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TSzstan
post Mar 31 2013, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(focustime @ Mar 31 2013, 11:22 PM)
Hi

I would like to know, will I be able to pursue a degree in pharmacy if I didn't take Biology for SPM and I'm also planning on taking matriculation or Asasi Sains Fizikal for the pre-u.

Just to be clear, I was one those kids who didn't really know what they're doing when applying for their SPM subjects :T

But now I know.... So help me sad.gif
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Nope. You must take all 3 sciences if you plan to take matriculation. or asasi sains. its stated in the first post. and no private college will accept you to do Pre-U biology since you do not have SPM biology.
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post Apr 1 2013, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 31 2013, 11:24 PM)
Nope. You must take all 3 sciences if you plan to take matriculation. or asasi sains. its stated in the first post. and no private college will accept you to do Pre-U biology since you do not have SPM biology.
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Oh, I see. But is it possible if I take Asasi Sains Fizikal and after finishing that, I change to a degree in pharmacy? hmm.gif
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post Apr 2 2013, 12:32 AM

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if you are working in a hospital, then dispensing rights will not be your concern anyway. no?


i guess the bigger question is - where is our profession heading as a whole?

UK are utilizing pharmacists and nurses as supplementary prescribers (supplementary prescribing) to tackle and improve patients' access to medicines but pharmacists in malaysia are suppose to be content with just being able to dispense in the hospital pharmacy? Even nurses are prescribing out there.. I believe the training pharmacists received in Malaysia is not inferior compared to other bpharm program out there.

Ultimately, dispensing right would help to push for more community pharmacists creating jobs and put to use our skills and knowledge acquired during bpharm. Hopefully we pharmacists, could focus on more on helping the patients rather than selling shampoos and toilet papers.


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QUOTE(focustime @ Apr 1 2013, 06:49 AM)
Oh, I see. But is it possible if I take Asasi Sains Fizikal and after finishing that, I change to a degree in pharmacy?  hmm.gif
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i don't think you can enter asasi sains if you don't have 3 sciences in your SPM. but you can have a try.
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post Apr 2 2013, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Apr 2 2013, 10:32 AM)
i don't think you can enter asasi sains if you don't have 3 sciences in your SPM. but you can have a try.
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Oh, I can apply for asasi sains fizikal because it doesn't have biology in it. Only physics and chemistry.

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post Apr 2 2013, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(focustime @ Apr 2 2013, 09:00 PM)
Oh, I can apply for asasi sains fizikal because it doesn't have biology in it. Only physics and chemistry.

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You should just do form 6/a levels/sam and take biology.. at least that's what I'm planning to do. hmm.gif

Because I've read from one of the post that there's someone who managed to take biology in sam without taking biology as a subject in SPM.
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QUOTE(focustime @ Apr 2 2013, 09:00 PM)
Oh, I can apply for asasi sains fizikal because it doesn't have biology in it. Only physics and chemistry.

I really want to be a pharmacist  icon_question.gif
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If you don't have biology for SPM and foundation it's even impossible to get into a Pharmacy course in Malaysia... you may try to get into some indonesian/russian/middle eastern universities which do not care but when you come back to Malaysia to work you might just not get a job.. its a big risk but no doubt you can go ahead and try. It's just a pity that you did not receive better advises after your PMR.

QUOTE(yellowpika @ Apr 2 2013, 10:54 PM)
You should just do form 6/a levels/sam and take biology.. at least that's what I'm planning to do. hmm.gif

Because I've read from one of the post that there's someone who managed to take biology in sam without taking biology as a subject in SPM.
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getting into Pre-U is one thing... getting into a pharmacy degree is another thing... and whether the government recognises your degree to allow you to get registered is also another thing... good luck smile.gif
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In the Malaysian hospital setting, do pharmacists have the opportunity to 'specialise' eg. become cardiology pharmacists/infectious diseases pharmacists/ICU pharmacists/oncology pharmacists etc. ?
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QUOTE(Farmer_C @ Apr 3 2013, 06:04 PM)
In the Malaysian hospital setting, do pharmacists have the opportunity to 'specialise' eg. become cardiology pharmacists/infectious diseases pharmacists/ICU pharmacists/oncology pharmacists etc. ?
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Yes they do. There are papers you can sit for to boost your credentials but this doesn't translate into better pay though.
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QUOTE(Farmer_C @ Apr 3 2013, 06:04 PM)
In the Malaysian hospital setting, do pharmacists have the opportunity to 'specialise' eg. become cardiology pharmacists/infectious diseases pharmacists/ICU pharmacists/oncology pharmacists etc. ?
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You can take BCPS examination but Lembaga Farmasi doesn't give extra recognition to this. Sadly at the moment there isn't real certified 'specialist pharmacist' in Malaysia.
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I'm gonna assume that pharmacists do patrol the wards and check drug charts in Malaysia... do pharmacists stay and 'specialise' in a certain ward on request (perhaps after they've done their rotations in every ward), meaning specialising without exams but through experience?

