STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V125, stimulus, no stimulus, stimulus...
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 Sep 6 2012, 02:54 PM, updated 14y ago
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Bet on one side and go, hopefully won't be like V124, closing in bear...
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Sep 6 2012, 02:55 PM
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I'm no.2!!
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Sep 6 2012, 02:56 PM
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Sep 6 2012, 02:57 PM
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bearish times coming soon.. 4!
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Sep 6 2012, 02:57 PM
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Bulls-Bears HUAT AH!! Pigs get slaughter
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Sep 6 2012, 02:58 PM
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hi 5
Aiyo.Get no 6 pulak.... This post has been edited by wenqing: Sep 6 2012, 02:59 PM |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:00 PM
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I get slaughtered.. piak!
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No.8
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Sep 6 2012, 03:05 PM
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Come on..drop more..drop more...
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Sep 6 2012, 03:08 PM
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Silent stalker diam diam check in kaching kaching.
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Sep 6 2012, 03:11 PM
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Check
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Sep 6 2012, 03:12 PM
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Checking in
Portfolio all in deep red  the sole consolation is e-divvy from panamy & sunreit  |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:19 PM
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Sep 6 2012, 03:23 PM
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Still remember last year August all forumer like to play this game
Q : CI will close above 1620 or below?? |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:24 PM
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If market still want to create more "fear", just push BAT down la
Freakkkkkky! |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:25 PM
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hello.. maih.. my banking kena kao kao today
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Sep 6 2012, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Sep 6 2012, 03:25 PM) hello.. maih.. my banking kena kao kao today it make sense to push down banking sector.. CIMB and MAYBANK is the easiest to push down index.. |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 6 2012, 03:32 PM) it make sense to push down banking sector.. Why no update your blog with them stats? CIMB and MAYBANK is the easiest to push down index..  Why so lazy? Why? Day nite don't gangnam so much la. |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 6 2012, 03:34 PM) Why no update your blog with them stats? busy checking my chart... heheheee... sorry ah boss! Why so lazy? Why? Day nite don't gangnam so much la. |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 6 2012, 03:32 PM) it make sense to push down banking sector.. i am holding those kucik miao banks and their percentage of drop is more than maybank CIMB and MAYBANK is the easiest to push down index..  but euro open green, so what:s for tomorrow  |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:37 PM
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Can cut loss a loss counter(penny stock), then top up into another loss counter (blue chip) oo? Since all loss.... no eye see....
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Sep 6 2012, 03:38 PM
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KLCI today will it close -30
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Sep 6 2012, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(ngiaongiao @ Sep 6 2012, 03:37 PM) Can cut loss a loss counter(penny stock), then top up into another loss counter (blue chip) oo? Since all loss.... no eye see.... Don't say no eye see. Eye is there to see. |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Sep 6 2012, 03:36 PM) i am holding those kucik miao banks and their percentage of drop is more than maybank Once shark got your stock at cheap price, tomolo mah leebound lor! but euro open green, so what:s for tomorrow |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:40 PM
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waiting for KLCI drop > 1500
Since HK > 20,000 and SGX > 3000 already...KLCI should follow their foot step |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Sep 6 2012, 03:36 PM) i am holding those kucik miao banks and their percentage of drop is more than maybank AFG looks great... kecik miao bank ? what bank? mind to share ah? but euro open green, so what:s for tomorrow you have to ask our daikoh daikoh Malaysia.. whether are they enough to push down the market? but foreign fund buying wor... thats why pana jie not happy |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:44 PM
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What a happy day
. My secret weapon has been invented.  This post has been edited by Pan84: Sep 6 2012, 03:45 PM |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:45 PM
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Check-in. Gimme #28
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Sep 6 2012, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 6 2012, 03:38 PM) Once shark got your stock at cheap price, tomolo mah leebound lor! things doesnt look good this week.. hope for a rebound next week if no other bad news coming in finger crossed  Added on September 6, 2012, 3:46 pm QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 6 2012, 03:41 PM) AFG looks great... kecik miao bank ? what bank? mind to share ah? not afg.. i think they are the two smallest banks.. finfin and bimb you have to ask our daikoh daikoh Malaysia.. whether are they enough to push down the market? but foreign fund buying wor... thats why pana jie not happy  can anyone check for me if bimb has any cw expiring soon?  This post has been edited by jy1905: Sep 6 2012, 03:51 PM |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:48 PM
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Checking in. Long time not see KLSE like today!
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Sep 6 2012, 03:55 PM
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Sold all my free Hektar RI at 0.145. Lazy to go Post office do all the RI thing, very the sien one.
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Sep 6 2012, 03:56 PM
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Check in!! Madbear in charge today...
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Sep 6 2012, 03:56 PM
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awaiting opportunity
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Sep 6 2012, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Sep 6 2012, 03:45 PM) things doesnt look good this week.. hope for a rebound next week if no other bad news coming in BIMB-CC going to expired this month... finger crossed Added on September 6, 2012, 3:46 pm not afg.. i think they are the two smallest banks.. finfin and bimb can anyone check for me if bimb has any cw expiring soon? |
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Sep 6 2012, 03:58 PM
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JCY company spend 4.7xx million on share buy back yesterday..
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Sep 6 2012, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 6 2012, 03:56 PM) BIMB-CC going to expired this month... ahh.. the exact date? |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Sep 6 2012, 03:59 PM) ahh.. the exact date? 28/9/2012opps.. that is my ex birthday |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:02 PM
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Asia markets mostly in green, only KLSE fall >1%.
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Sep 6 2012, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:02 PM) Asia markets mostly in green, only KLSE fall >1%. Euro is green too. Only we, singapore and taiwan in red. Added on September 6, 2012, 4:04 pmI wait Axreit at 2.85, follow by 2.80.  This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 6 2012, 04:04 PM |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 6 2012, 04:01 PM) 28/9/2012 paiseh opps.. that is my ex birthday seems too early for the selldown for bimb |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:05 PM
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Quick glance at Most Active page, macam zero influence, super defensive dao
Looks like today's big killers are the fat bluecheat. |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:14 PM
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Panamy dividend masuk bank account
 Major correction done by local fun manager? |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:16 PM
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PPB-CC looks like a good choice for punting
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Sep 6 2012, 04:16 PM
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OSK said,
Probably due to Moody’s downgrade on European Union’s longer-term issuer rating outlook, the FBM KLCI experienced a strong selling pressure yesterday. The index retraced sharply by about 13 pts from the 1,655-pt historic high and violated the recent low of 1,643 pts. In the next few days, should the FBM KLCI quickly rebound back above 1,643 pt-level, it will be trading sideways between 1,643 pt-level and 1,655 pt-level. Judging by yesterday’s market action, it is likely that the index may be extending the consolidation phase started since 15 Aug 2012. Nevertheless, failure to return above 1,643 pt-level may signal further weakening of the market, possibly towards the immediate support of 1,630/1,631-pt level, or even 1,620 pt-level. Although the selling pressure is still felt, our bullish bias for the near term remains unchanged for now. There is a possibility that the index could gap up at the opening today and close back above 1,643 pts. From the current level, look for an immediate resistance at around 1,648 pt-level, which is the mid-point of yesterday’s “Long Black Day”. The 1,655-pt historic high would be the next major hurdle. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 6 2012, 04:16 PM |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:17 PM
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Is there one have any idea about PPB? Why drop so much? I bought it at RM14.16 and now.
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Sep 6 2012, 04:18 PM
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aiya why most reit drop, but the axreit going up lol.
and knm oso go up? hehe |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:17 PM) Is there one have any idea about PPB? Why drop so much? I bought it at RM14.16 and now. Wilmar outlook bad. That's why. I'm waiting at 10-11 range. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 6 2012, 04:20 PM |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:20 PM
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PBB's current price quite attractive.. any advice?
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Sep 6 2012, 04:21 PM
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Local funds selling, KLCI pull-back to 1600 seen
Written by Ho Wah Foon of theedgemalaysia.com Thursday, 06 September 2012 11:05 KUALA LUMPUR (Sept 6) – Local funds are actively selling index linked stocks for the second day running, forcing down the FBM KLCI by about 1% in mid-morning trade, according to Fong Teng Siew, the head of research for InterPacific Securities. Fong told theedgemalaysia in a telephone interview Thursday: “Local funds are selling big cap stocks, Petronas group of companies and index-linked stocks. Probably they think that in terms of pricing and valuation, the current market is high.” In mid-morning trade, the market fell across the board with all sectoral indices rolling in the negative territory. At 11.03 am, the FBM KLCI lost 14.81 points or 0.9% to 1626.20. Big cap stocks that registered falls include PPB, Petgas, Petronas Dagangan PChem, AEONCR, KLK, Dutch Lady, Genting, Axiata, CIMB, Maybank and TM. Yesterday the local funds and retail players were already net sellers, with foreign funds being net buyers, Fong noted. “Valuation for our market is very high now, with some big cap stocks such as telcos having 30 times PEs. The last time we had such high PEs was in 1993 and after that the market crashed, but I don’t think there will be a crash this time around. A strong pull-back to just above 1600 is possible,” Fong said. He said he is advising clients not to enter the market now as valuation is high. “But for those already in the market, they may have to hold on to their stocks for long term prospects.” |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 6 2012, 04:14 PM) Panamy dividend masuk bank account maybe local funds selling first to increase firepower to buy when ff starts selling after the parliment is dissolved? Major correction done by local fun manager? |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:22 PM
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any other reasons for today's sharp retreat?
it looks real bad today |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:22 PM
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BAT up >Rm1
Added on September 6, 2012, 4:22 pm QUOTE(mikehwy @ Sep 6 2012, 04:22 PM) any other reasons for today's sharp retreat? Long overdueee... it looks real bad today This post has been edited by cherroy: Sep 6 2012, 04:22 PM |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:20 PM) Wilmar outlook bad. That's why. I'm waiting at 10-11 range. suddenly thought of transmile.. last time when it go down many ppl say just hentam.. robert kuok sure no prob.. but then this time buy or not buy? |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:24 PM
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Ingens still looking good but beware CBL bought on margin can sell anytime..
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Sep 6 2012, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:20 PM) Wilmar outlook bad. That's why. I'm waiting at 10-11 range. I read about it at newspaper. MD said long term on Wilmar. if go to RM10- RM11 then really a risk of lost in appreciation. |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:24 PM) suddenly thought of transmile.. last time when it go down many ppl say just hentam.. robert kuok sure no prob.. but then this time Remind me of Maybulk, too. buy or not buy? Another RK company. |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:16 PM) PPB-CC looks like a good choice for punting ex price 17 but at 1 sen anything can happen |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:29 PM
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Boon3
out of jail counter, the director is well known for manipulating own counter.. |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:25 PM) I read about it at newspaper. MD said long term on Wilmar. if go to RM10- RM11 then really a risk of lost in appreciation. PPB got another risk, is that it involved in basic needs(food) businesses that highly depending on government's price control. Therefore its China business is not doing well. Not defensive, if play with rice or sugar etc. basic needs food business. High risk actually, if the government is not yet a mature one. |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:35 PM
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US futures is moderately green. bullish
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Sep 6 2012, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:32 PM) PPB got another risk, is that it involved in basic needs(food) businesses that highly depending on government's price control. Therefore its China business is not doing well. Not defensive, if play with rice or sugar etc. basic needs food business. High risk actually, if the government is not yet a mature one. actually if positive on WILMAR, why not bet on WILMAR directly ? betul kah ? |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(primepeng @ Sep 6 2012, 04:35 PM) US futures is moderately green. bullish Last time, all overseas market red red time, KLCI still green green even charging all time high.Now become a reverse trend... |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 6 2012, 04:29 PM) Boon3 Yes, a well known masak masak taukeh! out of jail counter, the director is well known for manipulating own counter.. |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:41 PM
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this is from wilmar .
Attached File(s) 
Wilmar_2Q12_Results_Briefing_Presentation.pdf ( 713.55k )
Number of downloads: 36 |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:32 PM) PPB got another risk, is that it involved in basic needs(food) businesses that highly depending on government's price control. Therefore its China business is not doing well. Not defensive, if play with rice or sugar etc. basic needs food business. High risk actually, if the government is not yet a mature one. in other words QE3 would be bad for ppb |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:45 PM
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omg.. i have only 1 white... 0 green...
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Sep 6 2012, 04:45 PM
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cimb oso bleeding
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Sep 6 2012, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:43 PM) in other words QE3 would be bad for ppb QE3 may send another inflation to raw materials price and commodities.So if the company cannot pass the cost to the consumer, then yes, margin may be squeezed. I do not know palm oil, sugar is a price controlled item in China? |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:47 PM
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Hero of the day ~ BAT
But I wouldn't be surprise to see it on top loser page the next day.  |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:36 PM) actually if positive on WILMAR, why not bet on WILMAR directly ? betul kah ? Compare to wilmar, PPB business more diversified. And I like its bread business, doing very well actually. In such a short time, now already in profit. |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:48 PM
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Amedia & Ingens never fail to amaze me this few weeks.. |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 6 2012, 04:46 PM) QE3 may send another inflation to raw materials price and commodities. AFAIK, the processed cooking oil is an control item in China, i'm not sure about sugarSo if the company cannot pass the cost to the consumer, then yes, margin may be squeezed. I do not know palm oil, sugar is a price controlled item in China? |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 6 2012, 04:46 PM) QE3 may send another inflation to raw materials price and commodities. if i am not mistaken, wilmar controls 50% of cooking oil market in chinaSo if the company cannot pass the cost to the consumer, then yes, margin may be squeezed. I do not know palm oil, sugar is a price controlled item in China? and the price of cooking oil is controlled by gov.. i read an article saying that the china gov issued an official statement to the producers not to increase the price some time ago and the most recent one the gov only "advise" them not to increase |
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Sep 6 2012, 04:56 PM
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yay~! we closed below 1620 support!!!
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Sep 6 2012, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 6 2012, 04:56 PM) yay~! we closed below 1620 support!!! tmr 1600 then .  |
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Sep 6 2012, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:57 PM) tmr 1600 then . The lee bound |
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Sep 6 2012, 05:01 PM
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Hmm, time to get out my FD?
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Sep 6 2012, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Sep 6 2012, 05:01 PM) Hmm, time to get out my FD? Baru second day of correction It took 3 months atleast (ups & down in between) to get a good bargain. |
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Sep 6 2012, 05:10 PM
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forum is so active during bleeding red day, lots of inactive member showed up today
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Sep 6 2012, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Sep 6 2012, 04:52 PM) if i am not mistaken, wilmar controls 50% of cooking oil market in china To do business in China sometime you have to take serious consideration on government advice... that's why Wilmar is losing money on the oil seed crunching business in China, that had been drag for some time liao, every now and then bottom line also get a hit on that and there is no visible solution on the horizon, investor losing confident on the counter, even though the CEO everyday drum up the business, unless one fine day China government pity them, else they might going like that forever... sound stupid? But seems like that's the real situation there... Also Wilmar is worst among oil seed cruncher in China, then seems to be buying expensive every round, whereas others like Golden Agri & Indofood seems to have better timing in buying their feedstock... and the price of cooking oil is controlled by gov.. i read an article saying that the china gov issued an official statement to the producers not to increase the price some time ago and the most recent one the gov only "advise" them not to increase |
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Sep 6 2012, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Sep 6 2012, 06:01 PM) Hmm, time to get out my FD? whatever you do, don't put everything into share market at a time. |
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Sep 6 2012, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(john123x @ Sep 6 2012, 05:10 PM) forum is so active during bleeding red day, lots of inactive member showed up today Bears in hibernation just woke up..  |
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Sep 6 2012, 05:39 PM
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 super red ...... timing for revenge ...... |
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Sep 6 2012, 05:44 PM
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Good time to buy..
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Sep 6 2012, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 6 2012, 04:45 PM) omg.. i have only 1 white... 0 green... How many ipads lost this round? |
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 6 2012, 05:18 PM) Bears in hibernation just woke up.. Hibernating shark smell blood, and wake up... |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 6 2012, 05:51 PM) Hibernating shark smell blood, and wake up... Vampire freed? |
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Time for minor correction I guess ?
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Sep 6 2012, 06:23 PM
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The bull has awaken!!!
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Sep 6 2012, 06:24 PM
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Time to stock up on dividend counters and profit in 2013
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NCB is in sales =)
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QUOTE(holybo @ Sep 6 2012, 07:42 PM) NCB is in sales =) not yet.... this GLC ... 3.8rm should be great! |
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Sep 6 2012, 06:55 PM
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I like the word they used to describe the share drop...
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Samsung sold 20M unit of S3, 6m units to Europe, where got bad time one ?
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Sales coming to and end already?
