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prophetjul
post Mar 26 2013, 11:20 AM

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Unfortunately for msian based Pharmacists, doctors are allowed to dispense medicines.................
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post Mar 26 2013, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(alyaakhairudin @ Mar 26 2013, 09:35 AM)
Oh really? Wow that's going to be hard I guess. And if I were to be back to Malaysia eventhough I worked there, it will be hard right... Thank you so much for the information!
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I think you should worry more about whether can you master university level Japanese and able to graduate successfully before worrying about whether you can cope with the working environment back in Malaysia.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 26 2013, 11:20 AM)
Unfortunately for msian based Pharmacists, doctors are allowed to dispense medicines.................
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So what's your point?
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post Mar 26 2013, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 26 2013, 02:17 PM)

So what's your point?
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Meaning less scope or opportunities for pharmacists since doctors are allowed to dispense.
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post Mar 26 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 26 2013, 02:20 PM)
Meaning less scope or opportunities for pharmacists since doctors are allowed to dispense.
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Oh really? biggrin.gif so what are the scopes of the pharmacist that you know of? Besides dispensing.
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post Mar 26 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 26 2013, 03:07 PM)
Oh really? biggrin.gif so what are the scopes of the pharmacist that you know of? Besides dispensing.
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Isnt it Obvious that when one scope has been assumed by some other profession, your opportunities is lessen
by it? biggrin.gif

YOU WROTE:

A doctor will diagnose(a disease) and prescribe medicine for patients. A pharmacist dispenses medicine to patients.


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diagnose is the doctor telling you what illness you have such as cough and fever.

prescribing is the part where the doctor write something like antibiotic after diagnosed your condition so that the nurse or what-so-ever know what medicine to pack for you.

dispense is the part where you get your medication as prescribed by doctor.

in case you are wondering why pharmacist is not involved or maybe i missed out, doctors in malaysia get to sell medicine. Therefore they are dispensing and not pharmacist.


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 26 2013, 03:11 PM)
Isnt it Obvious that when one scope has been assumed by some other profession, your opportunities is lessen
by it?    biggrin.gif

YOU WROTE:

A doctor will diagnose(a disease) and prescribe medicine for patients. A pharmacist dispenses medicine to patients.
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true. but there are so many other sectors that a pharmacist can venture into besides dispensing.
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post Mar 27 2013, 11:16 PM

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ermm.guys.i need some help here.i'm kind of interested in taking pharmacy.just a few questions to ask.hope you guys can answer sweat.gif oh and btw i'm 2012 SPM leaver
1. any idea of scholarships that i can apply?
2. if possible i want to attend foundation before pursuing the bachelor. is there any oversea university that offer pharmacy course to malaysians students? cause nowadays it's hard to find scholarship that send students with pharmacy course rclxub.gif
thanks in advance notworthy.gif
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post Mar 28 2013, 12:11 AM

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it is true a bpharm brings a lot of opportunities other than the conventional dispensing role eg. working for a pharmaceutical company, involve in creating government health policies, consultant pharmacist, but realistically, most graduates end up being in a hospital or community pharmacy. Thus, i dont see the point of arguing otherwise.

@prophetjul
are you thinking about doing a bpharm?
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post Mar 28 2013, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(jerk @ Mar 28 2013, 12:11 AM)
it is true a bpharm brings a lot of opportunities other than the conventional dispensing role eg. working for a pharmaceutical company, involve in creating government health policies, consultant pharmacist, but realistically, most graduates end up being in a hospital or community pharmacy. Thus, i dont see the point of arguing otherwise.

@prophetjul
are you thinking about doing a bpharm?
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i'm curious abt the reason... salary is higher if u work in hospital /community pharm.? or it's because it wont be so boring ? sweat.gif
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I'm having my SPM this year and I'm planning to take on Pharmacy or PHarmacology biggrin.gif

I really love Chemistry! and Biology!

If it's possible, I would like to study Pharmacy at Kyoto, and live there.

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QUOTE(assymessy @ Mar 28 2013, 07:51 PM)
I'm having my SPM this year and I'm planning to take on Pharmacy or PHarmacology biggrin.gif

I really love Chemistry! and Biology!

If it's possible, I would like to study Pharmacy at Kyoto, and live there.
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Good for you! Coming from a background of both pharmacy and pharmacology, I can tell you the Japanese are definitely very good at pharmacology. Keep up the good work and you can realise your dream wink.gif
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QUOTE(Farmer_C @ Mar 28 2013, 08:05 PM)
Good for you! Coming from a background of both pharmacy and pharmacology, I can tell you the Japanese are definitely very good at pharmacology. Keep up the good work and you can realise your dream wink.gif
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Waaaa...

I really hope I can further my studies in Pharmacy or Pharmacology in Kyoto Univ.

