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post May 30 2024, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 30 2024, 09:05 AM)
Thank you, TOS...

Singtel's underlying profit is still weak in the recent period, but the reason for this is because of non-cash reasons, and because of 'exceptional' losses.

The question now is : will Singtel be able to turn around with all these new initiatives, called the Singtel 28 ?

And secondly,... this is on a personal basis : as a dividend investor, REITs will not be as good as in the earlier days moving fwd and hence, need to find another dividend-generator.
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Hmm, there is a reason why EBIT is not a preferred metric by Buffet...

Impairment is still a cut on shareholder's value... If you sell the asset in the market it won't worth as much as when you first bought it. So impairment is a real opportunity cost for shareholders. Non-cash returns are an important indicator of how well management is managing the business, and it tells you how well the assets of the companies are taken care of. Multiple impairments suggest the company overpaid for the asset in the first place or that the business is no longer doing well, such that future cash flows which can be earned by the company is dropping, so discount it to the preset value equals the impairment made today.

I never bother with all those initiatives... Not too far away, Malaysia has plenty of these: Wawasan 2020, Transformasi 2025, then now Madani... It's all bullshit as you know laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nvidia needs no initiative... it just needs to sell chips... Business is here to make money, not listen to consultants and come up with a bunch of "initiatives".

Singtel never really recovered after a bunch of MVNOs come in and eat up their market share. I myself switched to Zero1 to cut my postpaid cost to 7.06 SGD a month from 10 SGD a month previously charged by Singtel directly...

JV with NVDA doesn't mean the money will flow to Singtel. The pricing power stays with NVDA... and NVDA laughs till the end...

I think the best dividend generator still comes from banks, DBS, UOB and OCBC, nothing beats them so far. And the alignment with shareholders are pretty well demonstrated throughout multiple crises.

Just my 2 cents lah haha

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post May 30 2024, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ May 30 2024, 09:21 AM)
Hmm, there is a reason why EBIT is not a preferred metric by Buffet...

Impairment is still a cut on shareholder's value... If you sell the asset in the market it won't worth as much as when you first bought it. So impairment is a real opportunity cost for shareholders. Non-cash returns are an important indicator of how well management is managing the business, and it tells you how well the assets of the companies are taken care of. Multiple impairments suggest the company overpaid for the asset in the first place or that the business is no longer doing well, such that future cash flows which can be earned by the company is dropping, so discount it to the preset value equals the impairment made today.

I never bother with all those initiatives... Not too far away, Malaysia has plenty of these: Wawasan 2020, Transformasi 2025, then now Madani... It's all bullshit as you know laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nvidia needs no initiative... it just needs to sell chips... Business is here to make money, not listen to consultants and come up with a bunch of "initiatives".

Singtel never really recovered after a bunch of MVNOs come in and eat up their market share. I myself switched to Zero1 to cut my postpaid cost to 7.06 SGD a month from 10 SGD a month previously charged by Singtel directly...

JV with NVDA doesn't mean the money will flow to Singtel. The pricing power stays with NVDA... and NVDA laughs till the end...

I think the best dividend generator still comes from banks, DBS, UOB and OCBC, nothing beats them so far. And the alignment with shareholders are pretty well demonstrated throughout multiple crises.

Just my 2 cents lah haha
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Thank you again, TOS, appreciated your write-up above and your time taken to write for me. Some replies below :-

" I never bother with all those initiatives... Not too far away, Malaysia has plenty of these: Wawasan 2020, Transformasi 2025, then now Madani... It's all bullshit as you know laugh.gif laugh.gif "

I wouldn't compare with Msia's initiatives for obvious reasons. biggrin.gif This Singtel initiative actually started with a Strategic Review in 2021. That initiative was successful and is then 'continued' with the Singtel28 initiative today. Based on the name, this new initiative would continue til 2028. Hence, I would bet on ST28.

" I think the best dividend generator still comes from banks, DBS, UOB and OCBC, nothing beats them so far. And the alignment with shareholders are pretty well demonstrated throughout multiple crises. "

I have all three banks, and just fyi,... I took profit on a number of REITs recently, and cutloss on Sasseur REIT to buy into DBS. I'm hoping OCBC woild increase divvy payout too, but saw this this morning :-

Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation (OCBC) will spend some HK$1.5 billion (S$260 million) to upgrade its technology and facilities across Greater China by 2026, as part of an “accelerated” push to improve customer and staff experience with updated platforms, products and facilities. Of this sum, close to HK$1 billion will go towards modernising OCBC Hong Kong’s technology platform. By 2026, the bank aims to standardise 90% of its channels, services, products and infrastructure, among others. The remaining HK$500 million will go into workplace upgrading for OCBC’s third major site in Hong Kong, says Wang Ke, head of Greater China and CEO of OCBC Hong Kong.

So,... OCBC's payout may just stay flat.