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Sep 6 2012, 06:55 PM) I like the word they used to describe the share drop... Wow. Learned a lot of grammar 2day ! --> lost, fell, dropped, shrunk deducted, decreased, down, retreated |
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Sep 6 2012, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 6 2012, 07:13 PM) Samsung sold 20M unit of S3, 6m units to Europe, where got bad time one ? Then I know who is bad http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...ec=reutersworld  
Our local fund managers pushing down the shares. |
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Bank Muamalat Malaysia Bhd's (BMMB) net profit for the first quarter ended June 30, 2012 rose 41.6 per cent to RM45.2
million from RM32.0 million posted a year ago. In a statement today, the company said its revenue grew 14.5 per cent to RM255.6 million compared to last year's RM223.3 million. The bank also declared a higher financing income of RM148.3 million due to increased financing growth. Meanwhile, year-on-year, BMMB's customer deposits increased to RM15.8 billion while saving deposits improved 29.1 per cent over the same period. Its key capital ratios remain higher than the industry level, with Core Capital Ratio and Risk Weighted Capital Ratio at 13.6 per cent and 18.9 per cent, respectively, above the minimum regulatory requirement. Chief Executive Officer Datuk Mohd Redza Shah Abdul Wahid said: "The growth is encouraging despite being in a competitive market and we are on track to surpass the RM10 billion financing mark in the next quarter. "While we are pleased with our first quarter progress, we will continue to place great emphasis on strengthening our balance sheet to position the bank towards long-term sustainable growth." -- Bernama Read more: Bank Muamalat Q1 net profit rises to RM45.2m http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM.../#ixzz25gvMiLjI |
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Sep 6 2012, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Sep 6 2012, 02:51 PM) the deeper of drop, the higher chance of rebound...............same concept that we buy the panic sell counter |
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Sep 6 2012, 08:24 PM
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kekeke let's see how our little mkt react tomorrow...
now EU goreng after Super Mario's policy decision... US ADP number green light... --- his speech will start soon... let's see if mkt will crash... we have fed meeting and german court ruling next week... This post has been edited by mopster: Sep 6 2012, 08:26 PM |
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Sep 6 2012, 08:54 PM
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sigh, now i am hearing some stupid people playing rocket fireworks.
drop 1.5% also wants to celebrate..... |
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QUOTE(john123x @ Sep 6 2012, 08:54 PM) sigh, now i am hearing some stupid people playing rocket fireworks. Sidelined position for too long thats what will happen drop 1.5% also wants to celebrate..... |
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Sep 6 2012, 09:07 PM
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FRANKFURT (Reuters) - The European Central Bank agreed a new bond-buying program on Thursday to lower struggling euro zone countries' borrowing costs which would serve as a "fully effective backstop", ECB President Mario Draghi said on Thursday.
The ECB Governing Council agreed on the "modalities of outright monetary transactions", Draghi told a news conference after the Council's monthly policymaking meeting in Frankfurt. Seeking to back up his pledge to do whatever it takes to preserve the euro, Draghi said the new bond-buying program, aimed at the secondary market, would "safeguard the monetary policy transmission in all countries in the euro zone area". It would address bond market distortions and the "unfounded" fears of investors about the irreversibility of the euro. The scheme, which the Bundesbank is known to have opposed, would be a "fully effective backstop to prevent potentially destructive scenarios", he said. "We are strictly within our mandate," Draghi said. Becomes QE member liau. |
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Sep 6 2012, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Sep 6 2012, 06:55 PM) I like the word they used to describe the share drop... haha, so many different vocabs which means the same thing... |
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Sep 6 2012, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(staind @ Sep 6 2012, 09:07 PM) FRANKFURT (Reuters) - The European Central Bank agreed a new bond-buying program on Thursday to lower struggling euro zone countries' borrowing costs which would serve as a "fully effective backstop", ECB President Mario Draghi said on Thursday. So tomorrow mad bullThe ECB Governing Council agreed on the "modalities of outright monetary transactions", Draghi told a news conference after the Council's monthly policymaking meeting in Frankfurt. Seeking to back up his pledge to do whatever it takes to preserve the euro, Draghi said the new bond-buying program, aimed at the secondary market, would "safeguard the monetary policy transmission in all countries in the euro zone area". It would address bond market distortions and the "unfounded" fears of investors about the irreversibility of the euro. The scheme, which the Bundesbank is known to have opposed, would be a "fully effective backstop to prevent potentially destructive scenarios", he said. "We are strictly within our mandate," Draghi said. Becomes QE member liau. |
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Sep 6 2012, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 6 2012, 08:58 PM) Sidelined position for too long thats what will happen its not that i am in panic mode, but for money, the more the better |
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Sep 6 2012, 09:24 PM
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chartnexus shows wrong data on many stocks including the open price, high, low, close price. third party sent wrong data I guess.
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Sep 6 2012, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(primepeng @ Sep 6 2012, 09:24 PM) chartnexus shows wrong data on many stocks including the open price, high, low, close price. third party sent wrong data I guess. Yea. noticed this as well. |
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Sep 6 2012, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(staind @ Sep 6 2012, 10:27 PM) Yea. noticed this as well. the data downloaded is timed around 3:15. curiousAdded on September 6, 2012, 9:53 pm QUOTE(CP88 @ Sep 6 2012, 09:08 PM) Wow. Learned a lot of grammar 2day ! THE CLIENT.... --> lost, fell, dropped, shrunk deducted, decreased, down, retreated Added on September 6, 2012, 9:55 pmStocks rose with Spanish and Italian debt and the euro erased gains as European Central Bank President Mario Draghi said policy makers agreed to an unlimited bond-buying program. Bull starts to run again. This post has been edited by primepeng: Sep 6 2012, 09:56 PM |
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Sep 6 2012, 10:30 PM
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Europe start QE, a relief for helicopter ben?
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Sep 6 2012, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 6 2012, 10:30 PM) Europe start QE, a relief for helicopter ben? According to super mario, the unlimited bond purchase is all sterilized... Meaning there Is no increase in money supply... Wonder if that really means no additional printing... |
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Sep 6 2012, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 6 2012, 10:36 PM) According to super mario, the unlimited bond purchase is all sterilized... Meaning there Is no increase in money supply... Wonder if that really means no additional printing... How would that be possible?Unless they're digging their old savings up, or doing at the expense of others? |
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Sep 6 2012, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 6 2012, 10:30 PM) Europe start QE, a relief for helicopter ben? More like a relief to me. Anyway, earlier I already mention the bull has awaken!!! So it seems that the statement stands :D |
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Sep 6 2012, 10:40 PM
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Vietnam Risks Biggest East Asia IMF Rescue Since 1990s
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-0...e-1990s-economy |
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Sep 6 2012, 10:44 PM
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1700 or 1500?
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Sep 6 2012, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 6 2012, 10:44 PM) 1700 or 1500? can try this -> http://www.random.org/integers/?num=1&min=...at=html&rnd=new from the recent q earnings, analyst not upgrading CI year end target. and CI seems to be trading above historical average . edit -> 10:44a BREAKING S&P at highest intraday level since May 2008 This post has been edited by GregPG01: Sep 6 2012, 11:03 PM |
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Sep 6 2012, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 6 2012, 11:44 PM) 1700 or 1500? 1680 |
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Sep 6 2012, 11:00 PM
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today super red, tomorrow super green. 1700 possible, who knows maybe
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Sep 6 2012, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 6 2012, 10:36 PM) According to super mario, the unlimited bond purchase is all sterilized... Meaning there Is no increase in money supply... Wonder if that really means no additional printing... Do u think Germany would gladly lend more to ECB?or maybe they are trying to utilize fund available in EFSF QUOTE(jasontoh @ Sep 6 2012, 10:39 PM) More like a relief to me. Anyway, earlier I already mention the bull has awaken!!! So it seems that the statement stands the bull might hibernate by early next year if it goes :D |
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Sep 6 2012, 11:37 PM
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Our malaysia market always different from global 1
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Sep 6 2012, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Sep 6 2012, 10:50 PM) from the recent q earnings, analyst not upgrading CI year end target. and CI seems to be trading above historical average . Actually, Maybank did raise year end target to 1620 from previous 1565, still the same PE 13.3x. Which means, q earnings actually beats Maybank's expectation.And for CIMB, they keep the same 1650 at 13.3x. Added on September 6, 2012, 11:50 pm QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Sep 6 2012, 10:53 PM) 1680 I like good lucky numbers. Lets hit there before pulling back for GE show. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 6 2012, 11:50 PM |
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if the stock suddenly increase price even got 0 buyer,influence by what?
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Sep 7 2012, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 6 2012, 10:44 PM) 1700 or 1500? 1450?Added on September 7, 2012, 1:35 amAnyhow, while market is ding dong-ing + yo yo-ing... Would like to share some Rabbit to Dragon happenings Rabbit Leaping to Dragon This post has been edited by Bonescythe: Sep 7 2012, 01:35 AM |
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We are saved, we are saved! All hail Super Mario |
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Late check in.
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Check in....
Added on September 7, 2012, 6:29 amHopefully the market down this week till next week. Time for me to make additional investment in my public mutual unit trust........ my share in hand is showing in red colour.... too bad.... not to put money in share market at the moment... I would rather invest in my unit trust.... Added on September 7, 2012, 6:32 am QUOTE(adam09 @ Sep 7 2012, 12:37 AM) if the stock suddenly increase price even got 0 buyer,influence by what? totaly agree...This post has been edited by kenny5978: Sep 7 2012, 06:32 AM |
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QUOTE 2Q12 results largely disappointed. In our plantation sector report of 11 July (post MPOB's 2Q industry output data release), we warned that the sector's 2Q results may continue to disappoint (after a dismal 1Q), and so it has turned out. The sector was hit by low FFB output, high production cost, and flattish QoQ CPO ASP. Despite the 2Q12 set-backs, we expect 2H12 earnings to be significantly stronger HoH as plantation companies enter the peak harvesting season. We maintain our Neutral sector call on fair valuations. We have however upgraded SIME to a BUY post its results outperformance and for its relatively cheaper valuation vis-�-vis IOI and KLK. SOP is our other top BUY. Maybank IB Added on September 7, 2012, 7:07 am QUOTE(holybo @ Sep 6 2012, 11:37 PM) Our malaysia market always different from global 1 malaysia bolehThis post has been edited by aeronic: Sep 7 2012, 07:07 AM |
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QUOTE(aeronic @ Sep 7 2012, 07:06 AM) Maybank IB planters q3 results should be better than q2 i believe . output has recovered mostly and cpo ~3k . sabah planters output however recovering slowest.2Q12 results largely disappointed. In our plantation sector report of 11 July (post MPOB's 2Q industry output data release), we warned that the sector's 2Q results may continue to disappoint (after a dismal 1Q), and so it has turned out. The sector was hit by low FFB output, high production cost, and flattish QoQ CPO ASP. Despite the 2Q12 set-backs, we expect 2H12 earnings to be significantly stronger HoH as plantation companies enter the peak harvesting season. We maintain our Neutral sector call on fair valuations. We have however upgraded SIME to a BUY post its results outperformance and for its relatively cheaper valuation vis-�-vis IOI and KLK. SOP is our other top BUY. latest SOP year to year output was pretty high . This post has been edited by GregPG01: Sep 7 2012, 08:34 AM |
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could be a mini bull since 2days of dropping hard?
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Sep 7 2012, 09:02 AM
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expecting green friday
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Sep 7 2012, 09:04 AM
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something is going wrong with bursa... i think those big boys have know something that we dont know...
Added on September 7, 2012, 9:06 amtoday will be another drop... since yesterday FKLI is maintaining a difference of 8 point below main index... This post has been edited by tallrice: Sep 7 2012, 09:06 AM |
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What a weak opening in Green
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Sep 7 2012, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 7 2012, 09:10 AM) What a weak opening in Green Anytime also can go back to red  |
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Sep 7 2012, 09:19 AM
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Ya, local funs prefer red. So be it.
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Sep 7 2012, 09:25 AM
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red color now....
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Sep 7 2012, 09:26 AM
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Ron97 up 30 sens, good stock this one.
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Sep 7 2012, 09:28 AM
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still early, wait around 10.30 only can know today direction..
Ace counter not bad already.. This post has been edited by magika: Sep 7 2012, 09:30 AM |
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Sep 7 2012, 09:35 AM
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Checked in. Looks like its another dull day, EU and US up 2-3% but our mkt dwn 4pts dy
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Sep 7 2012, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Sep 7 2012, 09:35 AM) Checked in. Looks like its another dull day, EU and US up 2-3% but our mkt dwn 4pts dy looks like 1600 coming. |
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Sep 7 2012, 09:59 AM
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Wow , Amedia is going to the moon.
4 to 5X return for YHTan liao. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 7 2012, 10:01 AM |
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Sep 7 2012, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 7 2012, 09:59 AM) Wow , Amedia is going to the moon. 300% up based on this price 4 to 5X for YHTan liao. I think institutional fund keep buying for the past few months, what do u think? |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 7 2012, 10:02 AM) 300% up based on this price You still hold? Congratulations! I think institutional fund keep buying for the past few months, what do u think? |
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CI clawing up
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 7 2012, 10:04 AM) You still hold? Congratulations! Bought it since last year Their live broadcast should be running by 2H 2012, or maybe end of this year, maybe that is the factor that push the stock price up |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 7 2012, 10:02 AM) 300% up based on this price Some kind of injection of Telco or Digitized projects , maybe.I think institutional fund keep buying for the past few months, what do u think? S M got so many telco projects, but may not have the expertise. Remember MRT n LRT could be a good source too. Just guessing only. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 7 2012, 10:09 AM |
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the 3 telcos inching up
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Sep 7 2012, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 7 2012, 10:07 AM) Some kind of injection of Telco projects , maybe. Telco project? i doubt they have the expertise to prosecute. I'll rather wish them to focus on their core business, as u mentioned the future LRT and MRT is a future good revenue source for themS M got so many telco projects, but may not have the expertise. Remember MRT n LRT could be a good source too. Just guessing only. |
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Sep 7 2012, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(nasni @ Sep 7 2012, 10:07 AM) the 3 telcos inching up Still holding your Axiata? I'm impress with their latest quarter result and of course the latest 8 cent dividend |
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Sep 7 2012, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 7 2012, 10:10 AM) Still holding your Axiata? I'm impress with their latest quarter result and of course the latest 8 cent dividend Telcos are doing well in US too, maybe due to fast expansion of mobile smartphones and tablets, and 4GAdded on September 7, 2012, 10:20 am QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 7 2012, 10:09 AM) Telco project? i doubt they have the expertise to prosecute. I'll rather wish them to focus on their core business, as u mentioned the future LRT and MRT is a future good revenue source for them Some kinda big projects to be pumped in This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 7 2012, 10:20 AM |
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CSL has passed the 6 months period. Now still trading at PE 6x, still trading above its IPO price. If it able to sustain that for another 3-6 months, there is possibility of other redchips to be re-rating....perhaps at least craw back to their IPO price? Only time will tell. Those shoes companies, even at 3x, could gain 100% or more at current price.
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 6 2012, 04:01 PM) 28/9/2012 what happen if i buy and hold it until the expiry date? can we exercise the cw at rm2?opps.. that is my ex birthday |
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QUOTE(faridfadhly @ Sep 7 2012, 10:35 AM) what happen if i buy and hold it until the expiry date? can we exercise the cw at rm2? I thought it is cash settlement one de?? |
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I wonder whether the ECB bond buying programme that result in huge market bull will last or not.
