cytotoxic drug recon(CDR), drug info service (dis) and manufacturing

After u finished ur study, u must acquire the license to practice pharmacy here.. In order to get that, u must complete one year of provisional training.. U can choose whether to serve the govt or enter the private sectors. If u choose to be in the gov sect, u will undergo training in all the afromentioned stations.

Starting salary in govt sect is around 3.5k-3.7k after deducting kwsp depending on ur hosp location, increments around rm250 per year. Ur grade will increase by time based.

Sorry for bad English.
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post Jan 15 2015, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(mr.redkill @ Jan 15 2015, 05:37 PM)
In Malaysia, govt hosp pharmacist is divided into nine stations; inpatient, outpatient, store, ward, therapeutic drug monitoring(tdm), total parenteral nutrition(TPN), cytotoxic drug recon(CDR), drug info service (dis) and manufacturing

After u finished ur study, u must acquire the license to practice pharmacy here.. In order to get that, u must complete one year of provisional training.. U can choose whether to serve the govt or enter the private sectors. If u choose to be in the gov sect, u will undergo training in all the afromentioned stations.

Starting salary in govt sect is around 3.5k-3.7k after deducting kwsp depending on ur hosp location, increments around rm250 per year. Ur grade will increase by time based.

Sorry for bad English.
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wow thanks that was informative!


Wah, RM250 a year is quite a minimal increment :/
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post Jan 25 2015, 12:34 AM

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is it possible to study pharmacy in the united states? smile.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 04:33 PM

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Hi hi.
I'm interest on the BPharm which if I really go for the course i would prefer to work in phamaceutical industry.
May I know is getting a job for pharmacist becomes did difficult as there is too many graduates.
Is it possible to work in UK if pursue the BPHARM in monash malaysia and transfer to monash aus in the third year? Or it's better to study the BPHARM in IMU and credit transfer to uk 's uni ?
Sorry for so many questions

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post Feb 7 2015, 11:29 AM

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Is a job as a pharmacist boring?
Do they face challenges and get satisfaction upon completing their job?
As a pharmacist, do u find that ur life is interesting?
Can u share with me ur experience? Thanks.

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post Feb 10 2015, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Decky @ Jan 14 2015, 02:07 PM)
Anyone with experience in hospital pharmacy? My modules have been mainly about community pharmacy (UK based) so I don't exactly know what happens in the hospital as a pharmacist, especially in Malaysia.

I'm hearing that fresh grads (after qualification with the pharmacy board in Malaysia) who work in community pharmacies over here are getting like 7-8k a month but it's like 2k-3k in a hospital pharmacy. Plus, many working community pharmacists warned my classmates that if they like science and stuff, they should avoid community pharmacy in Malaysia because you hardly get to use the skills you've learned in uni over here. Comunity doesn't look appealing to me apart from the pay (if it's true) at this moment.

Wondering what it's like to be a hospital pharmacist and how the salary is like, anyone care to shed some light? Also, is a post grad degree in clinical pharmacy recommended if I plan to go down the hospital pharmacy path?
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You will get to hospital based lectures soon in your 3rd or 4th year don't worry.. not sure where you got those figures though.. paywise hospital and community are about the same depending on your experience.. but as of now without dispensing separation there isn't much clinical stuff to do in community. post grad is optional in malaysia..

QUOTE(Decky @ Jan 15 2015, 05:43 PM)
wow thanks that was informative!
Wah, RM250 a year is quite a minimal increment :/
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so how much increment are you expecting? RM1000 per year?

QUOTE(blackangelxx @ Jan 30 2015, 04:33 PM)
Hi hi.
I'm interest on the BPharm which if I really go for the course i would prefer to work in phamaceutical industry.
May I know is getting a job for pharmacist becomes did difficult as there is too many graduates.
Is it possible to work in UK if pursue the BPHARM in monash malaysia and transfer to monash aus in the third year? Or it's better to study the BPHARM in IMU and credit transfer to uk 's uni ?
Sorry for so many questions
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it may be more difficult for you if you don't work harder on improving your english.


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post Feb 10 2015, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Feb 10 2015, 12:12 PM)
You will get to hospital based lectures soon in your 3rd or 4th year don't worry.. not sure where you got those figures though.. paywise hospital and community are about the same depending on your experience.. but as of now without dispensing separation there isn't much clinical stuff to do in community. post grad is optional in malaysia.. 
so how much increment are you expecting? RM1000 per year?
it may be more difficult for you if you don't work harder on improving your english.
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Hm, I got the figures from a few people who personally knows a working community pharmacist and a few others who have interned at popular chain pharmacies over here. Multiple sources from different places. AFAIK, I always thought it was 3k starting, but those sources might be outdated since they were based off websites like doctorjob


Therefore, if the pay increment is only 250 a year for a clinical pharmacist, then it'll take like 10 years to reach the pay of a fresh grad community pharmacist (if the figures that I got is true).