For now what should I do ? biggrin.gif
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post Mar 29 2013, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(sheet78 @ Mar 27 2013, 11:16 PM)
ermm.guys.i need some help here.i'm kind of interested in taking pharmacy.just a few questions to ask.hope you guys can answer  sweat.gif oh and btw i'm 2012 SPM leaver
1. any idea of scholarships that i can apply?
2. if possible i want to attend foundation before pursuing the bachelor. is there any oversea university that offer pharmacy course to malaysians students? cause nowadays it's hard to find scholarship that send students with pharmacy course  rclxub.gif
thanks in advance notworthy.gif
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1.only feasible scholarships would be JPA
2. most probably no. foundation courses are usually not recognised overseas

QUOTE(jerk @ Mar 28 2013, 12:11 AM)
it is true a bpharm brings a lot of opportunities other than the conventional dispensing role eg. working for a pharmaceutical company, involve in creating government health policies, consultant pharmacist, but realistically, most graduates end up being in a hospital or community pharmacy. Thus, i dont see the point of arguing otherwise.

@prophetjul
are you thinking about doing a bpharm?
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if you are working in a hospital, then dispensing rights will not be your concern anyway. no?

QUOTE(assymessy @ Mar 28 2013, 11:51 PM)
Waaaa...

I really hope I can further my studies in Pharmacy or Pharmacology in Kyoto Univ.

For now what should I do  ? biggrin.gif
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master your japanese? if that is really your intention
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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 29 2013, 12:38 AM)
1.only feasible scholarships would be JPA
2. most probably no. foundation courses are usually not recognised overseas
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oh i see.thanks!
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post Mar 31 2013, 07:27 PM

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So, Japan is the right place to study pharmacology? How and why so? I always thought that western countries are better in medical science.

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what did you mean by "most probably no foundation courses are usually not recognised by overseas"? Speaking about local foundation college, as in KPM Matriculation, the programmes are recognized by a number of UK's universities (for instance, Bristol and Reading). You could apply via UCAS. For university-based foundation (UiTM Puncak Alam, Tamhidi USIM, Asasi UIA), I don't know. Sorry.

Planning for oversea?
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@VilaFrantez

The Japanese have a strong presence in high-impact journals in the field of medicine, biomedicine, pharmacology, biology, physiology etc. They are also one of the world leaders in stem cell research. This is not to say that they are better than the USA or Australia however. They're strong in research but I didn't say that Japan is necessarily a good place to study pharmacology at the undergraduate level. They do however have a university (University of Tokyo) very highly ranked in the field of pharmacy and pharmacology.
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post Mar 31 2013, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(VilaFrantez @ Mar 31 2013, 07:27 PM)
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So, Japan is the right place to study pharmacology? How and why so? I always thought that western countries are better in medical science.

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what did you mean by "most probably no foundation courses are usually not recognised by overseas"? Speaking about local foundation college, as in KPM Matriculation, the programmes are recognized by a number of UK's universities (for instance, Bristol and Reading). You could apply via UCAS. For university-based foundation (UiTM Puncak Alam, Tamhidi USIM, Asasi UIA), I don't know. Sorry.

Planning for oversea?
= For a safe route, take A-level. To add the sense of being an extremist? Enter IB.

\^0^/

p/s: correct me if I'm wrong. I'm trying to be excellent with everyone smile.gif
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For a pharmacy degree I'm pretty sure it's not accepted. It's just not going to prepare you well enough for the actual degree. Correct me if i'm wrong too.
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post Mar 31 2013, 09:32 PM

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oh I see. it is good to know about that. based on what I've looked at Times 500 Universities Ranking, universities at the west coast US ranked the top for Life Science(California Institute of Tecnology, Stanford, UC). but, again, it is good to know that one of the Asian countries tops the list.

fyi, I'm undergoing my foundation year at INTEC and (hopefully) I'm a rising sophomore at the States in 2014 in biotechnology, specializing in pharmacology soon. pray for me, and I think I might contact you if I need certain specific information.

note: is Pharmacy considered as a branch of Life Science? I looked at Wikipedia, and there's no Pharmacy in the list. Pharmacology is.

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yeah, nonetheless I feel the same too. secure a place in A-level first, ace the IELTS and get the good grades do sound better if someone is looking to study pharmacy at UK.

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@ VilaFrantez

Although we should never read too much into higher education rankings by any organisation, I believe this can serve as a rough guide as to who are the major players in the field of pharmacy and pharmacology:

http://www.topuniversities.com/courses/pha...cy-pharmacology
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post Mar 31 2013, 11:22 PM

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Hi

I would like to know, will I be able to pursue a degree in pharmacy if I didn't take Biology for SPM and I'm also planning on taking matriculation or Asasi Sains Fizikal for the pre-u.

Just to be clear, I was one those kids who didn't really know what they're doing when applying for their SPM subjects :T

But now I know.... So help me sad.gif

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