I still do not quite understand how to "sterilise" the money of bond buying. Unlimited purchase? Wow, means country can still continue issue bond to fund the budget deficit? After all ECB will buy? Like a open "water tap" that unlimited? |
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QUOTE(faridfadhly @ Sep 7 2012, 10:35 AM) what happen if i buy and hold it until the expiry date? can we exercise the cw at rm2? it is depend on the CW is in of the money or out of the money.. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 7 2012, 10:39 AM) I wonder whether the ECB bond buying programme that result in huge market bull will last or not. Is just the term or name which make everyone confuseI still do not quite understand how to "sterilise" the money of bond buying. Unlimited purchase? Wow, means country can still continue issue bond to fund the budget deficit? After all ECB will buy? Like a open "water tap" that unlimited? iPad 3 - The New iPad Later Uncle Ben launch QE3, he will name it "The New QE" I still wonder, did Merkel agree on purchasing PIIGS bond |
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QUOTE(wenqing @ Sep 7 2012, 10:36 AM) I thought it is cash settlement one de?? oops sorry ive look at the BIMB-CC listing info just nowIts cash settlement so if its in the money then we will receive the cheque within 7 days. BIMB-CC is traded at 0.33 and the mother is 3.15, looks attractive |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 7 2012, 10:39 AM) I wonder whether the ECB bond buying programme that result in huge market bull will last or not. It is provided certain conditions are met eg. reduce budget deficit.. I still do not quite understand how to "sterilise" the money of bond buying. Unlimited purchase? Wow, means country can still continue issue bond to fund the budget deficit? After all ECB will buy? Like a open "water tap" that unlimited? |
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Sep 7 2012, 10:52 AM
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CI graph shape like a roller coaster. it's share market afterall
strong rally seen in S.Korea,China,H.Kong, 2% up, and asian indice. Bursa market doesn't follow the world market. proven maybe will catchup later. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 7 2012, 10:39 AM) I wonder whether the ECB bond buying programme that result in huge market bull will last or not. The Catch is Spain must ask for IMF help ( complying to IMF strict rules ) before qualifying for the bond supports ( under the new program ) I still do not quite understand how to "sterilise" the money of bond buying. Unlimited purchase? Wow, means country can still continue issue bond to fund the budget deficit? After all ECB will buy? Like a open "water tap" that unlimited? I think there would be limited new issues of bonds for countries under the IMF assistance , hence unlimited purchases become effective. " sterilised " - would make it more effective " right ? " Strict and effective conditions will be attached to the OMTs and European Financial Stability or European Stability Mechanism programs, Draghi said, adding the ECB would seek the involvement of the International Monetary Fund to design country-specific conditions." This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 7 2012, 11:02 AM |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 7 2012, 10:46 AM) Is just the term or name which make everyone confuse According to media article, I still do not understand sterilised bond buying programme that stated no increase in money supply.iPad 3 - The New iPad Later Uncle Ben launch QE3, he will name it "The New QE" I still wonder, did Merkel agree on purchasing PIIGS bond So without printing new money, where ECB get those money to buy? Bare in mind, we may be talking in ten to hundred billion in figure. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-05/e...ond-buying.html QUOTE European Central Bank President Mario Draghi’s bond-buying proposal involves unlimited purchases of government debt that will be sterilized to assuage concerns about printing money |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 7 2012, 11:03 AM) According to media article, I still do not understand sterilised bond buying programme that stated no increase in money supply. I'm accounting idiot. But my guess is it's some kind of "balance sheet tricks"? I don't know.So without printing new money, where ECB get those money to buy? Bare in mind, we may be talking in ten to hundred billion in figure. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-05/e...ond-buying.html However, the overall feelings of it is the same feel as Sky said. They just make it "more effective", so that they no need all sorts of endless meetings before any decision made for the funding. And I also don't think there will be really that "unlimited". Just that there's no on paper limit, which is pointless also since it took months and months to just make one number after tens of meetings. They drag it too long already, now they really want to make a faster move, be it to solve the problem or prolong it or whatever. At least, do something and see how it goes. I guess that's the spirit of it. |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 11:15 AM) I'm accounting idiot. But my guess is it's some kind of "balance sheet tricks"? I don't know. As far as I know, bond buying is not going to solve continously serious budget deficit issue, it just temporarily solve funding or refinancing of matured bond at lower rate, instead at unsustainable interest rate.However, the overall feelings of it is the same feel as Sky said. They just make it "more effective", so that they no need all sorts of endless meetings before any decision made for the funding. And I also don't think there will be really that "unlimited". Just that there's no on paper limit, which is pointless also since it took months and months to just make one number after tens of meetings. They drag it too long already, now they really want to make a faster move, be it to solve the problem or prolong it or whatever. At least, do something and see how it goes. I guess that's the spirit of it. |
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Sep 7 2012, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 7 2012, 10:54 AM) my JCY looking good.. Show off! Scomi not bad eh? |
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Just like Ben cannot solve US high deficit issue through QE.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 7 2012, 11:03 AM) According to media article, I still do not understand sterilised bond buying programme that stated no increase in money supply. My guess :-So without printing new money, where ECB get those money to buy? Bare in mind, we may be talking in ten to hundred billion in figure. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-05/e...ond-buying.html 1) They utilize the deposit placed by those Europe Bank 2) They utilize the fund gather from each Europe country, especially in EFSF or ESM (i can't remember which one), leverage 5-10 times to purchase the bond If they use scenario no.2, then money supply would be increase by leveraging, isn't it |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 7 2012, 11:19 AM) Show off! Boon3Scomi not bad eh? your ***er counter why so many material litigation.. |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 11:15 AM) I'm accounting idiot. But my guess is it's some kind of "balance sheet tricks"? I don't know. Ya, Some kind of solutions are always better than no solution at all.However, the overall feelings of it is the same feel as Sky said. They just make it "more effective", so that they no need all sorts of endless meetings before any decision made for the funding. And I also don't think there will be really that "unlimited". Just that there's no on paper limit, which is pointless also since it took months and months to just make one number after tens of meetings. They drag it too long already, now they really want to make a faster move, be it to solve the problem or prolong it or whatever. At least, do something and see how it goes. I guess that's the spirit of it. Just like Bill Clinton said, US problems are accumulated over the decades, whoever ( Republicans ) claims can solve the problems " fast" is more or less telling lies. |
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 7 2012, 11:25 AM) Boon3 I also dunno why. I guess that's why the price so cheap. your ***er counter why so many material litigation.. Sold the other day already. Might consider re-entry around 130. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 7 2012, 11:29 AM) I also dunno why. I guess that's why the price so cheap. it looks like its not paying its supplier, this type of company can ah.. Sold the other day already. Might consider re-entry around 130. |
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 7 2012, 11:31 AM) it looks like its not paying its supplier, this type of company can ah.. Looks like a gangster company hor. |
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 7 2012, 11:31 AM) it looks like its not paying its supplier, this type of company can ah.. Ada masuk 'jail'? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 7 2012, 11:42 AM) Ada masuk 'jail'? No, dont like jail.. today tikam anything early morning also make money.. This post has been edited by magika: Sep 7 2012, 11:46 AM |
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 7 2012, 11:43 AM) No, dont like jail.. Joker lah you. Today is a nice day. |
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This news overshadowed by ECB ?
by Reuters on Friday, 07 September 2012 02:56 (Sept 7): Shanghai shares extended gains on Friday, rising more than 2 percent by mid-morning after the state-run China Securities Journal reported that regulators had approved 30 infrastructure projects. The machinery sector was among the top performers, with Sany Heavy Industry up almost 7 percent and Taiyuan Heavy up almost 10 percent at 0236 GMT. The Shanghai Composite Index was up 2.02 percent, while the CSI300 Index of the top Shanghai and Shenzhen listings was up 2.51 percent. - Reuters |
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The focus has shifted to Japan , will be running out of moolah by November...
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 7 2012, 11:19 AM) As far as I know, bond buying is not going to solve continously serious budget deficit issue, it just temporarily solve funding or refinancing of matured bond at lower rate, instead at unsustainable interest rate. True. But on the other hand, cutting debt is really not an easy job. Look at the Euro countries now, people are on the street. The instability of the country cannot do any help to its rebuild of economy. And debt interest is hanging them, no matter how luxury they are and have been, they(or to say, their citizens) still need times to adjust themselves. Need to give them time. Say we, normal office workers, easily spend $10 for one meal nowadays. If want them to spend just $3 per meal, can they survive? Of course they can, can fat also. But can they accept it just because the government "requested" them to do so? I don't think so. They will be on the street "fighting for their rights". People are confused nowadays? No, they are not. They know what they are doing. But they are greedy. They have been trained to be greedy, either by the government, or the reality of the society. Those who has a good mind, are very rare. Added on September 7, 2012, 12:26 pm QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 7 2012, 11:28 AM) Ya, Some kind of solutions are always better than no solution at all. I just met an American friend who's very angry for Romney's aggressive speech that put America as super Empire country where all other countries (especially China) are losers etc. This is Romney, the fake joker. If he won, can start selling all US shares already, sure die. Just like Bill Clinton said, US problems are accumulated over the decades, whoever ( Republicans ) claims can solve the problems " fast" is more or less telling lies. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 7 2012, 12:26 PM |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 12:23 PM) True. But on the other hand, cutting debt is really not an easy job. Look at the Euro countries now, people are on the street. The instability of the country cannot do any help to its rebuild of economy. And debt interest is hanging them, no matter how luxury they are and have been, they(or to say, their citizens) still need times to adjust themselves. Need to give them time. Say we, normal office workers, easily spend $10 for one meal nowadays. If want them to spend just $3 per meal, can they survive? Of course they can, can fat also. But can they accept it just because the government "requested" them to do so? I don't think so. They will be on the street "fighting for their rights". People are confused nowadays? No, they are not. They know what they are doing. But they are greedy. They have been trained to be greedy, either by the government, or the reality of the society. Those who has a good mind, are very rare. Well Said, Added on September 7, 2012, 12:26 pm I just met an American friend who's very angry for Romney's aggressive speech that put America as super Empire country where all other countries (especially China) are losers etc. This is Romney, the fake joker. If he won, can start selling all US shares already, sure die. In fact , US Debts doubled and tripped during GOP times before Clinton took over to cut down a bit. Now , GOP wants to create the thinking that Obama created all the debt issues for Americans. China pump prime also incidentally planned with ( Mrs ) Clinton 's visit " Shanghai shares extended gains on Friday, rising more than 2 percent by mid-morning after the state-run China Securities Journal reported that regulators had approved 30 infrastructure projects." This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 7 2012, 12:38 PM |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 12:23 PM) True. But on the other hand, cutting debt is really not an easy job. Look at the Euro countries now, people are on the street. The instability of the country cannot do any help to its rebuild of economy. And debt interest is hanging them, no matter how luxury they are and have been, they(or to say, their citizens) still need times to adjust themselves. Need to give them time. Say we, normal office workers, easily spend $10 for one meal nowadays. If want them to spend just $3 per meal, can they survive? Of course they can, can fat also. But can they accept it just because the government "requested" them to do so? I don't think so. They will be on the street "fighting for their rights". People are confused nowadays? No, they are not. They know what they are doing. But they are greedy. They have been trained to be greedy, either by the government, or the reality of the society. Those who has a good mind, are very rare. Not to say they are greedy, it's just that behavioral change is always not easy For the ordinary people, why would they want to live below their means and adjust their current lifestyle to help the government cutting the deficits whilst this whole problem is caused by government's mismanagement? If the same thing happen in Malaysia (which I think will happen sooner or later with the ballooning deficits) would you think the reaction from the people on street will be the same? QUOTE(yok70 @ September 7, 2012, 12:26 pm) I just met an American friend who's very angry for Romney's aggressive speech that put America as super Empire country where all other countries (especially China) are losers etc. This is Romney, the fake joker. If he won, can start selling all US shares already, sure die. he's well known for 'talking the not suitable thing at not suitable situation' This post has been edited by robinlim: Sep 7 2012, 12:44 PM |
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QUOTE(robinlim @ Sep 7 2012, 12:43 PM) Not to say they are greedy, it's just that behavioral change is always not easy Cannot just blame the government. If they don't like the government, they can vote against it and change government. They voted for the government because they like what they get, the luxury lifestyle. Euro is not like China which citizen has no option to vote. For the ordinary people, why would they want to live below their means and adjust their current lifestyle to help the government cutting the deficits whilst this whole problem is caused by government's mismanagement? If the same thing happen in Malaysia (which I think will happen sooner or later with the ballooning deficits) would you think the reaction from the people on street will be the same? And I'm not saying Euro people are greedy, I am saying ALL PEOPLE in the world nowadays are greedy, because of the nature of our society. Added on September 7, 2012, 1:17 pmToday has 2,539,800 CMMT shares listed as management fees payment at price of 1.604. Looks like may expect some selling down in coming days.... This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 7 2012, 01:17 PM |
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This is interesting. So soon airplane no need use crude oil anymore?
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Sep 7 2012, 01:27 PM
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Lets see what Maybank said regarding ECB case.
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QUOTE(robinlim @ Sep 7 2012, 12:43 PM) Romney is just a joker, always become the laughing stock Romney is branded vulture capitalist by his (Republican) critics he's well known for 'talking the not suitable thing at not suitable situation' Then again, there are plenty of stupid American voters who support him |
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Malaysia Julytrade surplus at 10 year low.
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Sep 7 2012, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 01:19 PM) This is interesting. So soon airplane no need use crude oil anymore? But the report says jatropha needs dry weather. So it is not suitable for Malaysian climate? Another candidate for biofuel is algae. Here is something about it... Although algae produces some carbon dioxide when burned, unlike fossil fuels, it's carbon dioxide that the algae take in while they are growing. This is great, because when algae farms grow huge lakes and vats of algae to be turned into biofuels, they actually suck the greenhouse gas out of the air. Algae has many other benefits. Unlike corn for ethanol or soybeans for biodiesel, algae can be cultivated in ponds or even tubes in a fluid containing vitamins, minerals and everything else it needs to grow — it doesn't need soil or fresh water to grow. Huge vats of algae can produce more energy per hectare than any land crop can. http://www.businessinsider.com/how-algae-c...ure-2012-7?op=1 |
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 7 2012, 02:03 PM) Malaysia Julytrade surplus at 10 year low. Sell more buy much more? |
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 7 2012, 02:16 PM) But the report says jatropha needs dry weather. So it is not suitable for Malaysian climate? Ya, not Malaysia. But Malaysia companies can do business in other countries too. According to the paper, Genting Plantations has started investment on it. Another candidate for biofuel is algae. Here is something about it... Although algae produces some carbon dioxide when burned, unlike fossil fuels, it's carbon dioxide that the algae take in while they are growing. This is great, because when algae farms grow huge lakes and vats of algae to be turned into biofuels, they actually suck the greenhouse gas out of the air. Algae has many other benefits. Unlike corn for ethanol or soybeans for biodiesel, algae can be cultivated in ponds or even tubes in a fluid containing vitamins, minerals and everything else it needs to grow — it doesn't need soil or fresh water to grow. Huge vats of algae can produce more energy per hectare than any land crop can. http://www.businessinsider.com/how-algae-c...ure-2012-7?op=1 Green is the future, definitely. I imagine 10 years later, the world will be quite different from now. Well, another 100 years, Doraemon will born. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 7 2012, 02:25 PM |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 02:24 PM) Ya, not Malaysia. But Malaysia companies can do business in other countries too. According to the paper, Genting Plantations has started investment on it. Support Cypark Green is the future, definitely. I imagine 10 years later, the world will be quite different from now. Well, another 100 years, Doraemon will born. |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 02:24 PM) Ya, not Malaysia. But Malaysia companies can do business in other countries too. According to the paper, Genting Plantations has started investment on it. Maybe later , Govt allows TNB to collect more money from the Rakyat by billing some extras Green is the future, definitely. I imagine 10 years later, the world will be quite different from now. Well, another 100 years, Doraemon will born. |
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Although I sold all my Bonia last week, I still receive the MGO offer post to me. I don't need to care about it, but I'd like to learn.
