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post May 28 2015, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 28 2015, 02:34 PM)
no one's buying sg reits? biggrin.gif

soilbuildbiz, starhill global edging higher.

first reit - approaching all time high of 1.47, yield still 5.7%! thumbup.gif

sgd1=rm2.7045/2.6925.
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STI coming down this 2 days, but Sreits going up pulak smile.gif

While Mreits follow KLCI to fall sad.gif

I wonder why those high yield >8% counter like croesus, viva, sabana very little interest one ?
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post May 28 2015, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 28 2015, 05:27 PM)
likely a combination of reasons - high gearing, low liquidity, poor past performances.

what i see, the biggest malls in sg have been doing very well - suntec, capitamall... until <5% yield!

industrials - a mix - aimsamp, soilbuildbiz steady. sabana has proven to be much less to be capable in securing tenants.

firstreit in healthcare has been stellar.

office reits quite good - capitacom is stellar.

note many sg reits have revenues coming from outside sg.

sgx has a lot more foreign funds driving it.

bursa now driven by 1mdb. tongue.gif
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Many of us was spooked by sabana sweat.gif

Do you dare to re-look at this reit ? "Worst case scenario still can return 7%" http://www.theedgemarkets.com/sg/article/s...95-cents-tp-uob
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post May 28 2015, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 28 2015, 08:22 PM)
no, dumped this, lippo and ireit global (german offices) as fast as i could! biggrin.gif

these 3 are the ones i dumped, no looking back.

the rest hv been v good, happy enough. wink.gif
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Indo and Germany no good, but Japan one ok mah thumbup.gif
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post May 28 2015, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Vector88 @ May 28 2015, 08:49 PM)
Catch no balls also.. Last friday, yellen said fed will raise int rate within 2015. I tot SREIT will lau sai the following Monday. In contrast, it went up on Monday and stood firm this week when the other markets are in RED.

Probably the SREIT market has pretty much already digested or anticipated the interest hike thingy??
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Yalah...stock market really no follow logic one...a lot of "investor sentiment" instead of fundamental. I always scratch head too tongue.gif
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post May 28 2015, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 28 2015, 09:04 PM)
japan... not much idea except nikkei is running away.... but yen weak.

ireit global, the german office reit was a huge disappointment. the tenants are good, long term, yet it lost >10% in price to date. 8% yield but poor liquidity - that's probably the biggest problem.
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Was referring to this one... https://www.google.com/finance?q=SGX:S6NU

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post May 28 2015, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 28 2015, 09:25 PM)
ya, this one has been brought up many times in this thread. a non-reit trust, right?

quick look at charts... high yield, flat price, looks ok.
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REIT or not nvm, as long as give good dividend tongue.gif

Principal properties in retail renting mainly to Aeon Japan. Improved performance for last two Q. Looks promising
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post May 28 2015, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Vector88 @ May 28 2015, 09:55 PM)
Yeah I have this... The yield is good. Price didn't move for the past 6 months or so.... This is probably the only laggard in retail "reit" subsector....
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From year low 0.88 to now ~0.94/0.95....very the good to me oledi tongue.gif
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post Jun 4 2015, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 4 2015, 11:02 AM)
2.75/2.74. ohmy.gif
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Some of the stock I bought just last week still made losses in SGD but profit in RM. Don't know want to cry or laugh... rclxub.gif

Don't feel like buying more with this historical high rate. Hope it can drop back to sub 2.70.
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post Jun 6 2015, 01:11 PM

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Some business or rich people/family must be dumping RM for SGD in a hurry. For some reasons, they need to convert their money very very quick irregardless of exchange rate.

Only BNM, MAS, the banks handling the transfer and themselves know the story. While we all were left puzzling why it went from 2.69 to 2.78 (almost 3.5%) in a week
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post Jun 6 2015, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 6 2015, 06:57 PM)
Ya, it is broad base. Not only USD. For USD drop I understand. But the drop vs SGD is more than USD over the past week. That's why my "conspiracy theory" is that the business / rich people knew something is happening and taking quick steps to preserve their wealth. When I made my transfer over the last few weeks bit by bit, my bankers are telling me such transactions are getting more and more.

