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Decky
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Nov 2 2012, 06:34 PM
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Hi there.
A question from an a levels student really interested in doing pharmacy...
I have no interest in doing industrial work or etc., since I like the idea of using my knowledge to assist others while working with people.
But I'm more of an analytical person than a person who can memorize things really well.
So my question is: For a hospital/retail pharmacist, what do you all think about the ratio of memory work to analytical skills required?
50:50?
Also, I suck horribly at memorizing formulas for trigonometric functions and how to integrate them etc. (B/c I barely understand trigo), but I am good in grasping stuff related to biology (especially stuff like evolution and natural selection where a bigger picture is involved). Do I need trigo skills when doing pharmacy?
Thanks (sorry if some of the questions are rather stupid ): )
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Decky
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Nov 7 2012, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(wyatt615 @ Nov 6 2012, 06:52 PM) Hi, I'm a final year student in Uni of Nottingham, UK. It's true that you will need to memorise tons of things like physiology and pharmacology etc, but at the same time, you will be trained to analyse situations by considering factors like signs & symptoms, past medication history etc and decide which drug or what kind of treatment is needed for a particular patient. The latter part is what I find most interesting and challenging. About calculation, well, you don't have to worry about integration, differentiation and those complicated A-level Math topics, basically just simple chemistry calculations which I believe you've already learnt in A-level will be involved. Of course, there're some other slightly more complicated formulations in courses/subjects like spectrometry, drug delivery etc etc, but I believe it won't be a major problem, so don't worry ya Hope this help  Thanks everyone. I hope I'm fit for it then, memorizing bio seems to be fine for me. Chemistry calculations are so far so good I guess, but I'd prefer memorizing over calculating lol.
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Decky
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Mar 14 2013, 06:06 PM
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@Farmer_C
Do you mind if I ask you what the organic compound you have as your dp is called?
Anyway, anyone doing MPharm at Taylor's here? Twinning to Cardiff sounds impressive. UNMC still my current choice though
This post has been edited by Decky: Mar 14 2013, 06:09 PM
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Decky
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Mar 14 2013, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(Farmer_C @ Mar 14 2013, 07:02 PM) Oh it's adenosine, something close to my heart because my research last year and PhD in the next 3 years involves this molecule. Do you know much about adenosine? I'm only an A level student lol. All I know about adenosine is that adenosine triphosphate = ATP = energy!!
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Decky
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Mar 14 2013, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(Farmer_C @ Mar 14 2013, 07:15 PM) Woops, I thought you were a postgraduate student from the sound of your previous post. Yeah, ATP is just adenosine with 3 phosphate groups.  Organic chem be my favorite so far lol. Inorganic chem is boring as hell. Anyway, do you have any idea if the news that Monash malaysia is now offering a twinning course for BPharm?
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Decky
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Apr 16 2013, 10:58 PM
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Got shortlisted for MPharm interview. Any ideas of how I should prepare?
The interview is smack in the middle of my finals. Not the best of timings but since my syllabus covers organic nitrogen compounds, arenes, some drugs, and since I'm a bio student I "should" know quite abit about amino acids and protein synthesis as well.
Anything I should read up on other than academic stuff?
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Decky
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May 14 2013, 07:05 PM
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So I just got news that my interview offer from Notts was an error as they had too many applicants so I had to be rejected despite good forecast results.
If I don't want to take a gap year, should I opt for IMU or Monash or Taylors?
If I go to Taylors or IMU I plan to take the 2+2 program.
I'm pretty sure I can meet their entry requirements, just that I'm rather bummed that my first choice is off the list if I don't plan to take a gap year now.
Will it make a difference in terms of job opportunities depending on which Uni I choose? Let's say I get a degree from Strathclyde via my twinning program. Will an employer prefer a Nottingham degree over mine? Does it work that way?
Taylors -> Cardiff seems like a decent option since Cardiff is quite consistently high ranked. But I'm worried about the 2 years in Taylors. I've heard nothing about people taking Pharmacy there!
This post has been edited by Decky: May 14 2013, 07:16 PM
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Decky
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May 15 2013, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(wyatt615 @ May 15 2013, 02:40 AM) no, it doesn't work that way, i'm in my final year in Notts, many of my friends from Stratchclyde (twinning) had managed to secure pre-registration positions in both community and hospital settings, so no worries  What does your Strathclyde twinning friends have to say about the overall course? I read in an old thread in LYN that IMU's MPharm 2+2 is merely a moneybag. Strathclyde's name is used to attract students while the teaching quality in IMU apparently is really bad and when students reach Strathclyde, they suffer. :/
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Decky
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Jun 12 2013, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(voyage23 @ Jun 11 2013, 11:42 PM) Interesting thread. Am a newly graduate from IMU Bpharm. Would be happy to answer any questions!  IS it true that you have to wear formal wear to class every single day? lol. I'm in a terrible dilemma to choose between Taylors MPharm or IMU's Mpharm. After trying hard to reach some people via mutual friends, the Taylor's students apparently think their lecturers to be good. I'd prefer Cardiff over Strathclyde, but IMU is more established. I'm only afraid that Taylor's program might shut down half way and I waste alot of money and time. Can that even happen?
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Decky
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Jun 13 2013, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(pianogirl @ Jun 13 2013, 12:28 AM) Hi there.  I applied to Nottingham Mpharm 2013 intake, however I was not shortlisted for the course. Will you mind to tell me which pre-u course you did and what are your grades? I did Edexcel A level (3A and 1B) I applied as well. I think we got rejected not because of our grades, but (I emailed the person in charge requesting for some "feedback"), apparently they're VERY VERY full. My friend applied a little earlier than me. She got into the waiting list. So it's either her personal statement was amazing or she applied just in the nick of time. (I applied really late btw) The lecturers response to my email was that the course is really full so they really couldn't take in anyone. So I highly doubt that it's because of your results!