It said, "NOTICE OF UNCONDITIONAL MANDATORY TAKE-OVER OFFER DATED 28 AUGUST 2012". The offer price is 2.04. I'm still not sure how this thing works. Can any sifu please teach me? 1. Is it a MUST that all shareholders MUST sell their shares to them? 2. What's the difference between this one and the previous Spsetia offer? If I remember correctly, every shareholder MUST sell their shares to them on that one, was it? Thanks! Added on September 7, 2012, 2:33 pm QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 7 2012, 02:26 PM) Support Cypark Here, we only have Cypark. I hope the management won't let me down, since there's no track record on their performance. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 7 2012, 02:33 PM |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 02:32 PM) Although I sold all my Bonia last week, I still receive the MGO offer post to me. I don't need to care about it, but I'd like to learn. It is just an offer to buy from u only, cannot actually force u to sell . It said, "NOTICE OF UNCONDITIONAL MANDATORY TAKE-OVER OFFER DATED 28 AUGUST 2012". The offer price is 2.04. I'm still not sure how this thing works. Can any sifu please teach me? 1. Is it a MUST that all shareholders MUST sell their shares to them? 2. What's the difference between this one and the previous Spsetia offer? If I remember correctly, every shareholder MUST sell their shares to them on that one, was it? Thanks! But if u do not sell, later u may end up as a " private" shareholder when it is de listed. Minority right could be a real issue. |
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 7 2012, 02:36 PM) It is just an offer to buy from u only, cannot actually force u to sell . Oh. So any MGO does the same? Same thing to last time Spsetia MGO offer? Thanks! But if u do not sell, later u may end up as a " private" shareholder when it is de listed. Minority right could be a real issue. |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 02:38 PM) Oh. So any MGO does the same? Same thing to last time Spsetia MGO offer? Thanks! U know what , Singapore MGO starts at 30% ( could be Ang Mo standard ) , so E & O case could be judged diff in Singapore. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 7 2012, 02:45 PM |
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 7 2012, 02:44 PM) U know what , Singapore MGO starts at 30% ( could be Ang Mo standard ) , so E & O case could be judged diff in Singapore. Then good for me. But I guess they still need to refer to local rules lah. |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 02:50 PM) Then good for me. Well, what about the big bang cross listing and so on. But I guess they still need to refer to local rules lah. |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 02:32 PM) Here, we only have Cypark. I hope the management won't let me down, since there's no track record on their performance. Compugates provides solar power solutions...But a note of caution: In the last few years, the price of solar panels drop drastically. Chinese manufacturers, subsidized by their government, sell products at cut-throat price. That is a good news for consumers and installers, but bad news for non-Chinese solar panel makers. So if you want to invest, put your money in the companies which use the solar panels. |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 12:57 PM) Cannot just blame the government. If they don't like the government, they can vote against it and change government. They voted for the government because they like what they get, the luxury lifestyle. Euro is not like China which citizen has no option to vote. trueAnd I'm not saying Euro people are greedy, I am saying ALL PEOPLE in the world nowadays are greedy, because of the nature of our society. it's always people nature that they select the ones that take care them well Added on September 7, 2012, 3:00 pm QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 7 2012, 02:01 PM) Romney is branded vulture capitalist by his (Republican) critics Support for the sake of anti-Obama / anti-democrats Then again, there are plenty of stupid American voters who support him same like bolehland This post has been edited by robinlim: Sep 7 2012, 03:00 PM |
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 7 2012, 02:55 PM) Well, what about the big bang cross listing and so on. true. sooner or later, all unite. |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 02:32 PM) Although I sold all my Bonia last week, I still receive the MGO offer post to me. I don't need to care about it, but I'd like to learn. The only difference is SPSetia is 'CONDITIONAL' It said, "NOTICE OF UNCONDITIONAL MANDATORY TAKE-OVER OFFER DATED 28 AUGUST 2012". The offer price is 2.04. I'm still not sure how this thing works. Can any sifu please teach me? 1. Is it a MUST that all shareholders MUST sell their shares to them? 2. What's the difference between this one and the previous Spsetia offer? If I remember correctly, every shareholder MUST sell their shares to them on that one, was it? Thanks! Bonia is 'UNCONDITIONAL' At RM2.04, sure kena cursed by hell SPSetia was offered with premium, PNB still kena cursed like hell |
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 7 2012, 02:56 PM) Compugates provides solar power solutions... So business of the future doesn't mean profitable. As risk concern, any business in China has higher risk. It's difficult to play in China. PPB recently also announced that they decided not to go for China's cinema business although growth is huge but "competition is tough"....that's a nice way of putting it. But a note of caution: In the last few years, the price of solar panels drop drastically. Chinese manufacturers, subsidized by their government, sell products at cut-throat price. That is a good news for consumers and installers, but bad news for non-Chinese solar panel makers. So if you want to invest, put your money in the companies which use the solar panels. |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 02:32 PM) Although I sold all my Bonia last week, I still receive the MGO offer post to me. I don't need to care about it, but I'd like to learn. Nolah... we still living in a free country, you can still hold that if you want to... but if they hit the threshold can delist the company, then you will have big trouble... It said, "NOTICE OF UNCONDITIONAL MANDATORY TAKE-OVER OFFER DATED 28 AUGUST 2012". The offer price is 2.04. I'm still not sure how this thing works. Can any sifu please teach me? 1. Is it a MUST that all shareholders MUST sell their shares to them? 2. What's the difference between this one and the previous Spsetia offer? If I remember correctly, every shareholder MUST sell their shares to them on that one, was it? Thanks! Added on September 7, 2012, 2:33 pm Here, we only have Cypark. I hope the management won't let me down, since there's no track record on their performance. |
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Sep 7 2012, 03:08 PM
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out of jail counter not bad , r u in ? |
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Sep 7 2012, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Sep 7 2012, 03:07 PM) Nolah... we still living in a free country, you can still hold that if you want to... but if they hit the threshold can delist the company, then you will have big trouble... well , some forumers do like the no sell keyboard, so hard to ask them to sell sometimes.After de lsiting, then no need to look for sell button liao. |
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Sep 7 2012, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 7 2012, 03:08 PM) Boon3 out of jail counter not bad , r u in ? Just now you say you no like jail. Scomi not that bad also. Yesterday bouncing at 285 only. |
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Sep 7 2012, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 7 2012, 03:13 PM) Just now you say you no like jail. Scomi not that bad also. Yesterday bouncing at 285 only. |
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Sep 7 2012, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 7 2012, 03:28 PM) The push has to do with its W ( expiring soon ) Could be. This was a 'fast' trade for me. Just sold already.I was seduced by its movement. Yesterday fall was like a big angpow for me. |
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Sep 7 2012, 03:43 PM
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dont like market direction now
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Sep 7 2012, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 7 2012, 03:09 PM) well , some forumers do like the no sell keyboard, so hard to ask them to sell sometimes. Yeah, peace of minds then... After de lsiting, then no need to look for sell button liao. |
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Sep 7 2012, 04:05 PM
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wow! HK almost up 600 pts! futures players earned gaw gaw!!
anyone know how HK futures like? I know KLCI futures every 1 pt is RM50? Added on September 7, 2012, 4:10 pmitrade said "system under maintenance". Are you kidding me?? This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 7 2012, 04:10 PM |
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Sep 7 2012, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 6 2012, 11:27 PM) Do u think Germany would gladly lend more to ECB? Germans have no choice... 99.99% german court will approve the ESM... or maybe they are trying to utilize fund available in EFSF the bull might hibernate by early next year if it goes at this juncture, imo, ECB,FED will continue to accommodate the mkt.. the one that will burst the buBble should be one of the countries... see who cannot "tahan" first... and surrender... EFSF is down to only about 250B Euro.. Spain and Italy combined may still need 700B of bailout money.... so if they dun approve ESM... kekekeke can see some panic selling again.. Germans wont do that... they'll make the hole deeper.. so... 5-6 years from now.. the crisis will be bigger.. thats all.. |
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Sep 7 2012, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 7 2012, 10:10 AM) Still holding your Axiata? I'm impress with their latest quarter result and of course the latest 8 cent dividend yup and comtemplating/eyeing on Digi... the results... yes pretty impressed too. knowing how jamal runs the biz, and attracting talents in various areas... |
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Sep 7 2012, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 7 2012, 10:39 AM) I wonder whether the ECB bond buying programme that result in huge market bull will last or not. after searching on the net for a while...I still do not quite understand how to "sterilise" the money of bond buying. Unlimited purchase? Wow, means country can still continue issue bond to fund the budget deficit? After all ECB will buy? Like a open "water tap" that unlimited? i find out that sterilized bond buying is something like operation twist... (from another angmoh forum) but how can they make it "Unlimited" ???? cant be that they have unlimited things to sell... |
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Sep 7 2012, 05:03 PM
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seems like epf keep withdrawing money in sharemarket..
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Sep 7 2012, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 7 2012, 04:27 PM) Germans have no choice... 99.99% german court will approve the ESM... moppy master you really very geng! always able to summarize nicely! at this juncture, imo, ECB,FED will continue to accommodate the mkt.. the one that will burst the buBble should be one of the countries... see who cannot "tahan" first... and surrender... EFSF is down to only about 250B Euro.. Spain and Italy combined may still need 700B of bailout money.... so if they dun approve ESM... kekekeke can see some panic selling again.. Germans wont do that... they'll make the hole deeper.. so... 5-6 years from now.. the crisis will be bigger.. thats all.. although my economy knowledge is too poor to really comprehend your opinion, but the "answer" seems very....entertaining and got a little direction for me. Not about correct or wrong, just about one kind of input for a rough idea on what's happening around the world. thank you very much lah! moppy index rocks!  |
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Sep 7 2012, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 7 2012, 05:03 PM) moppy master you really very geng! always able to summarize nicely! +1 to moppy index too! Short and simple, woot woot! although my economy knowledge is too poor to really comprehend your opinion, but the "answer" seems very....entertaining and got a little direction for me. Not about correct or wrong, just about one kind of input for a rough idea on what's happening around the world. thank you very much lah! moppy index rocks! |
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Sep 7 2012, 05:20 PM
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But hope Moppy Index to be more consistently published, then one off .
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Sep 7 2012, 06:17 PM
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TGIF!
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Sep 7 2012, 08:05 PM
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Maybank 5th DRIP plan....
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Sep 7 2012, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(john123x @ Sep 7 2012, 09:05 PM) Maybank 5th DRIP plan.... actually what is that can explain more? something like dividend ? |
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Sep 7 2012, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Sep 7 2012, 08:13 PM) actually what is that can explain more? something like dividend ? DRIP stands for dividend Reinvestment Plan.basically, you can have a large portion of entitled dividend given to you in shares. Info from http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1060301 Extracted Info: 1. Interim Cash Dividend in which an electable portion of RM0.28 (RM0.21 net of taxation) per Maybank Share held can be elected to be reinvested into new Maybank Shares and the remaining portion of RM0.04 (RM0.03 net of taxation) per Maybank Share will be paid in cash. 2. (“Price Fixing Date”) at RM8.40 per new Maybank Share example: if you have 1000 maybank shares. You will get 25 extra maybank shares as dividend. 1000x0.21 / 8.40 = 25 |
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Sep 7 2012, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(john123x @ Sep 7 2012, 09:18 PM) DRIP stands for dividend Reinvestment Plan. oh noted yah basically, you can have a large portion of entitled dividend given to you in shares. Info from http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1060301 Extracted Info: 1. Interim Cash Dividend in which an electable portion of RM0.28 (RM0.21 net of taxation) per Maybank Share held can be elected to be reinvested into new Maybank Shares and the remaining portion of RM0.04 (RM0.03 net of taxation) per Maybank Share will be paid in cash. 2. (“Price Fixing Date”) at RM8.40 per new Maybank Share example: if you have 1000 maybank shares. You will get 25 extra maybank shares as dividend. 1000x0.21 / 8.40 = 25 |
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Sep 7 2012, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(john123x @ Sep 7 2012, 08:18 PM) DRIP stands for dividend Reinvestment Plan. May I ask, for DRIP, is there a transaction cost or brokerage fee for the share you receive?basically, you can have a large portion of entitled dividend given to you in shares. Info from http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1060301 Extracted Info: 1. Interim Cash Dividend in which an electable portion of RM0.28 (RM0.21 net of taxation) per Maybank Share held can be elected to be reinvested into new Maybank Shares and the remaining portion of RM0.04 (RM0.03 net of taxation) per Maybank Share will be paid in cash. 2. (“Price Fixing Date”) at RM8.40 per new Maybank Share example: if you have 1000 maybank shares. You will get 25 extra maybank shares as dividend. 1000x0.21 / 8.40 = 25 |
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Sep 7 2012, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Sep 7 2012, 08:45 PM) May I ask, for DRIP, is there a transaction cost or brokerage fee for the share you receive? only RM10 stamp Hasil (get from Post Office) to affix on the DRIP form |
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Sep 7 2012, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(john123x @ Sep 7 2012, 08:47 PM) only RM10 stamp Hasil (get from Post Office) to affix on the DRIP form You mean you have to fill in the DRIP form everytime there's a dividend? If one year 4 times dividend, then have to goto post office 4 times?I read that overseas there's no charges for issuing the dividend shares into your CDS account if you opt for DRIP. So, DRIP is better compared to taking the cash dividend and then buying the same stock because this will incur brokerage fee. |
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Sep 7 2012, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Sep 7 2012, 08:50 PM) You mean you have to fill in the DRIP form everytime there's a dividend? If one year 4 times dividend, then have to goto post office 4 times? yea, for Maybank DRP, must fill up DRP form, attach stamp hasil and post it...I read that overseas there's no charges for issuing the dividend shares into your CDS account if you opt for DRIP. So, DRIP is better compared to taking the cash dividend and then buying the same stock because this will incur brokerage fee. oversea different, Malaysia different. Another advantage is you get DRP shares at discounted pricing |
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Sep 7 2012, 09:45 PM
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neighbour got no additional charges one .......
be it stamp or brokerage ..... advantage to me .... |
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Sep 7 2012, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Sep 7 2012, 08:50 PM) You mean you have to fill in the DRIP form everytime there's a dividend? If one year 4 times dividend, then have to goto post office 4 times? 1 year 2 times only, anyway...I read that overseas there's no charges for issuing the dividend shares into your CDS account if you opt for DRIP. So, DRIP is better compared to taking the cash dividend and then buying the same stock because this will incur brokerage fee. |
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Sep 8 2012, 01:45 AM
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US job numbers are real bad. QE3 is coming, maybe as early as next week, when the Fed meets. I won't bother to write a long post, but Obama and Democrats are no better than GOP. But yes, Clinton is probably the best US president in recent times. People who have the right ideas and are straight talkers, like Ron Paul, are always unpopular among the majority. Oh yeah, one of my banks jumped 6% today. |
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Sep 8 2012, 07:17 AM
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Guys..any comments on wct bhd?
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Sep 8 2012, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 7 2012, 10:39 AM) I wonder whether the ECB bond buying programme that result in huge market bull will last or not. I think it work like QE.I still do not quite understand how to "sterilise" the money of bond buying. Unlimited purchase? Wow, means country can still continue issue bond to fund the budget deficit? After all ECB will buy? Like a open "water tap" that unlimited? It's just another form of inject liquidity into the market. The drawback is depreciation of Euro I guess.  |
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Sep 8 2012, 11:58 PM
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Print Print Print
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Sep 9 2012, 09:29 AM
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how come armada shares gap down previously 2days???
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Sep 9 2012, 11:11 PM
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IF QE3 goes through, expect a certain time in the future where the GFC will be much much and much worse than the one that happened in 2010/11.
US dollar will be so sucky and they pull the whole word down with them. Printing money will NOT help anything substantial. They are just printing money from basically NOTHING. The money paper bill is worthless. Im expecting to invest in commodities or best, metals i.e gold. I could stock up Chinese RMB as they are the real new world power. My 200 ringgit. |
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Sep 10 2012, 12:24 AM
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Once money start to print, then hit it on the Gold, is always a good choice when you don't know what choice you got.
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Sep 10 2012, 12:45 AM
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Too bad we don't have any gold ETF in local market. Buying gold from banks charged very high fees, i think 5% or something, and then the gap between buy/sell price also quite big.
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Sep 10 2012, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Sep 9 2012, 11:11 PM) IF QE3 goes through, expect a certain time in the future where the GFC will be much much and much worse than the one that happened in 2010/11. dont bet on the commie currency.US dollar will be so sucky and they pull the whole word down with them. Printing money will NOT help anything substantial. They are just printing money from basically NOTHING. The money paper bill is worthless. Im expecting to invest in commodities or best, metals i.e gold. I could stock up Chinese RMB as they are the real new world power. My 200 ringgit. i have read in an article, where "soon going to be retired leaders" always worried whether himself and his family members will be prosecuted (maybe executed) after retiring. I cant find ways to convince me that this kind of country's currency is sustainable.... and freedom of speech is seriously suppressed in china. If you start a demonstration whatsoever, you wil be be executed, no question asked.... and i am sure recently i read bout china canceling settlement of forex settlements and banning few hundred brokers, just because the outgoing amount currency out of the country are too much. what about those loses suffered by those forex brokers.......who going to compensate them.... |
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Sep 10 2012, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 10 2012, 12:45 AM) Too bad we don't have any gold ETF in local market. Buying gold from banks charged very high fees, i think 5% or something, and then the gap between buy/sell price also quite big. that's why a lot buy in sgp ... |
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Sep 10 2012, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 10 2012, 12:45 AM) Too bad we don't have any gold ETF in local market. Buying gold from banks charged very high fees, i think 5% or something, and then the gap between buy/sell price also quite big. Buy Tomei, PohKong |
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Sep 10 2012, 10:13 AM
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CSL dropped to RM1.07 can go in?