Just that the sudden surge over this week caught me by surprise. I am too slow my RM kena stucked that's why I butthurt tongue.gif
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post Jul 16 2015, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 16 2015, 04:18 PM)
anyone wanting to buy sg stocks and reits with rm, the exchange rate is less unfavorable now.

bnm been intervening the rm vs usd.

usd strengthened again with fed reaffirming rate hike this year 2 days ago.

as the "peg" is held at 3.80x, rm has gained 1% against the sgd within 3 days.

sgd/rm now 2.7895/2.7755.
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I have to read 3 times to see your "less unfavorable" = good time to buy tongue.gif
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post Aug 9 2015, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 8 2015, 07:57 PM)
Difficult not only because of exchange rate but also because you don't use the product or visit the property or building or whatever, you're a bit "blind" because accounts can be manipulated. if you walk around and see a lot of people using the product, or occupying the offices or shopping in the malls or whatever, that can't be faked smile.gif
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Walao eh bro, salute your way of doing due diligence thumbup.gif

I even hold Japan reits with only properties in Japan. Never ever physically seen the prop.
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post Aug 10 2015, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Aug 10 2015, 12:02 PM)
I think Singapore is more transparent than M'sia right?
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Definitely. At least the perception on their authorities always go by the books. No cut corners

Malaysia also not bad nowadays lah. I think they are on par, but perception wise, malaysian authorities do not give such confidence
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post Aug 10 2015, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 10 2015, 04:47 PM)
i left myreits some time ago.

how are myreits doing lately with bursa down and down?

my sgreits are all holding good, just not moving up anymore. biggrin.gif

cimb now: sgd/rm 2.8435/2.8305.
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Not too bad lah mreits, even index down. Consider stable. Get a little bit of both market to spread out mah...

Sreits gain on forex though thumbup.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 10 2015, 05:05 PM)
remember i said 20:80?

for reits, it is 0:100. tongue.gif
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Interest rate hike looks certain in September. Will Singapore rates follow ? Thinking of getting rid of those high borrowing reits, and get those with fixed rate borrowing ones. Good idea or over reacting ?
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post Aug 10 2015, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 10 2015, 05:24 PM)
Why do you think rate hike will happen in Sep?
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U.S. Looks like it. Don't know Sg will follow or not. What you think about Sg ?
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post Aug 10 2015, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 10 2015, 05:31 PM)
yes, i bet on sep too.

sg... no. i dun see them hiking rates, not their style or method.

mas will just continue to move the sgd within the allowed band to optimize against its major trading partners.

the "band" is a state secret; we only know they widened it lately.

my read - the sgd will be allowed to slip a bit more to 1.40 vs usd but will continue to gain against rm and yen.

other currencies, u can deduce.
equities may fall a bit, but reits... i think already factored in all that.

so, i am relaxed - by my own small thoughts! laugh.gif
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I feel uncertainty there. So I have been holding my horses since tongue.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 10 2015, 05:32 PM)
i don't think Yellen knows whether it's going to be done.

The economy is not so strong that it can take a hike. Is there is s hike, its going to be a token hike, just because they have been saying it for too long.
Like 0.125%.

A significant hike will hike biz costs. Money pours into USD. Commodity tanks and world goes into recession.
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post Aug 13 2015, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 13 2015, 03:11 PM)
now... 2.8835/2.8685.  sweat.gif
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Frankly I don't know I should be happy or sad.

Have you reached your 80:20 ?
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post Aug 13 2015, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 13 2015, 03:14 PM)
no! biggrin.gif
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Me too cry.gif

On the one hand, every time I see RM drop to historical low, I am relief I made the decision to shift some liquid investment to overseas. On the other hand, I still have the major portion in Malaysia sweat.gif

A very mixed feeling tongue.gif

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