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QUOTE(Farmer_C @ Apr 5 2013, 03:46 PM)
I'm gonna assume that pharmacists do patrol the wards and check drug charts in Malaysia... do pharmacists stay and 'specialise' in a certain ward on request (perhaps after they've done their rotations in every ward), meaning specialising without exams but through experience?
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yes. that's why it's not mandatory to have a masters in clinical pharmacy/equivalent qualifications to be appointed as a clinical pharmacist. you can get there with enough years of experience.

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post Apr 8 2013, 02:00 AM

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i find the following blog post to be very informative especially for people with little to no idea of the prospect of a bpharm in recent years.

http://pagalavan.com/2013/02/26/the-pharmacists-dilemma/


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Dear sir, I am a bit confused. Do we need more pharmacists now, or we simply have a lot of them already? I was told pharmacists are in demand.

Pagalavan Letchumanan
You are still needed but not in government sector


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hi there,

a good article indeed. as a pharmacist, i am also worried of the current trend. first, in terms of training, how well exposed will these new pharmacists be compared to their hospital counterpart. one may say that if a student is interested to work in retail, why place him in a hospital setting. but i still believe the exposure to things like adverse reactions, emergency treatments, conditions to watch out for, CPDs and etc are what makes them better and prepared before being put in any field of their interest.

secondly, the move actually highlights the failure of the current education system to uphold quality. we, Malaysia, have always been and will always be a country which believes in Quantity rather than Quality. that is the reason university intakes increase students from 3rd world nations to boost ranking, rather than making education here as par as those in developed nations. we want our students to be a big fish in a small pond.



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Heyyooo people! I'm a spm 2012 leaver and I want to do pharmacy. I wanna ask is it wise to take up stpm as my pre-u studies? What subjects should I take? And recommend me some reputable unis that have pharmacy courses ? Looking forward to see some helpful reply! smile.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(..lampz @ Apr 16 2013, 01:06 AM)
Heyyooo people! I'm a spm 2012 leaver and I want to do pharmacy. I wanna ask is it wise to take up stpm as my pre-u studies? What subjects should I take? And recommend me some reputable unis that have pharmacy courses ? Looking forward to see some helpful reply! smile.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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UCSI University or IMU. You can go for the Foundation in Science at UCSI University and then into their Pharmacy programme or take the Foundation in Science at KBU International College and then into IMU. KBU's Foundation in Science is a partnership with IMU. Alternatively you can go for the A-Levels. You take Chemistry, Biology and Maths or Physics.
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Is it a MUST for me to take Biology for my pre-u? And can I apply to IMU or Monash using forecast results? From what I checked their intake dates are Jan(MPharm) and Feb (BPharm) respectively.

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QUOTE(..lampz @ Apr 16 2013, 05:28 PM)
Is it a MUST for me to take Biology for my pre-u? And can I apply to IMU or Monash using forecast results? From what I checked their intake dates are Jan(MPharm) and Feb (BPharm) respectively.
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its not a requirement but it will be helpful.. not sure about IMU but Monash wont accept forecast results. more info can be found on page 1
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Got shortlisted for MPharm interview. Any ideas of how I should prepare?

The interview is smack in the middle of my finals. Not the best of timings but since my syllabus covers organic nitrogen compounds, arenes, some drugs, and since I'm a bio student I "should" know quite abit about amino acids and protein synthesis as well.

Anything I should read up on other than academic stuff?
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QUOTE(Decky @ Apr 16 2013, 10:58 PM)
Got shortlisted for MPharm interview. Any ideas of how I should prepare?

The interview is smack in the middle of my finals. Not the best of timings but since my syllabus covers organic nitrogen compounds, arenes, some drugs, and since I'm a bio student I "should" know quite abit about amino acids and protein synthesis as well.

Anything I should read up on other than academic stuff?
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probably think about why you want to be a pharmacist i guess. dont think they will ask much academic related stuff
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Hi guys, I'll be going to stpm next month. Will pharmacist be real saturated by the year of 2020? From what I counted ( duration of stpm, Bpharm course, and gov service), I think I’ll be graduating around that year. So any ideas? Is there a possibility that I will be jobless upon graduating?


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