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Sep 10 2012, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Sep 10 2012, 10:13 AM) CSL dropped to RM1.07 can go in? Just ex warrant leh... but 1.07 should be quite a good entry... |
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Sep 10 2012, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 10 2012, 12:45 AM) Too bad we don't have any gold ETF in local market. Buying gold from banks charged very high fees, i think 5% or something, and then the gap between buy/sell price also quite big. The gap between buy/sell price is already the commission. I don't remember paying additional fees to buy gold, at least from Maybank. |
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Sep 10 2012, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Sep 9 2012, 11:11 PM) IF QE3 goes through, expect a certain time in the future where the GFC will be much much and much worse than the one that happened in 2010/11. Chinese RMB may have its own problem eg. economy slowdown, inflationary pressure, real estate problem.US dollar will be so sucky and they pull the whole word down with them. Printing money will NOT help anything substantial. They are just printing money from basically NOTHING. The money paper bill is worthless. Im expecting to invest in commodities or best, metals i.e gold. I could stock up Chinese RMB as they are the real new world power. My 200 ringgit. Bare in mind, China economy has never a recession since its booming, and economy system, leverage problem/issue has never being "tested" during a recession. We know, an economy is impossible to be booming non-stop and without a recession over the long term. Although China economy and RMB future look rosy and promising, RMB is not (or yet) an worldwide international settlement currency. A lot of world trade out there still USD settlement domination. Added on September 10, 2012, 10:33 amI heard a lot of promising speak/talk from UT selling agent during China stock market booming time, as well as lot of China related UT launching around 2007, that China is the next world economy power, so they said good to invest in China related stock/stock market, bright future, blar blar, then the rest is history. This post has been edited by cherroy: Sep 10 2012, 10:34 AM |
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Sep 10 2012, 10:46 AM
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skpetro trading halted. something is going on
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Sep 10 2012, 10:56 AM
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today thread is super slow
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Sep 10 2012, 10:57 AM
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Jcy plunge again. Like this up down up down manyak untung. Feel like wanna enter again.
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Sep 10 2012, 11:06 AM
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Hmm, HLE fail to display warrants information.
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Sep 10 2012, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 10 2012, 11:06 AM) Hmm, HLE fail to display warrants information. what do u wanna check?Added on September 10, 2012, 11:07 amdid anyone here receive the sms on ingens? This post has been edited by SmuffyJ: Sep 10 2012, 11:07 AM |
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Sep 10 2012, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(SmuffyJ @ Sep 10 2012, 11:07 AM) what do u wanna check? The maturity date of the following call warrants:Added on September 10, 2012, 11:07 amdid anyone here receive the sms on ingens? MBSB CC,CD,CF,CG,CH,CI,CJ,CK. I tried to locate the list of maturity date but the new bursa website is confusing. |
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Sep 10 2012, 11:13 AM
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hi guys,
if a company dividend state, EX 10/09/12, meaning today. so if i buy their today, will i be entitle to their div? sorry for this noob question, always get this confuse |
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Sep 10 2012, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Sep 10 2012, 11:13 AM) hi guys, sorry.Is u buy before ex date only entitle for their dividendif a company dividend state, EX 10/09/12, meaning today. so if i buy their today, will i be entitle to their div? sorry for this noob question, always get this confuse This post has been edited by wenqing: Sep 10 2012, 11:39 AM |
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Sep 10 2012, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Sep 10 2012, 11:13 AM) hi guys, no....only the seller still entitle to their div...if a company dividend state, EX 10/09/12, meaning today. so if i buy their today, will i be entitle to their div? sorry for this noob question, always get this confuse |
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Sep 10 2012, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 10 2012, 11:10 AM) The maturity date of the following call warrants: MBSB CALL WARRANTMBSB CC,CD,CF,CG,CH,CI,CJ,CK. I tried to locate the list of maturity date but the new bursa website is confusing. CC 10/9/2012 CD 16/11/2012 CF 23/11/2012 CG 29/3/2013 CH 8/3/2013 CI 10/5/2013 CJ 28/8/2013 CK 13/6/2013 |
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Sep 10 2012, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 10 2012, 11:10 AM) The maturity date of the following call warrants: CIMB MBSB-CB 1.500 2.00 30/08/2012MBSB CC,CD,CF,CG,CH,CI,CJ,CK. I tried to locate the list of maturity date but the new bursa website is confusing. OSK MBSB-CC 1.600 3.00 10/09/2012 MAYBANK MBSB-CD 1.680 3.00 16/11/2012 AMINVEST MBSB-CE 1.780 3.00 08/08/2012 OCBC MBSB-CF 2.350 3.00 23/11/2012 CIMB MBSB-CG 2.300 3.00 29/03/2013 AMINVEST MBSB-CH 2.280 3.00 08/03/2013 OSK MBSB-CI 2.200 3.00 10/05/2013 MBSB got HA also not to forget.. This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: Sep 10 2012, 11:49 AM |
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Sep 10 2012, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(Pan84 @ Sep 10 2012, 11:40 AM) MBSB CALL WARRANT Thank You CC 10/9/2012 CD 16/11/2012 CF 23/11/2012 CG 29/3/2013 CH 8/3/2013 CI 10/5/2013 CJ 28/8/2013 CK 13/6/2013 |
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Sep 10 2012, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 10 2012, 11:48 AM) Thank You Welcome. You are talking with kaki warrant. This post has been edited by Pan84: Sep 10 2012, 12:06 PM |
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Sep 10 2012, 12:42 PM
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Ouch
Kena burn playing penny stock Lost one Ipad liao |
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Sep 10 2012, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(SmuffyJ @ Sep 10 2012, 11:07 AM) what do u wanna check? what sms is that? Added on September 10, 2012, 11:07 amdid anyone here receive the sms on ingens? |
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Sep 10 2012, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Sep 10 2012, 12:24 AM) Once money start to print, then hit it on the Gold, is always a good choice when you don't know what choice you got. Yup, if QE3, I will hantam the gold.............simple and nearly guarantee |
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Sep 10 2012, 02:49 PM
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why maybank so active?..
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Sep 10 2012, 02:51 PM
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why LYN not active geh? .......
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Sep 10 2012, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Sep 10 2012, 02:51 PM) why LYN not active geh? ....... 3pm now, market volume lesser than 500m volume............... |
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Sep 10 2012, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Sep 10 2012, 02:51 PM) why LYN not active geh? ....... all ho;lding back for big purchase.. |
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Sep 10 2012, 03:00 PM
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Superman doing all the dirty work, market red..
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Sep 10 2012, 03:16 PM
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Looks like 1600 is coming...maybe GE is really coming this time....
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Sep 10 2012, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 10 2012, 03:16 PM) Looks like 1600 is coming...maybe GE is really coming this time.... anytime now..prepare all bullets i guess? hope i dun miss the boat.. 5 years once.. |
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Sep 10 2012, 03:41 PM
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hahaha, good time to buy when nobody dunwan? but my funds limited so need to change a bit strategy .....
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Sep 10 2012, 03:43 PM
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all dropping non-stop.. in my list bjcorp already drop >30%
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Sep 10 2012, 03:56 PM
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No pre-budget rally?
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Sep 10 2012, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Sep 10 2012, 03:56 PM) No pre-budget rally? When is the date? |
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Sep 10 2012, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Sep 10 2012, 03:41 PM) hahaha, good time to buy when nobody dunwan? but my funds limited so need to change a bit strategy ..... may sell part of reits to buy deep discount stocks. that's my strategy actually, that's why i keep accumulating reits recently. Already 50% in reits now. Added on September 10, 2012, 4:02 pm QUOTE(avatar123 @ Sep 10 2012, 03:58 PM) When is the date? nobody knows, maybe even ajib also dunno. some said next month, some said next year. Added on September 10, 2012, 4:05 pm QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Sep 10 2012, 03:56 PM) No pre-budget rally? i also waiting until neck also long already. some of my lower lines stocks already 52 weeks low now. Are they bottom already? i dunno, and i doubt so. more to come i guess. 1600 is suppose to be a strong support, but i am guessing it may drop below it, maybe until 1550? wondering what will happen if QE3 really comes. Full of uncertainty. Added on September 10, 2012, 4:06 pmEuro starts red. China at mild green. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 10 2012, 04:06 PM |
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Sep 10 2012, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 10 2012, 04:01 PM) may sell part of reits to buy deep discount stocks. that's my strategy actually, that's why i keep accumulating reits recently. Already 50% in reits now. good strategy but am doing it for nearly 2 years already still searching ......... |
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Sep 10 2012, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 10 2012, 04:01 PM) i also waiting until neck also long already. some of my lower lines stocks already 52 weeks low now. Are they bottom already? i dunno, and i doubt so. more to come i guess. 1600 is suppose to be a strong support, but i am guessing it may drop below it, maybe until 1550? If it doesnt perform in bull market, doubt it will run in bear market, tho wondering what will happen if QE3 really comes. Full of uncertainty. |
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Sep 10 2012, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 10 2012, 04:18 PM) If it doesnt perform in bull market, doubt it will run in bear market, tho the cheap is getting cheaper now! damn, need to stock up more mopiko, otherwise my hands.... |
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Sep 10 2012, 04:58 PM
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got bad news on property tax etc etc? all property counter Monkeyland Tuttutland lausai 99lat....
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Sep 10 2012, 05:02 PM
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Just in few weeks time, paper value already shrink 3%.....after this week will be another 2% due to div ex-dates.....then next week another 1-2%
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Sep 10 2012, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Sep 10 2012, 05:02 PM) Just in few weeks time, paper value already shrink 3%.....after this week will be another 2% due to div ex-dates.....then next week another 1-2% So sell now and prevent your portfolio from shrinking |
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Sep 10 2012, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(CP88 @ Sep 10 2012, 05:04 PM) So sell now and prevent your portfolio from shrinking I can only hope for it to remain status quo in spite of the global selldown. |
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Sep 10 2012, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Sep 10 2012, 05:02 PM) Just in few weeks time, paper value already shrink 3%.....after this week will be another 2% due to div ex-dates.....then next week another 1-2% guess GE effect maybe 15% shrinking? So now 3+2+2 = 7%, half way through. more to come. i guess lower liners reaching their 52 weeks low will increase. Added on September 10, 2012, 5:12 pm QUOTE(CP88 @ Sep 10 2012, 05:04 PM) So sell now and prevent your portfolio from shrinking if later QE3 comes and super bull then how? head hits wall already. that's why the sifus keep telling us to hold dividend stocks in uncertainty time. As long as their earnings can sustain, just close eyes and receive dividend. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 10 2012, 05:13 PM |
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Sep 10 2012, 05:14 PM
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keep bleeding.. keep keep bleeding KLSE.
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Sep 10 2012, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(j-insigh @ Sep 10 2012, 05:14 PM) keep bleeding.. keep keep bleeding KLSE. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on September 10, 2012, 5:29 pm QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 10 2012, 05:10 PM) if later QE3 comes and super bull then how? head hits wall already. Sell now = profit locked (gain), mini bull come you also no lose just that you earn less that's why the sifus keep telling us to hold dividend stocks in uncertainty time. As long as their earnings can sustain, just close eyes and receive dividend. . This post has been edited by CP88: Sep 10 2012, 05:29 PM |
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Sep 10 2012, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(CP88 @ Sep 10 2012, 05:22 PM) Sell now = profit locked (gain), mini bull come you also no lose just that you earn less Now is a strategy game. Hope both us can win, no loser. . |
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Sep 10 2012, 06:59 PM
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US's Citibank analyst said chance of QE3 = 99% |
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Sep 10 2012, 07:15 PM
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根据亚太运营商联盟（APCC）（www.asiapacificcarriers.org/）去年2010年6月14号的报告，在所有三个宽频科技的种类调查中，包括（leased lines、 Ethernet Access、DSL）马来西亚在这3个宽频科技的收费，皆是全亚太最昂贵的国家。
根据Ethernet科技调查指出，亚太区国家或区域的5个宽频速度配套里，当中马来西亚的4个配套，竟然是全亚太最贵的！调查报告包含了亚太14个国家及区域，澳洲、纽西兰、中国、菲律宾、香港、新加坡、印尼、韩国、印度、台湾、日本、泰国、马来西亚、越南。而香港宽频在这个报告中是全亚太最低收费的地区。 慢且收费昂贵 另外一个调查报告中，是这样写的：“马来西亚的宽带速度，与其他亚洲国家相比之下，是出了名的慢，而且服务收费昂贵。这些都是加剧了马来西亚宽频用户的成长缓慢的因素。”大马人民，不需看这个报告也知道这事实，并且感同身受。 曾经我与日本、台湾、韩国、澳洲等的顾客会面时，有意或无意中都会问及，马来西亚宽频和他们的设施比较起来如何？得到的答案都是一致的。稍微客气的的客户会说：“差了一点，好像很慢。”直率一点的客户：“我可以感觉到那种想呸口水的感觉。” 其中有位客户给了我不可置信的眼神说：“原来宽频是会断线的喔！我今天才知道哩！”。当场，我愣了一下！ 台湾最大购物网的其中一位发起人，曾说了一句我至今难以释怀的话，他说：“十年前我来马来西亚，台湾的网络环境和马来西亚是一样的，十年后的今天我再度来到这个国家，结果其网络成长还是和十年前一样，你可知道台湾今天已经成长到哪个阶段了吗？” 我当然知道！我在做佳礼已经15年了！我肯定知道！身为马来西亚人，当我每次听到这类的评语时，心中都会燃起一把莫名的火！更由衷升起一种莫名的惭愧！莫名的羞耻！十年前的马来西亚还可以骄傲的说我们的上网费是全亚洲最低的。十年后的今天居然是最贵的！ 缺的只是上网的机会 全世界都在运用网际网路发展未来，国家与国家的竞争也开始由传统发展到网络的运用，这些都是由劳力发展到科技与脑力的使用。 国家的竞争能力是所有人民智慧的总和，人民的智慧进步需要网络的帮助，全世界的资讯与智慧如今都在网络上，人民缺的只是上网的机会。 上网的成本，决定了上网人数；大马上网人数，决定了大马网络的命脉。可是这个命脉，却是完全由一家完全以保护自家利益为主的电讯公司，死牢地牵制着。 一家电讯公司的利润，难道比一个国家的整体利益发展还重要吗？ 文：柳树吉 （佳礼论坛董事经理兼创办人 ） Bravo to Malaysia BOLEH!! Added on September 10, 2012, 7:17 pm QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Sep 10 2012, 06:59 PM) US's Citibank analyst said chance of QE3 = 99%This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 10 2012, 07:18 PM |
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Sep 10 2012, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 10 2012, 06:28 PM) Now is a strategy game. Hope both us can win, no loser. |
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Sep 10 2012, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Sep 10 2012, 06:59 PM) US's Citibank analyst said chance of QE3 = 99% |
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Sep 10 2012, 08:09 PM
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my counter -10%.
day by day slowly shrinking QE3 please come, GE please go away |
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Sep 10 2012, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 10 2012, 07:15 PM) 根据亚太运营商联盟（APCC）（www.asiapacificcarriers.org/）去年2010年6月14号的报告，在所有三个宽频科技的种类调查中，包括（leased lines、 Ethernet Access、DSL）马来西亚在这3个宽频科技的收费，皆是全亚太最昂贵的国家。 How about wireless broadband? Where does Malaysia stand?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Bravo to Malaysia BOLEH!! Added on September 10, 2012, 7:17 pm This post has been edited by river.sand: Sep 10 2012, 09:05 PM |
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Sep 10 2012, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Sep 10 2012, 06:59 PM) US's Citibank analyst said chance of QE3 = 99%Do they think in the longer future, there will be a financial crisis cause by the printing of money? too much paper bills going around already...lock on profits, then wait for the crumble. Najib - potential announcing in November 11th bah. |
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Sep 10 2012, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Sep 10 2012, 09:40 PM) Yes. Reasons simple: Obama heading to elections and to prevent a global recession, QE3 have to be done. Do they think in the longer future, there will be a financial crisis cause by the printing of money? too much paper bills going around already...lock on profits, then wait for the crumble. Najib - potential announcing in November 11th bah. Obama wont think longer future, just consider few more month election is enough............ future? you die you punya pasalthe main point of his opponent party said is jobless rate still high in US. |
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Sep 11 2012, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Sep 10 2012, 09:40 PM) Yes. Reasons simple: Obama heading to elections and to prevent a global recession, QE3 have to be done. The Fed is independent. It doesn't receive instruction from the White House, or Congress for that matter.Do they think in the longer future, there will be a financial crisis cause by the printing of money? too much paper bills going around already...lock on profits, then wait for the crumble. Najib - potential announcing in November 11th bah. |
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Sep 11 2012, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 11 2012, 08:38 AM) The Fed is independent. It doesn't receive instruction from the White House, or Congress for that matter. Three pillars of power also suppose cannot receive orders from which other, but in Msia parliament have the best power. Politics is always there. In a few days time, we will know. |
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Sep 11 2012, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Sep 10 2012, 09:40 PM) Yes. Reasons simple: Obama heading to elections and to prevent a global recession, QE3 have to be done. Uncle Ben is a supporter of GOP, why he would help Obama? Do they think in the longer future, there will be a financial crisis cause by the printing of money? too much paper bills going around already...lock on profits, then wait for the crumble. Najib - potential announcing in November 11th bah. If everybody is prepare for a crash in GE, it won't be so disasterrous as in year 2008, just my opinion  |
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Sep 11 2012, 09:57 AM
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foreign fund quitting Malaysia?