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Decky
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Jun 13 2013, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(pianogirl @ Jun 13 2013, 01:19 AM) I remembered that I submitted my application on 31st of March. How about your friend? I was told that Nottingham accepted 90 students for 2013 intake. I was shocked at first when I knew that I was not shortlisted because my friend who got the same results as me got in for MPharm 2012 in Nottingham. Never expect that their entry requirement is that high. I thought they will look at the best 3 subjects in A level : ( What on earth?! I applied in I think late May? My friend applied around the same time too. We have probably the same A levels forecast results (either 4A's or 3A 1B. College wont reveal)
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Decky
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Jun 13 2013, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 13 2013, 12:29 PM) i think your main issue is that you applied with your forecast results and not the actual results. No no, our actual results are only out in august this year. So we were supposed to apply with forecast earlier to get our conditional offers. I'm shocked because I think pianogirl used her actual results to apply and even then she was rejected. Notts requirement is at most AAB. for AAA to be rejected... I'm starting to think that personal statement plays a big role now lol
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Decky
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Jun 14 2013, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 14 2013, 06:54 AM) Well with all the competition nowadays nobody really looks at forecast results anymore unless they are lack in students. AAA is actually not quite great anymore since so many people are getting straight As as well so it's not a surprise there. :/ But that's rather unfair to the students doing A levels with the traditional route isn't it? We get our results in august and expect to enter uni in september. If they don't accept forecast results, that would mean we have to take a gap year which is not good for some of us! Anyway I met another person at dinner yesterday from Taylor's MPharm. She was like "Oh you wanna do MPharm at Taylors? Taylors suck though. IMU too" EMOOO But mainly their complaints are about their dean who imposes her Islamic beliefs on the whole course people apparently
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Decky
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Jun 14 2013, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 14 2013, 03:02 PM) lol how is this unfair? it's just business and security. why take up students with forecast results when there are already students with full results. nothing wrong with a gap year though if you really want to enter a good uni. i did that last time  But considering how we're doing pharmacy, a gap year would mean we come out and work when we're 26/27? True though, it's business and security. I kinda regret taking A levels if I wasn't trying to go UK straight. But it's prepared well.
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Decky
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Jun 15 2013, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 15 2013, 11:17 AM) What's wrong with that? You'd probably look more mature and Give your patients more confidence in you rather looking like some fresh kid. You are not alone  If you a're talking about better in terms of rankings Queensland would be thr best. Otherwise you can consider which place suits you better. UK does ooffer you more opportunities to go to more countries to travel though. Read first page. Ptptn is easiest to get. 80k in total. Well my only worry is that with the pay we're getting here, if we decide to work as a hospital/community pharmacist, we'd probably be only able to afford a house at like 31 32 ish? And get married at 33ish.. Have kids at 35? haha maybe I overthinking
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Decky
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Jun 15 2013, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 15 2013, 12:58 PM) Lol. If your aim is to make big bucks within 5 years after graduation then pharmacy is probably the wrong course for you Whats wrong with getting a house after 30 anyway? Dont have to follow the trend and craze of the society. I actually want to get married earlier, so have to get a house earlier too! Not exactly big bucks lah, just "enough" to buy a cheap apartment or cheap condo that I can survive in. But then again, one year doesn't seem like much. I was actually advised against a gap year primarily because in one year I might lose alot of the knowledge I've gained from A levels and suffer in the first year of uni. Of course, that can be prevented if I self study and do internships at pharmacies etc.
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Decky
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Jun 15 2013, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(henghuang @ Jun 15 2013, 01:03 PM) Why not do accounting in the first place? The money is  No wei, I chose pharmacy because it's the best of both worlds for me in getting money and doing what I have a passion for. Both my parents are accountants. Can't imagine myself being one!
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Decky
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Jun 15 2013, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(henghuang @ Jun 15 2013, 01:09 PM) doctors earn more wei, pharmacist don't have prescription rights yet. I think have to wait for many years still not yet confirm...You guy or girl? Guy of course. Well even without prescription rights, I hear that the pay is still not "bad" (not as bad as a high school teachers salary). Of course I considered medicine, but since it's super overpopulated and nearly everyone wants to specialize, it's risky. Especially since I come from a middle-class (or slightly above avg) family that will probably suffer to finance me studying overseas for it since they have to support my sibling as well! Plus, I really don't think I'm the type of person who can perform a surgery without feeling weird or anything! A friend of mine actually got to intern at a local hospital in the middle of his a levels and he was talking about how he got to help out at the E&E department of the hospital and actually had people he was working on die on him. He didn't show any emotion and was all smiles. I don't think I would've been very excited about that fact lol.
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Decky
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Jun 15 2013, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(Farmer_C @ Jun 15 2013, 01:17 PM) If you live somewhere with less competition, opening your own pharmacy is the best way to make monies. Otherwise, I guess you should just work hard to collect salary and promotions  Just never forget why you're doing this, because at the end of the day, passion is more important than big bucks. Fortunately, pharmacy earns you decent money too  Exactly haha. I think one perk about planning to do pharmacy is that when people ask me what I want to do in the future, I'd say "I'm gonna be a drug dealer!"
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Decky
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Jul 26 2013, 03:47 PM
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Edit: woops uhh, calculation error.
They are both priced around the same price!
Anyhow, why does IMU's 2+2 program start only in January?
This post has been edited by Decky: Jul 26 2013, 04:20 PM
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