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TSprophetjul
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Aug 28 2015, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 28 2015, 05:10 PM) If you are able to recognise the bounces, you will make a higher yield, collect more DPU at lower prices and increase your margin-of-safety in the counters that you hold. Thats the reason we have to average in. we wont catch the bottom. So instead of being emotional, better set the yardstick on the numbers
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Hansel
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Aug 28 2015, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 28 2015, 05:12 PM) Thats the reason we have to average in. we wont catch the bottom. So instead of being emotional, better set the yardstick on the numbers OKay,.. right, if you can't recognise the bounces, in other words, yes, you can't catch the bottom. Fair enough. So..., we all should not be disappointed then with our performance, and feel that we have lost an opportunity for another 5% dip, or even that we have lost an opportunity to load-up the truck. LIke I said earlier,... there will always be another chance. The coming opportunity will even be better,... it is a never-ending cycle. IT is just a matter of when.
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TSprophetjul
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Aug 28 2015, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 28 2015, 05:17 PM) OKay,.. right, if you can't recognise the bounces, in other words, yes, you can't catch the bottom. Fair enough. So..., we all should not be disappointed then with our performance, and feel that we have lost an opportunity for another 5% dip, or even that we have lost an opportunity to load-up the truck. LIke I said earlier,... there will always be another chance. The coming opportunity will even be better,... it is a never-ending cycle. IT is just a matter of when. Yeah........i agree with that. i have no regrets about buying. Just flustered that it didn't go down further as i hoped for.
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AVFAN
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Aug 28 2015, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 28 2015, 04:53 PM) because when it is down.. TAKUT mah... takut u must! if no takut, u buy crude last night at open, reap 10% at close i do not think it's all stable yet. far from it, imo. if china, us and oil markets retest recent lows, big chance will come again to buy. so, good to standby some capacity.
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Showtime747
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Aug 28 2015, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 28 2015, 04:43 PM) u can never buy enough when low and good, but very easy to buy too much when high and no good, right? hehe... we hv all been there.  hahaha every investor's predicament
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AVFAN
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Aug 28 2015, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 28 2015, 05:33 PM) hahaha every investor's predicament  which is why the guru in a good book i read had these 3 messages at the front page: 1. you never get to buy at the bottom or sell at the top. 2. you cannot take what the market will not give you. 3. make what you can and be happy with it, never mind what happens after. i know some other gurus have smarter things to say but i like these 3 things, keep close to my heart all the time. This post has been edited by AVFAN: Aug 28 2015, 05:38 PM
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Showtime747
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Aug 28 2015, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 28 2015, 04:53 PM) because when it is down.. TAKUT mah... Yalor, whole of last week until last Friday whole world down, looks like doom and gloom. So buy bit by bit and look see look see. If go down further, then can buy more to average down. But then suddenly DJI exploded at night. Monday straight shoot up until today. And I missed the boat This is the human psychology I can't get over with. Even with 8-9% yield, still takut
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Showtime747
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Aug 28 2015, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 28 2015, 05:37 PM) which is why the guru in a good book i read had these 3 messages at the front page: 1. you never get to buy at the bottom or sell at the top. 2. you cannot take what the market will not give you. 3. make what you can and be happy with it, never mind what happens after. i know some other gurus have smarter things to say but i like these 3 things, keep close to my heart all the time.  We are know the theory, but when come to the real buying and selling, very difficult to put into practice
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TSprophetjul
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Aug 28 2015, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 28 2015, 05:39 PM) Yalor, whole of last week until last Friday whole world down, looks like doom and gloom. So buy bit by bit and look see look see. If go down further, then can buy more to average down. But then suddenly DJI exploded at night. Monday straight shoot up until today. And I missed the boat This is the human psychology I can't get over with. Even with 8-9% yield, still takut  Croesus was yielding almost 10%!!!!
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Hansel
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Aug 28 2015, 05:45 PM
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'u can never buy enough when low and good, but very easy to buy too much when high and no good, right?'
I believed, for REITs which are fundamentally sound and with growing dividends, it is still okay to buy if it is high and 'no good',...
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Vector88
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Aug 28 2015, 05:46 PM
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Today i bought fraser comm trust, still able to get >7% yield though the price has bounced up about 10% from the bottom..but it is still about 15% from its peak  Yeah, agree, focus on the yields and fundamentals rather spending too much efforts on the "bounces" and catching the lowest entry...
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Hansel
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Aug 28 2015, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 28 2015, 05:42 PM) We are know the theory, but when come to the real buying and selling, very difficult to put into practice  Showtime,... you and the other guys in this recent conversation has put the practice exactly in its place !!!!!!!! Wait for another chance, and use the practice again !!
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Showtime747
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Aug 28 2015, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 28 2015, 05:42 PM) Croesus was yielding almost 10%!!!!  Bought only a little bit. Should have sai lang last Friday. Even early monday still can get 0.795
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Showtime747
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Aug 28 2015, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 28 2015, 05:47 PM) Showtime,... you and the other guys in this recent conversation has put the practice exactly in its place !!!!!!!! Wait for another chance, and use the practice again !! I can tell you when another chance come by, I will still takut
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AVFAN
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Aug 28 2015, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 28 2015, 05:51 PM) I can tell you when another chance come by, I will still takut  dow futures -1xx, maybe turn into papa bear tonite. crude retreating. yr chance to takut may come on monday. dun forget to check us markets tonite.
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Hansel
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Aug 28 2015, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 28 2015, 05:51 PM) I can tell you when another chance come by, I will still takut  'Takut' is the very essence that gives birth to carefulness, the desire to execute the very best of due diligence before plunging into any instrumnt and that creates the best condition for a high probability of success. 'Takut' is a great quality in an investor, though some do not display it.
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Hansel
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Aug 28 2015, 06:01 PM
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' yr chance to takut may come on monday. laugh.gif '
In the above situation, one can always buy puts, or inverses or contras. We can always use such market emotions to our advantage.
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Hansel
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Aug 28 2015, 06:04 PM
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' dun forget to check us markets tonite. tongue.gif '
Talking about the above, I have a question : how do we catch-up with our sleep,.. huh ? Daytime, play the warrants, night-time, play North American puts or shorts or perhaps merely observing the mkt in preparation for the next mkt day on Monday. I find it pretty taxing. Any opinions please ?
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AVFAN
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Aug 28 2015, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 28 2015, 06:04 PM) ' dun forget to check us markets tonite. tongue.gif ' Talking about the above, I have a question : how do we catch-up with our sleep,.. huh ? Daytime, play the warrants, night-time, play North American puts or shorts or perhaps merely observing the mkt in preparation for the next mkt day on Monday. I find it pretty taxing. Any opinions please ? find a 11-7 job or work from home.
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Hansel
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Aug 28 2015, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 28 2015, 06:38 PM) find a 11-7 job or work from home.  So no way to get more sleep if we are into this game.
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