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Sep 11 2012, 10:20 AM
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all red today ... @.@
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Sep 11 2012, 10:25 AM
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7 Reasons why QE3 will not happen - by Seeking Alpha
1. Food and energy prices already high 2. The Fed will be out of credible bullets, QE4 will create hyperinflation 3. QE3 will cause severe questioning of the independence of the Federal Reserve 4. QE has no track record in causing any real GDP, real income, or job growth 5. The Fed owns too much of the long term Treasury market to make QE3 viable without eliminating bond market liquidity 6. Printing money has never historically created real wealth 7. QE has diminishing returns and may already be fully priced in by equity markets http://seekingalpha.com/article/858021-why...will-not-happen |
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Sep 11 2012, 10:29 AM
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red alert, i made -10% today, luckily not trading too much. better save money now... all negative, bluechip also
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Sep 11 2012, 10:39 AM
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back to 1600
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Sep 11 2012, 10:43 AM
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my MAS is still strong like stone..
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Sep 11 2012, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(SmuffyJ @ Sep 11 2012, 10:39 AM) back to 1600 Let's see will break 1600 or not |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:02 AM
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1550?
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Sep 11 2012, 11:05 AM
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1570+ is the next support line.
Hehe, can't wait. |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:07 AM
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panic selling going on..haha...
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Sep 11 2012, 11:22 AM
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I thought we are anticipating for this
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Sep 11 2012, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 11 2012, 08:38 AM) The Fed is independent. It doesn't receive instruction from the White House, or Congress for that matter. Really?WHO chooses the Fed Chair? |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:26 AM
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It's coming. And it's fact, much much faster than when it's up, as always.
My wild guess is one or a bit more of these sharp dropping days, consolidation will arrive. It cannot sharp drop too long, otherwise 1400 can come within this week already. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 11 2012, 11:28 AM |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:31 AM
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so red. CI from 1650 to 1600 in very short period. Anyway the volume is not high...........now 11.30am only traded 350m lot, its low GAB laosai |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 11 2012, 11:26 AM) It's coming. And it's fact, much much faster than when it's up, as always. So time to buy when 1400? My wild guess is one or a bit more of these sharp dropping days, consolidation will arrive. It cannot sharp drop too long, otherwise 1400 can come within this week already. |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(old_and_slow @ Sep 11 2012, 10:29 AM) red alert, i made -10% today, luckily not trading too much. better save money now... all negative, bluechip also 1 day drop 10%, you buy penny?Added on September 11, 2012, 11:33 am QUOTE(CP88 @ Sep 11 2012, 11:31 AM) So time to buy when 1400? thats time no guts to buy liaoThis post has been edited by StupidGuyPlayComp: Sep 11 2012, 11:33 AM |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 11 2012, 11:26 AM) It's coming. And it's fact, much much faster than when it's up, as always. Not even one green counter to lift CI up. All red army My wild guess is one or a bit more of these sharp dropping days, consolidation will arrive. It cannot sharp drop too long, otherwise 1400 can come within this week already. I always like to use Maybank as an indicator. Perhaps the correction will stop if Maybank is below RM 9. |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 11 2012, 11:35 AM) Not even one green counter to lift CI up. All red army Nowadays using MBB as taikor instead of ah jib bank ar I always like to use Maybank as an indicator. Perhaps the correction will stop if Maybank is below RM 9. |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(CP88 @ Sep 11 2012, 11:37 AM) Nowadays using MBB as taikor instead of ah jib bank ar CIMB respond too slow. I remember we make a good recovery with Maybank leading first only to be followed by CIMB few days later. |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:54 AM
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Sep 11 2012, 11:58 AM
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Again, my fav song. Keep bleeding... Keep keep bleeding KlSE
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Sep 11 2012, 12:00 PM
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Another red hot day, is anybody ready with their elephant gun?
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Sep 11 2012, 12:01 PM
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maih.. finance still among top losers
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Sep 11 2012, 12:06 PM
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FGV laosai
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Sep 11 2012, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 11 2012, 10:43 AM) my MAS is still strong like stone.. when u said that i'm swayed to look into MAS too....however..... Added on September 11, 2012, 12:11 pm QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 11 2012, 12:00 PM) Another red hot day, is anybody ready with their elephant gun? with this uncertainty, nobody does..... all at the sideline, including me This post has been edited by nasni: Sep 11 2012, 12:12 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 12:13 PM
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Still queing for my prefer price..
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Sep 11 2012, 12:19 PM
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think everyone jus waiting to drop further
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Sep 11 2012, 12:22 PM
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hi, wonder if got buddy here waited so long for this bloodshed?
Keep bleeding till next month? |
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Sep 11 2012, 12:26 PM
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eyeing entry price for fav counters
when everyone talks about drop guess is time to buy some |
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Sep 11 2012, 12:31 PM
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it is good to buy and hold for MAS.. as you see CI dropping.. but MAS is still in a very very strong support.. hahaha if you buy MAS-CG the winning will be 50% or lose also 50% lol..
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Sep 11 2012, 01:19 PM
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Me first time seeing all 30 KLCI counter red red one... No exception.
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Sep 11 2012, 01:21 PM
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MAS has formed triple bottom, break the lowest dy. to complete the formation, it should be on uptrend by then.
Added on September 11, 2012, 1:28 pm QUOTE(koinibler @ Sep 11 2012, 02:19 PM) Me first time seeing all 30 KLCI counter red red one... No exception. when US debt rating downgraded, every stock open with big gap downward and continue to rush down. This time CI looks like that but less sell down with no greater volume than before.This post has been edited by primepeng: Sep 11 2012, 01:28 PM |
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ppl use to say double bottom then rebound. Now triple bottom already. Accept the fact, there's more bottoms to come for MAS
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Sep 11 2012, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(primepeng @ Sep 11 2012, 01:21 PM) MAS has formed triple bottom, break the lowest dy. to complete the formation, it should be on uptrend by then. Formed triple bottom, break the lowest dy.? The last two bottoms were exactly on the money at 1.02. MAS 'broke' that low today. It touched 1.00 briefly before trading at low volumes to close at 1.01. The day(s) is still 'young', and we do not know yet if this 1.00-1.02 will hold. If it doesn't hold, then this bottom will be a much lower bottom. Can still call a triple bottom if this bottom is much lower? Another simple question. Why buy MAS now? Do you foresee MAS to return to profits soon? |
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Sep 11 2012, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(Jackieboy @ Sep 11 2012, 01:45 PM) ppl use to say double bottom then rebound. Now triple bottom already. Accept the fact, there's more bottoms to come for MAS Those who traded the double bottom formation in early Aug, has just experienced a failed double bottom of play by now, unless the traders were swift enough to exit at 1.10. |
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Sep 11 2012, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 11 2012, 12:00 PM) Another red hot day, is anybody ready with their elephant gun? My elephant gun is ready but the million dollar question is: Is this the right time to fire?Especially since I'm already 77% stocks/23% cash, which means my cash % is already lower than some fund managers like AA. Added on September 11, 2012, 1:58 pm QUOTE(SentulChin @ Sep 11 2012, 12:22 PM) hi, wonder if got buddy here waited so long for this bloodshed? Bloodshed is good news, even though I also bleed.Keep bleeding till next month? This post has been edited by Veda: Sep 11 2012, 01:58 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:47 PM) Formed triple bottom, break the lowest dy. if it rebounds above or below near 1.02, and uptrend. look at the support at 1.00. will rise soon? will it form triple bottom?? The last two bottoms were exactly on the money at 1.02. MAS 'broke' that low today. It touched 1.00 briefly before trading at low volumes to close at 1.01. The day(s) is still 'young', and we do not know yet if this 1.00-1.02 will hold. If it doesn't hold, then this bottom will be a much lower bottom. Can still call a triple bottom if this bottom is much lower? Another simple question. Why buy MAS now? Do you foresee MAS to return to profits soon? |
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Sep 11 2012, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(primepeng @ Sep 11 2012, 02:04 PM) if it rebounds above or below near 1.02, and uptrend. look at the support at 1.00. will rise soon? will it form triple bottom? The thing is you are basing it on 'IF'.IF it holds or rebounds around this price, then of course a triple bottom play is an 'option'. What if the current bottom forms at a much lower price? |
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Sep 11 2012, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 03:16 PM) The thing is you are basing it on 'IF'. then it's a double bottom. I was aware it break the bottom price. sentiment is not good enough for majority to buy to risk further downtrend despite a risky bet on the Fed meeting outcome i suppose.IF it holds or rebounds around this price, then of course a triple bottom play is an 'option'. What if the current bottom forms at a much lower price? This post has been edited by primepeng: Sep 11 2012, 02:59 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:16 PM) The thing is you are basing it on 'IF'. The amazing of TA is if u see triple bottoms and yet it is not the real bottom. IF it holds or rebounds around this price, then of course a triple bottom play is an 'option'. What if the current bottom forms at a much lower price? Like u hear news that QE 3 coming, and still not yet to be seen |
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Sep 11 2012, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(primepeng @ Sep 11 2012, 02:04 PM) if it rebounds above or below near 1.02, and uptrend. look at the support at 1.00. will rise soon? will it form triple bottom? for a TA player, we do not predict what is the chart going to be ...we just look at the previous history.. and setup our trading plan.. follow ur plan... |
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Sep 11 2012, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:40 PM) The amazing of TA is if u see triple bottoms and yet it is not the real bottom. QEs are bad for stocks meh? Like u hear news that QE 3 coming, and still not yet to be seen Looks like you have been busy. Busy making plans for next big KILLS? |
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Sep 11 2012, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:43 PM) QEs are bad for stocks meh? This year Budget News come very late. Looks like you have been busy. Busy making plans for next big KILLS? But some big incentives for houisng This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 11 2012, 02:49 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:47 PM) This year Budget News come very late. It's possible that the housing sector gets some big incentives.But some big incentives for houisng However, I am not keen about this sector at this moment. Property stocks seems fairly valued right now. Nothing excites me... yet. |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:05 PM
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I dun know how many bottom, but in term of psychology...........once it break 1.00, dangerous is coming. property counter, i only got glomac...........will consider top up if lower than 0.80, incoming financial report should be good (as hint by boss earlier). Unfortunately share price drop now |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:57 PM) It's possible that the housing sector gets some big incentives. My code 10 builds houses mah, but not a property stock.However, I am not keen about this sector at this moment. Property stocks seems fairly valued right now. Nothing excites me... yet. aka building houses for Govt , and who knows may get some contracts for the EPF/ Sg Buloh projects |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 11 2012, 03:05 PM) My code 10 builds houses mah, but not a property stock. Haha! aka building houses for Govt , and who knows may get some contracts for the EPF/ Sg Buloh projects Can I remind you that it's mine also. I also have a few shares. |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:16 PM
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JCY going up. Some support is coming in for market..
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Sep 11 2012, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Sep 11 2012, 03:05 PM) I dun know how many bottom, but in term of psychology...........once it break 1.00, dangerous is coming.property counter, i only got glomac...........will consider top up if lower than 0.80, incoming financial report should be good (as hint by boss earlier). Unfortunately share price drop now |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 11 2012, 03:16 PM) JCY going up. Some support is coming in for market.. JCY again? Horrors? Haha! You very cinta this stock. One day, how many times you whack this stock? |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 03:21 PM) JCY again? Horrors? Nolah trading only...dunno today can hedge a bet or not rainy season started Northern Thailand floodingHaha! You very cinta this stock. One day, how many times you whack this stock? support is coming in FGV normal, IHH almost normal.. This post has been edited by magika: Sep 11 2012, 03:24 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 11 2012, 03:23 PM) Nolah trading only...dunno today can hedge a bet or not Yea, slight improvement seen across the board. support is coming in FGV normal, IHH almost normal.. |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 03:24 PM) Yea, slight improvement seen across the board. looking at Gocean ha.haadunno know epf spend how much today This post has been edited by magika: Sep 11 2012, 03:27 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 11 2012, 03:26 PM) looking at Gocean ha.haa Woah!It's pinned under one of my favourites already. |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Sep 11 2012, 03:05 PM) I dun know how many bottom, but in term of psychology...........once it break 1.00, dangerous is coming.property counter, i only got glomac...........will consider top up if lower than 0.80, incoming financial report should be good (as hint by boss earlier). Unfortunately share price drop now |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:31 PM
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FGV nice show !
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Sep 11 2012, 03:34 PM
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IHH coming up..
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Sep 11 2012, 03:39 PM
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most of the counter is reversing ! looks like Foreign Fund has cash out enough ad...
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Sep 11 2012, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 11 2012, 03:39 PM) most of the counter is reversing ! looks like Foreign Fund has cash out enough ad... I LOL-ed like crazy when I read this: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-expensive.htmlEPF - our market SHARK! |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 03:40 PM) I LOL-ed like crazy when I read this: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-expensive.html EPF - our market SHARK!  honestly.. mind to elaborate more ah? kiddo dont know much about the news... i only know that IOI have everything nice for plantation but much more cheaper than FGV... this is what MK told me.. This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: Sep 11 2012, 03:46 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 03:40 PM) I LOL-ed like crazy when I read this: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-expensive.html Most pension/trust fund invest, EPF played the market almost daily..EPF - our market SHARK! Last article I read, EPF say it is due to pressure to performed ie pay high yearly dividen rate.. |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 03:40 PM) I LOL-ed like crazy when I read this: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-expensive.html Kinda left hand selling to the right.EPF - our market SHARK! aka one local fund is selling to another local fund to create a consolidation. Or who else is buying Maybank or Cimb Retailers sapuing |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 03:40 PM) I LOL-ed like crazy when I read this: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-expensive.html EPF - our market SHARK! like BOON3 Fu$K Sh!T EPF - using hard earn money and giving so little return....... |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 11 2012, 03:48 PM) Most pension/trust fund invest, EPF played the market almost daily.. but we only received 5% wor.. maybe they are paying some unknown sources dividend? Last article I read, EPF say it is due to pressure to performed ie pay high yearly dividen rate.. |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:51 PM
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FGV nice rebound
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Sep 11 2012, 03:52 PM
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genting?
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Sep 11 2012, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 11 2012, 03:51 PM) but we only received 5% wor.. maybe they are paying some unknown sources dividend? Such as the big diamond ring and expensive handbags? |
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Sep 11 2012, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(CP88 @ Sep 11 2012, 03:54 PM) Such as the big diamond ring and expensive handbags? London luxury prop boom now.I think many forumers like Pana are sapuing. |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 11 2012, 03:51 PM) but we only received 5% wor.. maybe they are paying some unknown sources dividend? Now everybody realised, no external audit on EPF.. |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:10 PM
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anyone here bought carlsbg just now? big lots taken each hit(buy) with barely little movement that early to tell. maybe long term rise double. quarter earning improves ~25% from same quarter before
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Sep 11 2012, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 11 2012, 04:10 PM) Now everybody realised, no external audit on EPF.. I want external audit on your.................................................... JCY trades. *cabutzzzz* |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:12 PM) I want external audit on your.................................................... JCY trades. Can lah.. still got some mother share at 1.01 *cabutzzzz* wan me to put sell queue at wat price... This post has been edited by magika: Sep 11 2012, 04:15 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:40 PM) I LOL-ed like crazy when I read this: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-expensive.html CI index become like Apple made LCD screen, size is kinda overly bigger than other brands sold in the mall.EPF - our market SHARK! This post has been edited by primepeng: Sep 11 2012, 04:19 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 11 2012, 04:14 PM) Can lah.. still got some mother share at 1.01 Haha! wan me to put sell queue at wat price... Put sell queue at wat price? Damn geng! |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:23 PM
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where is my mopiko!!!
 hit buy on cypark jor! Added on September 11, 2012, 4:25 pmAdded also some highest dividend retail mall reit. gosh! where is my mopiko...... This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 11 2012, 04:25 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:29 PM
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also buy some cypark ...is that some 1 recommend buy when low?
but the sell que at 1.51 like never end....something big going happen? This post has been edited by Kazaff: Sep 11 2012, 04:31 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:23 PM) where is my mopiko!!! Highest dividend huh? Which one? hit buy on cypark jor! Added on September 11, 2012, 4:25 pmAdded also some highest dividend retail mall reit. gosh! where is my mopiko...... |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:23 PM) where is my mopiko!!! Limit Up soon hit buy on cypark jor! Added on September 11, 2012, 4:25 pmAdded also some highest dividend retail mall reit. gosh! where is my mopiko...... |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:32 PM
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nomore panic selling in the afternoon?