I'll be interning soon, so maybe I'll be able to double check with another community pharmacist.
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post Feb 10 2015, 03:31 PM

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Err. ... any options for study pharmacy abroad except Australia ?? anybody did experience it ??
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QUOTE(Decky @ Feb 10 2015, 03:03 PM)
Hm, I got the figures from a few people who personally knows a working community pharmacist and a few others who  have interned at popular chain pharmacies over here. Multiple sources from different places. AFAIK, I always thought it was 3k starting, but those sources might be outdated since they were based off websites like doctorjob
Therefore, if the pay increment is only 250 a year for a clinical pharmacist, then it'll take like 10 years to reach the pay of a fresh grad community pharmacist (if the figures that I got is true).
I'll be interning soon, so maybe I'll be able to double check with another community pharmacist.
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in government hospitals it's 4k starting... then every year there will be increments.. after a few years you will get automatic promotion and the increment will be more...

however if you choose to do your pre-reg in the private settings (community pharmacy/private hospital) its less than 3k but once you get your licence it will probably double up.. in malaysia there's no incentive becoming a clinical pharmacist, at least in terms of monetary wise...

your figures are incredibly outdated.. earning 7-8k per month as fresh grad in a community pharmacy was like 8-10 years back with an acute shortage of pharmacists..
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QUOTE(zstan @ Feb 10 2015, 12:12 PM)
You will get to hospital based lectures soon in your 3rd or 4th year don't worry.. not sure where you got those figures though.. paywise hospital and community are about the same depending on your experience.. but as of now without dispensing separation there isn't much clinical stuff to do in community. post grad is optional in malaysia.. 
so how much increment are you expecting? RM1000 per year?
it may be more difficult for you if you don't work harder on improving your english.
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Hahahh💪 working hard in process
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post Feb 10 2015, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Feb 10 2015, 05:55 PM)
in government hospitals it's 4k starting... then every year there will be increments.. after a few years you will get automatic promotion and the increment will be more...

however if you choose to do your pre-reg in the private settings (community pharmacy/private hospital) its less than 3k but once you get your licence it will probably double up.. in malaysia there's no incentive becoming a clinical pharmacist, at least in terms of monetary wise...

your figures are incredibly outdated.. earning 7-8k per month as fresh grad in a community pharmacy was like 8-10 years back with an acute shortage of pharmacists..
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Mm I see. I have a decision to make because I will (90%) have a choice to work in Aussie after I graduate, but I really don't mind taking a pay cut to come home because I love it here. However, I need to look at how big the cut is before I make up my mind.
Thanks for the info though.


Idk, my friend worked at her aunt's newly opened pharmacy and she was telling me how her aunt was finding it hard to find a pharmacist because fresh grads were asking for 6-7k ish since they said Watsons/Caring probably paid that much. They could be lying though.
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QUOTE(Decky @ Feb 10 2015, 08:16 PM)
Mm I see. I have a decision to make because I will (90%) have a choice to work in Aussie after I graduate, but I really don't mind taking a pay cut to come home because I love it here. However, I need to look at how big the cut is before I make up my mind.
Thanks for the info though.
Idk, my friend worked at her aunt's newly opened pharmacy and she was telling me how her aunt was finding it hard to find a pharmacist because fresh grads were asking for 6-7k ish since they said Watsons/Caring probably paid that much. They could be lying though.
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lol fresh grad as a pharmacist in Aussie really sucks now apart from the money. extremely competitive for internship places. It will definitely be 3 times the cut. dollar to dollar we are earning to same. my friend just came back from Sydney recently after finishing the internship. having said that, malaysia isn't any better with too many pharmacy graduates and no dispensing separation.

fresh grad? u sure? yeah around 6-7k. but that's after u get your poison A licence. it's already a huge pay cut nowadays considering you can get 8-9k long long time ago.
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QUOTE(Decky @ Feb 10 2015, 08:16 PM)
Mm I see. I have a decision to make because I will (90%) have a choice to work in Aussie after I graduate, but I really don't mind taking a pay cut to come home because I love it here. However, I need to look at how big the cut is before I make up my mind.
Thanks for the info though.
Idk, my friend worked at her aunt's newly opened pharmacy and she was telling me how her aunt was finding it hard to find a pharmacist because fresh grads were asking for 6-7k ish since they said Watsons/Caring probably paid that much. They could be lying though.
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Yes,it's true, chain pharmacy offering around 6-7k ish for community pharmacy, can gain more if you are willing to do overtime.
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Hi, I'm currently an A-Level student who will be taking A2 this coming June. I just want to ask, if I study the MPharm course at University of Nottingham (2+2), will the certificate be the same as those who study directly 4 years at University of Nottingham? I hope to register as a Pharmacist in Singapore and University of Nottingham is in their list of international accredited universities. But I'm wondering if this only applies to UK citizens, or anyone holding the certificate. Thanks in advance guys! biggrin.gif

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