UOB is 'stingy',.... biggrin.gif

For your other statements,... needed more facts to backup. Hence,... will not reply for now, BUT appreciated your input here, bro,...
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post May 30 2024, 11:56 PM

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Another REIT to deleverage and suck your divestment fee: https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...00dc10bc60096ec

MPACT's management is smart and cunning, they mention the divestment fee of 0.5% of the consideration value at the footnote of the announcement document and NEVER mention it in the slides at all. laugh.gif

The fox shows his tails... 狐狸尾巴出来啦 laugh.gif
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post Jun 3 2024, 08:40 PM

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Sabana REIT's EGM cancelled as trustee need more time to sort out the new resolutions from SGIC.

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Sabana_Annou...t&FileID=805561
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post Jun 4 2024, 07:05 PM

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EC World is about to implode... the sponsor borrowed money from some VCC in Singapore with the units of EC World as collateral and the sponsor now failed to repay the loans... The VCC is coming to claim back the money...

Interestingly the VCC seems to be another group of Chinese investors... https://www.fmmfo.com/

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/ECW_Ann%20of...t&FileID=805736

More interesting developments to follow I guess. Get your popcorns ready guys!

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post Jun 8 2024, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 3 2024, 08:40 PM)
Sabana REIT's EGM cancelled as trustee need more time to sort out the new resolutions from SGIC.

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Sabana_Annou...t&FileID=805561
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Apparently SGIC is not happy with Sabana's directors...

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Sabana_Recei...t&FileID=806142

More boardroom drama to come... laugh.gif
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post Jun 10 2024, 08:13 AM

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Changi Business Park emptying out as global tech, finance layoffs take toll

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/property/c...yoffs-take-toll
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post Jun 12 2024, 09:06 AM

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Sabana's trustee update: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Trustee%20St...t&FileID=806366

One of Sabana REIT's tenant went bankrupt... Expect total gross income lost of 2.4% (or 2.3% in proforma FY 2023 DPU): https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Sabana_Tenan...t&FileID=806353

Finally! EC World REIT's creditors are about to wind up EC World...

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/ECW_Update%2...t&FileID=806354

Loans will be accelerated...
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post Jun 13 2024, 11:34 PM

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MIT divest 2 properties in the span of 2 days... no mention of divestment fees eh?

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/20240612-MLT...t&FileID=806478

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/20240613-MLT...t&FileID=806565
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post Jun 18 2024, 08:55 AM

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Woah some interesting fireworks going on between SGIC and Sabana's trustee + manager:

SGIC letter + manager's response: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Sabana_Manag...t&FileID=806799

Trustee's response: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/18%20June%20...t&FileID=806809
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post Jun 19 2024, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 18 2024, 08:55 AM)
Woah some interesting fireworks going on between SGIC and Sabana's trustee + manager:

SGIC letter + manager's response: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Sabana_Manag...t&FileID=806799

Trustee's response: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/18%20June%20...t&FileID=806809
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And the fireworks continue:

EGM to proceed as usual for now: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Sabana_annou...t&FileID=807048

Quarz dares to challenge the management for issuing bonds when rates are at its peak lol

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Sabana_Annou...t&FileID=807046

And once again, the role of trustee is highlighted at the end of the second document lol

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Kesian HSBC Trustee, suck all the fees, throw all the responsibility to SGIC laugh.gif

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post Jun 21 2024, 07:48 AM

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A group of Dasin shareholders are requesting for an EGM to restructure the REIT: https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...4505522519c601b
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post Jun 24 2024, 08:06 AM

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Wow we have a new REIT in trouble: IREIT lost its largest tenant accounting for 20% of its gross rental income...

To make matter worse, they need to spend capex to reposition the property into mixed-used... spend $$$ but no rental income...

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/IREIT%20Upda...t&FileID=807301
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post Jun 25 2024, 09:31 AM

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LMIRT's aggregate leverage ratio to breach 45% limit: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Update_on_Ag...t&FileID=807476
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post Jun 27 2024, 10:06 AM

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Bloomberg COMMENTARY: Singapore needs reforms to revive its Reits

by Andy Mukherjee

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/property/s...evive-its-reits
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post Jun 27 2024, 03:10 PM

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Tq to TOS for all above filings and for your great comments too,...
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post Jun 28 2024, 12:58 PM

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Dasin's update: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/DASINRT-Orig...t&FileID=808098

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The Board wishes to update that the Trustee-Manager has appointed a legal advisor, and  will challenge the Winding up Application by ZZC. The Trustee-Manager has filed its reply  affidavit opposing the Winding Up Application on 27 June 2024.

ZZC and ZZM are conflicted in respect of matters relating to HC/CWU 133/2024. Accordingly, this announcement has not been reviewed by ZZC and ZZM prior to its publication.

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post Jun 30 2024, 07:49 PM

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EC World REIT's update on facilities, mortgages and lawsuits: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/ECW_Update%2...t&FileID=808313
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post Jul 1 2024, 10:52 PM

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Sabana's EGM update: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Sabana%20REI...t&FileID=808442
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Cromwell European REIT portfolio valuations update: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/CEREIT_1H202...t&FileID=808600

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