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Sep 11 2012, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:29 PM) Highest dividend huh? Which one? Yeah. Curious to know also. |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:35 PM
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panic buying jor! |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:35 PM) panic buying jor! |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:29 PM) Highest dividend huh? Which one? That one like to buy neighborhood malls one. Yield 7.5% for now. But not sure after RI dilution. Added on September 11, 2012, 4:42 pmAiya! Many reits rebounds strongly. I thought slow slow buy can. Next time must buy more fierce when low. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 11 2012, 04:42 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:40 PM) That one like to buy neighborhood malls one. Yield 7.5% for now. But not sure after RI dilution. You got subscribe the RI? |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(CP88 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:42 PM) You got subscribe the RI? No, I sold all at 0.145. Too troublesome to subscribe. I lazy. |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:35 PM) panic buying jor! |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:49 PM
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tml die die stay green 1
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Sep 11 2012, 04:52 PM
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last minute, portfolio only lose RM40.00.........no pain |
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Sep 11 2012, 04:59 PM
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portfolio rebounds 1.5% today.
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Sep 11 2012, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:59 PM) portfolio rebounds 1.5% today. market so red you still able +1.5%, you are taikor already........... |
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Sep 11 2012, 05:23 PM
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my portfolio drop 50% |
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Sep 11 2012, 05:25 PM
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Just came back from meeting already drop so much and come back liao, what happened?
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Sep 11 2012, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Sep 11 2012, 05:25 PM) Just came back from meeting already drop so much and come back liao, what happened? QE 5 |
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Sep 11 2012, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 11 2012, 05:23 PM) my portfolio drop 50% later need study market 1st liaoany bulls expected tomorrow? or gonna slide down a bit before rebounce. fingers crossed. |
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Sep 11 2012, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 11 2012, 05:23 PM) my portfolio drop 50% |
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Sep 11 2012, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:59 PM) portfolio rebounds 1.5% today. lucky guy.. mine slid another 1.5% today but still better than midday around 3% |
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Sep 11 2012, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Sep 11 2012, 05:22 PM) market so red you still able +1.5%, you are taikor already........... when market super bull, i sure got back seats one, when reits won't move that time. This post has been edited by yok70: Sep 11 2012, 05:33 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 11 2012, 05:27 PM) QE 5 Hopefully after tomorrow meeting won't be QE6... |
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Sep 11 2012, 06:44 PM
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gt 6 sense, this is some temporary correction for today; redness is coming to paint the town
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Sep 11 2012, 07:09 PM
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Hi all. Can anyone pls share his / her views on whether it may be a good time to buy / add WTK? I got it @ 1.41 sometime last year (purely on FA)
But it's been falling non-stop the past few months. I believe it's due to weak sentiments on timber industry. I believe the co. fundamentals have not changed and the sentiments would improve (maybe not so soon). So am wondering whether it may be a good time to average down. Appreciate any views. Tx in advance! |
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Sep 11 2012, 07:56 PM
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 all red... |
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Sep 11 2012, 08:15 PM
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few reds.... some paper gain keep dropping till bout +6% only
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Sep 11 2012, 10:02 PM
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QL share price had been stagnant for these few years, highest it went 3.7+ on last year, H5N1 and escalating of corn price drag down all poulty stock.
Amedia trading at PE 13 based on current price, should be fully value Most of the plantation stock hammered down since CPO price hovering below RM3k This post has been edited by yhtan: Sep 11 2012, 10:05 PM |
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Sep 11 2012, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 11 2012, 05:23 PM) my portfolio drop 50% |
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Sep 11 2012, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 11 2012, 11:28 PM) Woah bro what have you been playing with? i guess warrant ? |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Sep 11 2012, 10:42 PM) i guess warrant ? Ouch.But when market rebound these also rebound quite fast |
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 12 2012, 12:08 AM) Ouch. not really But when market rebound these also rebound quite fast |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 11 2012, 10:02 PM) QL share price had been stagnant for these few years, highest it went 3.7+ on last year, H5N1 and escalating of corn price drag down all poulty stock. Hi,so, is it getting on plantation stock or QL is a good idea now?Amedia trading at PE 13 based on current price, should be fully value Most of the plantation stock hammered down since CPO price hovering below RM3k |
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Sep 11 2012, 11:59 PM
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saw sooo much cheap sales.. but dare not click
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Sep 12 2012, 12:35 AM
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the cheap may get cheaper......so nobody dare to touch anything. we are still above 1600 now, i guess "investors" may sidelines at least wait for fed and german court thing "say something" first.
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:35 AM) the cheap may get cheaper......so nobody dare to touch anything. we are still above 1600 now, i guess "investors" may sidelines at least wait for fed and german court thing "say something" first. Today and tomorrow's events are going to have a huge huge impact on investors, and the world at large. |
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Sep 12 2012, 08:54 AM
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taking risk by buying a bit in pre market
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Sep 12 2012, 09:10 AM
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CI in border of both color, let see |
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Sep 12 2012, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(SentulChin @ Sep 11 2012, 11:18 PM) Hi,so, is it getting on plantation stock or QL is a good idea now? i have no idea |
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Sep 12 2012, 09:19 AM
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Index is oversold, anticipate rebound
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Market nowadays really sensitive, yesterday out report of new budget airline, today Airasia plunge down..
Wat happen to Ingens clone ? This post has been edited by magika: Sep 12 2012, 09:23 AM |
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Sep 12 2012, 09:46 AM
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Ingen clone lost stamina. Nw tumbling and stuck. Wait ppl to jump start?
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Sep 12 2012, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 11 2012, 10:28 PM) Woah bro what have you been playing with? hahaha MAS-CG.. it is a betting honestly.. I just try my tape reading skill.. hehehe.. |
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Sep 12 2012, 09:57 AM
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yay, made some this morning. maybe not much as u guys
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 09:54 AM) hahaha MAS-CG.. it is a betting honestly.. some tapes just not worth reading. I just try my tape reading skill.. hehehe.. punt is intended. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 09:57 AM) some tapes just not worth reading. aiyayaya boon gor.. let me speak more proffesional abit ma.. tape reading ! punt is intended. u forget what you call me? i prepared my wok already.. |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 10:02 AM) aiyayaya boon gor.. let me speak more proffesional abit ma.. tape reading ! Sorry Chef! u forget what you call me? i prepared my wok already.. I shall bring extra oil for your wok! |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:06 AM) Sorry Chef! goreng pisang mas I shall bring extra oil for your wok! |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:11 AM) goreng pisang mas Market not bad today. |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:14 AM) Market not bad today. For the time being, kinda artificial consolidation . MBF W got triple bottom or not This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 12 2012, 10:19 AM |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 12 2012, 09:21 AM) Market nowadays really sensitive, yesterday out report of new budget airline, today Airasia plunge down.. This new budget airline ... Wat happen to Ingens clone ? http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-to-change.html Nadi holds 51% and our government holds ONE golden share. How airlines does our country have now? AirAsia's TonyGor is not going to be happy. His company expanding like crazy, as if money fall from sky ( punt maybe intended! LOL! ) and suddenly, a no shadow kick comes flying out... |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:23 AM
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A hammer yesterday with some little volume today looks open green.. market might be in reversal...
as you can observed yesterday afternoon time the reverse.. FGV shows.. of course the most clear signal is look at CIMB and Maybank.. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Sep 12 2012, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:17 AM) slow slow climb until Pre Budget Day on 28/9 Don't know.. For the time being, kinda artificial consolidation . MBF W got triple bottom or not All I know is W has underperformed the mother shy. Why? I also don't know. |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:22 AM) This new budget airline ... tony gor gor say no threaten to them.. http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-to-change.html Nadi holds 51% and our government holds ONE golden share. How airlines does our country have now? AirAsia's TonyGor is not going to be happy. His company expanding like crazy, as if money fall from sky ( punt maybe intended! LOL! ) and suddenly, a no shadow kick comes flying out... but would this news cause MAS hike up? Malindo.. |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 10:23 AM) A hammer yesterday with some little volume today looks open green.. market might be in reversal... Pasar heard your hammer and your ... wok. Hahah!as you can observed yesterday afternoon time the reverse.. FGV shows.. of course the most clear signal is look at CIMB and Maybank.. Market plus ONE point now... Hope it plus more! |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:11 AM) goreng pisang mas i want to make 100% like u |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:26 AM) Pasar heard your hammer and your ... wok. Hahah! Hammer to slap the wok and wake up those super bull ! Market plus ONE point now... Hope it plus more! I saw theedge news CIMB buy call on construction sector.. WCT! |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 10:25 AM) tony gor gor say no threaten to them.. He sure or not he no feel threaten... but would this news cause MAS hike up? Malindo.. Some routes AirAsia IS the only cheapskate way to fly... now suddenly .... new cheapskate plane kambing... Added on September 12, 2012, 10:31 am QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 10:28 AM) Hammer to slap the wok and wake up those super bull ! WCT doing not bad today. This big ... err ... elephant... haD been moving up very steadily. Nice! Good for you Chef! I saw theedge news CIMB buy call on construction sector.. WCT! Personally I not so gian on construction business but if I were to choose one, I might consider Pintaras. Chart still very strong. This post has been edited by Boon3: Sep 12 2012, 10:31 AM |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:22 AM) This new budget airline ... Can they have the same profitablity as AirAsia with the B737, i doubt so http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-to-change.html Nadi holds 51% and our government holds ONE golden share. How airlines does our country have now? AirAsia's TonyGor is not going to be happy. His company expanding like crazy, as if money fall from sky ( punt maybe intended! LOL! ) and suddenly, a no shadow kick comes flying out...Many want to copy Air Asia model but they failed in their cost control and loading capacity This post has been edited by yhtan: Sep 12 2012, 10:33 AM |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 12 2012, 10:33 AM) Can they have the same profitablity as AirAsia with the B737, i doubt so Whether they fail or not, by them being around those AirAsia routes, they will represent an option for air travelers. Many want to copy Air Asia model but they failed in their cost control and loading capacity AirAsia model is having its success now because they got big helping hands when they first started out. |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:28 AM) He sure or not he no feel threaten... Some routes AirAsia IS the only cheapskate way to fly... now suddenly .... new cheapskate plane kambing... Added on September 12, 2012, 10:31 am WCT doing not bad today. This big ... err ... elephant... haD been moving up very steadily. Nice! Good for you Chef! Personally I not so gian on construction business but if I were to choose one, I might consider Pintaras. Chart still very strong. why pintaras? and what company is that? lol give me stock code please.. |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:38 AM) Whether they fail or not, by them being around those AirAsia routes, they will represent an option for air travelers. Cheap Airlines do not help Rakyat much, cheap houses do AirAsia model is having its success now because they got big helping hands when they first started out. |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 10:40 AM) why pintaras? and what company is that? lol give me stock code please.. It's a company that specialize in piling. You can read more http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/search...Pintaras%20Jaya |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:28 AM) He sure or not he no feel threaten... Sure not a super slow conservative stock Some routes AirAsia IS the only cheapskate way to fly... now suddenly .... new cheapskate plane kambing... Added on September 12, 2012, 10:31 am WCT doing not bad today. This big ... err ... elephant... haD been moving up very steadily. Nice! Good for you Chef! Personally I not so gian on construction business but if I were to choose one, I might consider Pintaras. Chart still very strong. |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:43 AM) Cheap Airlines do not help Rakyat much, cheap houses do Talking about cheap houses, UEM Land is getting very 'cheap'. Cheap is good for cheapskate stock players! Haha! Will we see 1.50+ for UEM Land again? Is this going to be a push down push up stock in the making? It has the GE branding all over its face but any shark tales from you? |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:49 AM) Talking about cheap houses, UEM Land is getting very 'cheap'. UOB asks investors to sell such linked companies. Cheap is good for cheapskate stock players! Haha! Will we see 1.50+ for UEM Land again? Is this going to be a push down push up stock in the making? It has the GE branding all over its face but any shark tales from you? |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:52 AM
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better dun play with uemland, its going down and down
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Sep 12 2012, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:51 AM) UOB asks investors to sell such linked companies. I know. You can see some retailers have blindly follow the 'sell first' move.... I can accept their thinking but not sure about the timing, afterall there is still no news on when exactly GE will take place. Anyway, I am just exploring the possibility of bottoms on such stocks. |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:22 AM) This new budget airline ... Aiyah, Indonesia have so MANY budget airline, yet airasia can steadily get higher and higher market share. Lion air is not going to threaten Airasia anytime soon, as they are already fighting in the Indonesia. Unless of course the government start to play favorites.... http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-to-change.html Nadi holds 51% and our government holds ONE golden share. How airlines does our country have now? AirAsia's TonyGor is not going to be happy. His company expanding like crazy, as if money fall from sky ( punt maybe intended! LOL! ) and suddenly, a no shadow kick comes flying out... Indonesia budget Airlines :- 1. Citilink 2. Batavia Air 3. Lion Air 4. Airasia Indonesia 5. Srivijaya Air 6. Mandala air (closed shop already, recently bought by tiger air...) This post has been edited by gark: Sep 12 2012, 10:57 AM |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 12 2012, 10:56 AM) Aiyah, Indonesia have so MANY budget airline, yet airasia can steadily get higher and higher market share. Lion air is not going to threaten Airasia anytime soon, as they are already fighting in the Indonesia. Unless of course the government start to play favorites.... WOW! That many cheapskate airlines in Indonesia? Indonesia budget Airlines :- 1. Citilink 2. Batavia Air 3. Lion Air 4. Airasia Indonesia 5. Srivijaya Air 6. Mandala air (closed shop already) Thanks for that info. |
