Henderson looks so good huh.

No wonder hit the tiang so many times la!

Here's a good writeup from the Independent. Some of this has already been discussed yesterday but this article provides greater detail on why we didn't proceed with the Dempsey move. I've cut out a piece of the full article (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/liverpool-reject-owen-as-henry-admits-errors-8102806.html)
In summary, here's why FSG were reluctant to sign Dempsey.

1) Jordan Henderson's refusal to move. Hmm... it says that he was offered as "makeweight". We signed him for close to $20 million and Dempsey was offered to us at $7 million so how much do were we going to value Henderson at for this deal to go through? Doesn't make sense unless we were going to ship him to them on loan.

2) Fulham wanted us to pay a higher price than the others because of the messy summer where even on FSG's website, we claimed he was already joining us. I can understand why Fulham were pissed. What we did is almost akin to tapping up a player. I don't think either party was wrong here. We refused on principal and they wanted more because of what we did.

3) Buying prudently. To be honest I don't think that refusing to sign a player who had just scored 23 goals for a paltry sum despite his age (not even 30 btw) was being prudent. I think it had more to do with reason 2).

As to why we loaned Carroll out? Well it had to do with our cash flow I feel. With FFP taking effect, we cannot afford expensive passengers.

Completely agree. that was what I'm trying to say. Morgan is not there yet, with the way he play, he is not even near to Borini which is also not good enough. About Yesil, watch him only on YouTube, so there are not much to comment, but the main problem for him will be the physical, is he strong enough to compete with BPL big defenders. That is why one experience or matured striker is needed, if only we can get Falcao. =))))

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Added on September 4, 2012, 4:47 pm

Youngsters can be subs in or play against bottom table team. by this they can also grow and gain experience. Current situation is we need striker to be in the first team. to score goals, or try to create chances to Suarez n co. Talking about long term project, what if BR give them(youngsters) time to play and can't get the result in 10 - 12 match. FSG will still support BR and say this is long term when all the fans are hungry for a trophy?? No.. i wouldn't think so.

But did the club acted behind BR's back ? That's the big question here. It's all fine that we needed to conduct ourselves based on principles but the game changed when we loaned Carroll out. The prudent thing, regardless of principle, was to find a replacement. There had to be a compromise from the board. And who's idea was it to use Hendo as a sweetener? It sounds ridiculous that we needed to get rid off 2 players (whos fees were over 50mil combined) in order to get one in, and it's only Dempsey we're talking about here. And if getting rid of Carroll was to sort out our cashflow, then what would have happen if we did end up signing Dempsey ? Surely it would all even out. Something doesn't add up.

Youngsters can be subs in or play against bottom table team. by this they can also grow and gain experience. Current situation is we need striker to be in the first team. to score goals, or try to create chances to Suarez n co. Talking about long term project, what if BR give them(youngsters) time to play and can't get the result in 10 - 12 match. FSG will still support BR and say this is long term when all the fans are hungry for a trophy?? No.. i wouldn't think so.

Rumoured that we only offered 3 mil for Dempsey. I guess FSG is sticking with their system no matter what.

Lets admit it, 3mil is a lowball figure. If someone does that to our club, we would call it insulting.

speaking of morgan and yesil,

if the youth is so good and already good enough to take on premier league players (think Sterling), then playing him in most of the matches and giving him exposure makes sense

for youth players who are not quite there yet (think morgan and maybe yesil too), giving them constant exposure to top level football will only stunt their growth (now think Walcott) because me think they will try so hard to not make mistakes most of the time rather than actually learn something worthwhile. if they actually learned anything, it would be that they're not good enough, and that would have a serious effect on confidence

so I don't think using Morgan week in week out is good. signing owen might actually give him a mentor on how to score in certain spots or situations (that's what old fags are for right?) maybe after learning a few tricks up his sleeve then i'd say morgan is ready

We are not going to sign Owen, buddy. It's confirmed.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story...tml?CMP=OTC-RSS

well that's good news! we get Drogba!

hahah i mean come on who am i kidding lulz i'll bet my pants that we wont sign anybody until january

Unlikely as well. Shenhua is still working things out. Most likely scenario is loaning Drogba out which means clubs like PSG and Anzhi will fight for his services and we are in no way capable of challenging them.

Our options left: Sinama, Heskey or Lazovic. If you ask me, I want neither. Might as well ask the club to sign me and pay me $5,000 per week . I will hide behind the goalkeeper and steal the ball. LOL

To be frank, if there is no Michael Owen, I won't be watching Liverpool FC or even football.

$3million? Disgraceful or our mathematical calculation seems to have big problem. We can afford $35million Caroll but not $7million Demps. If Fulham had asked for $17million, we may probably go for it. It's cheap. While $7million is too expensive.

Haha well if the offer for Hendo + cash is true, we actually did kinda offered 17mil. Because Hendo being British, more or less has a price tag of 15mil. So 3mil cash + 15mil Hendo = 18mil. It's baffling.

I blame Comolli. Ever since he came, our control of figures screwed up. Maybe Newcastle asked for $45million for Caroll and we managed to bargain down to $35million. So when Fulham ask for a straight forward honest price of $7million, we thought we can bargain down to $3million when it doesnt work that way. LOL.

I blame Comolli. Ever since he came, our control of figures screwed up. Maybe Newcastle asked for $45million for Caroll and we managed to bargain down to $35million. So when Fulham ask for a straight forward honest price of $7million, we thought we can bargain down to $3million when it doesnt work that way. LOL.