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Sep 12 2012, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:45 AM) stock code 9598. 9598.. uptrend started @ 6/8/2012 ...It's a company that specialize in piling. You can read more http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/search...Pintaras%20Jaya i didn't read all of his article.. i can only focus on those girls picture.. lol |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 12 2012, 10:56 AM) Aiyah, Indonesia have so MANY budget airline, yet airasia can steadily get higher and higher market share. Lion air is not going to threaten Airasia anytime soon, as they are already fighting in the Indonesia. Unless of course the government start to play favorites.... Maybe more chances for AA to sapu cheap when they are about to close shops Indonesia budget Airlines :- 1. Citilink 2. Batavia Air 3. Lion Air 4. Airasia Indonesia 5. Srivijaya Air 6. Mandala air (closed shop already, recently bought by tiger air...) |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:58 AM) WOW! That many cheapskate airlines in Indonesia? Yeah.. lion air USED to be the taikor in budget airline in Indonesia.. until AirAsia comes along... Thanks for that info. . You disturb my turf, I disturb your turf loh...but AirAsia Indonesia is given small quota of landing rights in local airport, that is why the company HQ is moving there...to be a 'local' company . Foreign companies have many disadvantages in Indonesia.. |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 10:58 AM) 9598.. uptrend started @ 6/8/2012 ... The rule of the thumb is reading=knowledge=profits=tape reading girls! i didn't read all of his article.. i can only focus on those girls picture.. lol Cannot jump straight into tape reading girls. |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:00 AM) Maybe more chances for AA to sapu cheap when they are about to close shops AA wanted to 'sapu' batavia airline recently but was recently blocked by the government... say they fear airasia will be monopoly.. |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 12 2012, 11:01 AM) Yeah.. lion air USED to be the taikor in budget airline in Indonesia.. until AirAsia comes along... Indonesia not easy place. . You disturb my turf, I disturb your turf loh...but AirAsia Indonesia is given small quota of landing rights in local airport, that is why the company HQ is moving there...to be a 'local' company . Foreign companies have many disadvantages in Indonesia..Didn't Astro and Maxis run into trouble there after putting in big money there? |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:01 AM) The rule of the thumb is reading=knowledge=profits=tape reading girls! Can learnt first you no-shadow-kick mah.. Cannot jump straight into tape reading girls. Tinman cometh.. This post has been edited by magika: Sep 12 2012, 11:05 AM |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:38 AM) Whether they fail or not, by them being around those AirAsia routes, they will represent an option for air travelers. Prior that firefly was a challenger to Air Asia, but still incurring losses. The problem is government is 51% shareholder of the new budget airline, i don't hope for another MAS in making AirAsia model is having its success now because they got big helping hands when they first started out. Helping hands only help on initial stage, the rest is boiled down to management. And i notice Air Asia stands out from other for its marketing strategy. |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:48 AM) Sure not a super slow conservative stock Miss this message. Which one? WCT? |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 10:55 AM) I know. Maybe got chance to do some arbitrage You can see some retailers have blindly follow the 'sell first' move.... I can accept their thinking but not sure about the timing, afterall there is still no news on when exactly GE will take place. Anyway, I am just exploring the possibility of bottoms on such stocks. |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 12 2012, 11:04 AM) Can learnt first you no-shadow-kick mah.. LOL! You need to FLY to Kwantung to learn that kick leh. Tinman cometh.. Tin man very strong. Missed it. |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:05 AM) Miss this message. Which one? WCT? WCT is good . My sifu MK is doing the promotion leh |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:03 AM) Indonesia not easy place. Depend ... CIMB niaga, BII Maybank, Axiata, QL Resources, and most plantation is doing very well.. it depends on your partner. Astro is doomed to fail as Indon have like 5-6 satellite TV operators here AND is cheaper than Astro... guess no monopoly tak boleh jalan... Didn't Astro and Maxis run into trouble there after putting in big money there? |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:08 AM) LOL! You need to FLY to Kwantung to learn that kick leh. Going to Hong Kong in November with family. Kwantung ? i thought Hong Kong mehh Tin man very strong. Missed it. |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:07 AM) Maybe got chance to do some arbitrage My thinking is by the time it goes 1.50 or below... you will find noises shouting that the selling is terlebih. Which is normal in our stock market. Got to plan to be one step ahead of them. |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:10 AM) My thinking is by the time it goes 1.50 or below... you will find noises shouting that the selling is terlebih. Triple bottom fishing Which is normal in our stock market. Got to plan to be one step ahead of them. |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:08 AM) WCT is good . My sifu MK is doing the promotion leh You also got sifu meh?You already so terror. Added on September 12, 2012, 11:14 am QUOTE(magika @ Sep 12 2012, 11:10 AM) Going to Hong Kong in November with family. Kwantung ? i thought Hong Kong mehh Going to Hong Kong? let me guess.. sponsored by JayCee and Tin Man. 1.97 now! Added on September 12, 2012, 11:15 am QUOTE(gark @ Sep 12 2012, 11:08 AM) Depend ... CIMB niaga, BII Maybank, Axiata, QL Resources, and most plantation is doing very well.. it depends on your partner. Astro is doomed to fail as Indon have like 5-6 satellite TV operators here AND is cheaper than Astro... guess no monopoly tak boleh jalan... Hehe. Would you be aiming for a bottom play for AirAsia? 2.80 price ok boh? This post has been edited by Boon3: Sep 12 2012, 11:15 AM |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:11 AM) You also got sifu meh? Me kinda getting lazy like Android phone, copy and paste one You already so terror. Less time spent on R & D, more time allocated for windtalk |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:16 AM) Me kinda getting lazy like Android phone, copy and paste one Less time spent on R & D, more time allocated for windtalk Can I elect you to be president of BMW club? hahah! BMW club = Bursa Malaysia Windtalking club! |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:11 AM) Added on September 12, 2012, 11:14 am Going to Hong Kong? let me guess.. sponsored by JayCee and Tin Man. 1.97 now! Added on September 12, 2012, 11:15 am |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 12 2012, 11:20 AM) Did not buy tinman lah.. I talk big only now must learn no shadow kick Boons says UEM Under eRect Man. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 12 2012, 11:23 AM |
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 12 2012, 11:20 AM) Did not buy tinman lah.. I talk big only now must learn no shadow kick This not call talking big. You will be getting a free membership to the BMW club. |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:22 AM) Boons says UEM This Boon3 can trust, got no shadow kick one.. Looks like todays market is buying in anticpation.. bet afternoon down Added on September 12, 2012, 11:24 am QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:23 AM) This not call talking big. You will be getting a free membership to the BMW club. This post has been edited by magika: Sep 12 2012, 11:24 AM |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:22 AM) Boons says UEM Wei! Under eRect Man. I 100% not buying UEM Land now. And I don't own this stock either.... not yet. Wait for you first. Haha! |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 12 2012, 11:23 AM) complement or sarcasm.. i wonder I am now wondering also. |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:11 AM) Would you be aiming for a bottom play for AirAsia? 2.80 price ok boh? |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 12 2012, 11:29 AM) No very interested, look at all the debt also 'kecut' already. AA got lot of cashpiles mah.U cannot expect them to buy planes with cash |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 12 2012, 11:29 AM) No very interested, look at all the debt also 'kecut' already. Looks like you are a pure investor. Must eat some different dish every now and then. Speculate little won't die one. I think if AirAsia stock continue to fall to 2.80+, I think this knee jerk reaction will be overdone. Could be an opportunity for some scavengers traders... AirAsia debts and its future plan is indeed scary but at this moment of time, I think AirAsia's cash flows should still be able to tahan. Yeah, AirAsia won't die so fast.. But some are making noise already saying TonyGor very smart. By the time the debts really kick in, where will TonyGor be? |
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Sep 12 2012, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 12 2012, 11:29 AM) No very interested, look at all the debt also 'kecut' already. All the leasing is over a long period, maybe 10 years or longer, similar as car loan. As long the company's cash flow able to repay its instalment, bank won't kacau them Too bad they are into a industry highly depending on crude oil price, inconsistency profit in q-o-q or y-o-y QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:38 AM) Looks like you are a pure investor. Must eat some different dish every now and then. Speculate little won't die one. I think if AirAsia stock continue to fall to 2.80+, I think this knee jerk reaction will be overdone. Could be an opportunity for some scavengers traders... AirAsia debts and its future plan is indeed scary but at this moment of time, I think AirAsia's cash flows should still be able to tahan. Yeah, AirAsia won't die so fast.. But some are making noise already saying TonyGor very smart. By the time the debts really kick in, where will TonyGor be? |
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 12 2012, 11:23 AM) This Boon3 can trust, got no shadow kick one.. Wind Talk is ............kinda Looks like todays market is buying in anticpation.. bet afternoon down Added on September 12, 2012, 11:24 am complement or sarcasm.. i wonder More like the TA talk also But then with some many undervalued stocks ( FA ) out there and with limited resources, logical step is detect the " wind " of some of these stocks through ( TA/SA ) Before that, still the stock got to go through a period of accumulation by the invisible hands before the wind starts to blow. Wind talk as a matter of fact is a Branch of SA Hope my code 10 meets the above...... Added on September 12, 2012, 11:50 am QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 12 2012, 11:46 AM) All the leasing is over a long period, maybe 10 years or longer, similar as car loan. As long the company's cash flow able to repay its instalment, bank won't kacau them Banks also got lot of debts ( FD ) and Bonds etc.Too bad they are into a industry highly depending on crude oil price, inconsistency profit in q-o-q or y-o-y Their cash flow is healthy because they receive advance payment from customer by giving out promotion REITS too. So are they not of investment grades. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 12 2012, 11:50 AM |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 12 2012, 11:46 AM) All the leasing is over a long period, maybe 10 years or longer, similar as car loan. As long the company's cash flow able to repay its instalment, bank won't kacau them LOL! I am so sorry but that statement in bold, reminds me so much of the beloved R*** sector. Too bad they are into a industry highly depending on crude oil price, inconsistency profit in q-o-q or y-o-y Their cash flow is healthy because they receive advance payment from customer by giving out promotion Last time, when I glanced thru, the 'distortion' is there due to the depreciation of its aircrafts. It's a double edged sword. One on hand, depreciation of aircrafts is a must, not just the sake of accounting purposes. But by doing that, sometimes 'investors' forget that the company is a nice cash cow and it is VERY good to have a business where it can collect money in advance. Added on September 12, 2012, 11:54 am QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:46 AM) Wind Talk is ............kinda More like the TA talk also But then with some many undervalued stocks ( FA ) out there and with limited resources, logical step is detect the " wind " of some of these stocks through ( TA/SA ) Before that, still the stock got to go through a period of accumulation by the invisible hands before the wind starts to blow. Wind talk as a matter of fact is a Branch of SA Hope my code 10 meets the above...... Mr. President. This post has been edited by Boon3: Sep 12 2012, 11:54 AM |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:53 AM) LOL! I am so sorry but that statement in bold, reminds me so much of the beloved R*** sector. Well putting money into Relative unknown stocks like Amedia, Takaful, Huayang and MBF w , sometimes could fetch higher returns too.Last time, when I glanced thru, the 'distortion' is there due to the depreciation of its aircrafts. It's a double edged sword. One on hand, depreciation of aircrafts is a must, not just the sake of accounting purposes. But by doing that, sometimes 'investors' forget that the company is a nice cash cow and it is VERY good to have a business where it can collect money in advance. Added on September 12, 2012, 11:54 am Mr. President. Not necessary have to be super popular ones like Harvest. |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:03 PM) Well putting money into Relative unknown stocks like Amedia, Takaful, Huayang and MBF w , sometimes could fetch higher returns too. Agree!Not necessary have to be super popular ones like Harvest. Any comments on P&O? I remember you saying you once made big money in this counter. I am interested after reading Kenanga's comments. Wonder what's your take on this stock. Watching stocks we own or used to own has its benefits. Sometimes stock could fall too much and when it does, it could be like raining ang pows. For instance, I am also watching that bank. |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:08 PM) For instance, I am also watching that bank. |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 12 2012, 12:10 PM) Why, want to rob it meh..? LOL!No lah. I just want to send it to a master Chef and ask the chef to masak the living daylights of the stock! When market down, I can be a cheapskate-r and I always have so many stocks to look and see if they can be masak-ed! |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:08 PM) Agree! KInda true also.Any comments on P&O? I remember you saying you once made big money in this counter. I am interested after reading Kenanga's comments. Wonder what's your take on this stock. Watching stocks we own or used to own has its benefits. Sometimes stock could fall too much and when it does, it could be like raining ang pows. For instance, I am also watching that bank. The reason why I sold off MBF W and Affin and bought Code 10 because I expect it to fall less when the market consolidates . Well P & O , we started with ( some ) bought around 60sen, and many jumped in at rm 1.20, and suffered losses, and tonnes of noises created by the forumers. M & A failed , and now story starts to repeat ? No intention to jump in cos got bad memory at around rm 1.20 then Added on September 12, 2012, 12:26 pm QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:14 PM) LOL! EPF kinda instructed to divert more funds to support CIMB, hence no time to take care of this stock.No lah. I just want to send it to a master Chef and ask the chef to masak the living daylights of the stock! When market down, I can be a cheapskate-r and I always have so many stocks to look and see if they can be masak-ed! Well, I am also eyeing on " bargain buy " on this bank. BTW couple of cw just expired. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 12 2012, 12:33 PM |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:19 PM) KInda true also. Thanks for sharing your past exp on the stock.The reason why I sold off MBF W and Affin and bought Code 10 because I expect it to fall less when the market consolidates . Well P & O , we started with ( some ) bought around 60sen, and many jumped in at rm 1.20, and suffered losses, and tonnes of noises created by the forumers. M & A failed , and now story starts to repeat ? No intention to jump in cos got bad memory at around rm 1.20 then I on the other hand is interested now. A new M&A speculation appeared last Aug. Stock jumped with a huge gap up and close around 1.22. What's most interesting is that with the said weak sentiments and all the 'sell first and buy back lower' talks, the stock held firm and did not give up the gains. Last Saturday, P&O confirmed it got offers from a S.African insurance company. Stock gap up on Monday. Despite the weak conditions again, the stock did not fall much. Just now the stock holding around 1.22. The current uptrend which started in June, still looks strong, in its infant stages. I love stocks who hold strong on weak sentiments. Kenanga report yesterday says the stock TP around 1.60. I am interested but I think I will only adopt a buy high and sell higher strategy on this stock. |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:33 PM) Thanks for sharing your past exp on the stock. Same T/P and same broker report I on the other hand is interested now. A new M&A speculation appeared last Aug. Stock jumped with a huge gap up and close around 1.22. What's most interesting is that with the said weak sentiments and all the 'sell first and buy back lower' talks, the stock held firm and did not give up the gains. Last Saturday, P&O confirmed it got offers from a S.African insurance company. Stock gap up on Monday. Despite the weak conditions again, the stock did not fall much. Just now the stock holding around 1.22. The current uptrend which started in June, still looks strong, in its infant stages. I love stocks who hold strong on weak sentiments. Kenanga report yesterday says the stock TP around 1.60. I am interested but I think I will only adopt a buy high and sell higher strategy on this stock. Same minyak but diff packaging And Why South Africa leh This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Sep 12 2012, 12:39 PM |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:38 PM
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looks like some gambler gave up gambling and throwing down ad..
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Sep 12 2012, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:36 PM) Same T/P and same broker report Same minyak but diff packaging How ironic! I am watching 125 the level. |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:39 PM) How ironic! I am watching 125 the level. Hope there is no 3rd time also. |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 12:38 PM) looks like some gambler gave up gambling and throwing down ad.. Gamblers where give up gambling one? They always be back..... one way or another. Chef, what you masak-ing? |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:41 PM) Good luck, but 2nd time is kinda real. Just sharing and exchanging ideas only.Hope there is no 3rd time also. Many times, I get ideas but never do execute those ideas for one reason or another. In other words, just windtalking only! |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:42 PM) Gamblers where give up gambling one? They always be back..... one way or another. Chef, what you masak-ing? got a little position there.. kids don't have much money to roll la.. |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 12:49 PM) i only masak MAS now oh... MAS 1.03!got a little position there.. kids don't have much money to roll la..Looks like tiga kali bottom play is on! Apa ini with the little positon there? Scared I leach on your profits ah? How much you making? |
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Sep 12 2012, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:52 PM) MAS 1.03! Looks like tiga kali bottom play is on! Apa ini with the little positon there? Scared I leach on your profits ah? How much you making? if u can eat up all the shares... just eat it up... i think around 5k lot can push up a tick ! hahahahaaiya... i still making loss in CW.. hopefully today MAS can break 10MA resistance... This post has been edited by kueyteowlou: Sep 12 2012, 12:57 PM |
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Sep 12 2012, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 12:55 PM) if u can eat up all the shares... just eat it up... i think around 5k lot can push up a tick ! hahahahaaiya... i still making loss in CW.. hopefully today MAS can break 10MA resistance... I wish and hope for you that |
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Sep 12 2012, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 01:01 PM) I wish and hope for you that tony gor said that Malindo will hurt MAS instead of Airasia.. but MAS in green and strong like a rock now... but AA price now..... |
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Sep 12 2012, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 01:18 PM) tony gor said that Malindo will hurt MAS instead of Airasia.. but MAS in green and strong like a rock now... but AA price now..... You say 2.80 or 2.70 or a quickie? |
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Sep 12 2012, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 01:22 PM) TonyGor sometimes many things to say one. look at this news :You say 2.80 or 2.70 or a quickie? http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...says-fernandes/ opps.. forget to mention.. AIRASIA got HA also.. |
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Sep 12 2012, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 01:25 PM) look at this news : AirAsia got HA?http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...says-fernandes/ opps.. forget to mention.. AIRASIA got HA also.. Me better think again... TonyGor not only many things to say one but anything also dare say... QUOTE "No impact to us," Fernandes, AirAsia's group CEO told The Malaysian Insider. "As a class 2 product Malaysia Airlines will be most affected as they (Malindo) want to use aerobridges and serve refreshments." Can hear or not. MAS is Class 2 product! QUOTE Some analysts say however that Malindo could spark a price war in order to win market share from AirAsia and Lion Air President Rusdi Kirana was quoted as saying yesterday that Malindo would offer fares as low or even lower than AirAsia. Fernandes brushed aside Rusdi's comments however saying that he did not think they would be able to pull it off. "How can he sell cheaper?" he said. Some people if no likey face, any how cheaper they also sell la. hehe Tiok boh? I think TonyGor cannot challenge people and say so loud 'How can he sell cheaper?' If price war, face war, anything also can one. |
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Sep 12 2012, 01:35 PM
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HSI 20k liao..
DAX 7.3k SPX near multi year high... everywhere so bullish and yet i'm hiding.. feel like a total |
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Sep 12 2012, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 12 2012, 01:35 PM) AirAsia got HA? looks like we have to prepare popcorn watch show and enjoy the free cheap flight.. when 2 big company fighting.. i guess the best is US! we enjoy the price war.. Me better think again... TonyGor not only many things to say one but anything also dare say... Can hear or not. MAS is Class 2 product! Some people if no likey face, any how cheaper they also sell la. hehe Tiok boh? I think TonyGor cannot challenge people and say so loud 'How can he sell cheaper?' If price war, face war, anything also can one. MAS still providing better place comparing with AA.. just that AA is much more cheaper only.. hahaha if Malindo in KLIA2, i think can bring some good sales to MAS too? |
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Sep 12 2012, 01:54 PM
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sky gor what happen to finfin?
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Sep 12 2012, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 12 2012, 01:53 PM) looks like we have to prepare popcorn watch show and enjoy the free cheap flight.. when 2 big company fighting.. i guess the best is US! we enjoy the price war.. I thought MAS shares were cheaper. MAS still providing better place comparing with AA.. just that AA is much more cheaper only.. hahaha if Malindo in KLIA2, i think can bring some good sales to MAS too? |
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Sep 12 2012, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(CP88 @ Sep 12 2012, 02:41 PM) I thought MAS shares were cheaper. i mean ticket |
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