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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V30, with <3s

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saga_911
post Sep 6 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 6 2012, 12:57 PM)
Tolong kasi  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif sama unker
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Betul ape yg unker cakap tu?
iskazulka
post Sep 6 2012, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(saga_911 @ Sep 6 2012, 02:04 PM)
Betul ape yg unker cakap tu?
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takkan unker salah pulak. dia kan otai.
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post Sep 6 2012, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(saga_911 @ Sep 6 2012, 01:04 PM)
Betul ape yg unker cakap tu?
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I'm not sure what filter is he using. It depends on the filter element, I guess.
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post Sep 6 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 6 2012, 12:58 PM)
Gua mia idling readouts. No aircon.

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dares, ini meter put on dashboard ka or on android?
looks like macam software je. sorry. noobiss
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post Sep 6 2012, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Sep 6 2012, 01:19 PM)
dares, ini meter put on dashboard ka or on android?
looks like macam software je. sorry. noobiss
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nie screenshot from my android phone la.
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post Sep 6 2012, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 6 2012, 01:22 PM)
nie screenshot from my android phone la.
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i see. i guess i wanna try it too sweat.gif
how to setup?
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post Sep 6 2012, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Sep 6 2012, 01:24 PM)
i see. i guess i wanna try it too  sweat.gif
how to setup?
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You need to buy the OBD scanner first below

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=113&t=1792872
lhwj
post Sep 6 2012, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 6 2012, 10:58 AM)

A side note from previous midnight run with lhwj. Luke cleverly assumed the vacuum reading as KM/L, on an average bassis driving consistently at 15in/hg can actually represent 15km/l on an averaging bassis. The previous MRR2 midnight runs yielded Luke 20.5km/l, whereas I managed to clocked 16km/l kinda phenomenon FC on a BLM SE. Credit goes to Luke & his lovely BLM SE

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Actually that's what YOU said, not me brows.gif

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 6 2012, 12:30 PM)
On new EFI engine, fuel supply is cut on downhill. It doesn't burn lean, there's just simply nothing to burn. The combustion chamber temperature should not rise excessively just because of downhill high vacuum reading.

For carburettor engine, the lean burn may occur. Disengaging the gear on EFI engine will cause fuel to be injected again during downhill, wasting some fuel.

From Toyota: http://forum.diyefi.org/download/file.php?...a086b&mode=view
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That's exactly what I told YAB when I was having TT with His Highness once blink.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Sep 6 2012, 12:58 PM)
Gua mia idling readouts. No aircon.

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19 hg/in idling? I'm jeles. Me only get 17 at the most dry.gif


This post has been edited by lhwj: Sep 6 2012, 01:35 PM
davidke20
post Sep 6 2012, 01:43 PM

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To all OCT watcher, sorry I cqnt make much post and quote since I'm on GPRS. Farkin sloe.

I'm using regular fuel filter, INLET on BOTTOM as ZEONE proposed. The ORIGINAL suggested way of usage as suggested by ZEONE is CORRECT if its use for fuel filtration. Fuel will be pouring in from bottom to top, petrol filled up entire tank and gets suck out via cylinder paper filter from the TOP hose. This way, fluid will have bigger buffer from the outside, not so easy get congested. 4G13 owner can run their dirty filter for 10ths of years without trouble.

I purposely TERBALIK pasang, bcoz I was the dirty air/oil goes in from TOP. So the filtered oil can catched at the bottom. The bottom hose is not right at the most bottom part, so intake will only take in AIR(unless you taking hard corner to the extend oil got rush to the outlet then I'm really speechless). Reason for not following traditional way is bcoz the cylinder paper filter is closer to the bottom than the hose. If oil came in, start to flood the filter, the TOP hose will start to suck the filter instead.

Either way is right/wrong. Its just preference. Zeone's way tahan lama sikit the filter, the fact is sucking more oil in then my way. My way taking air more than oil, but you'll have to monitor your oil level regularly. That's about it. I will try to meetup with 911 again, hope he can snap some photo and help me do a write up in Bahasa for the benefit of our Malay friends.

Gotta go. Busy with work.
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post Sep 6 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 6 2012, 01:28 PM)
You need to buy the OBD scanner first below

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=113&t=1792872
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void warranty tak?
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post Sep 6 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Sep 6 2012, 01:43 PM)
void warranty tak?
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hmm.gif Why you think this thing can void warranty? This one plug and play. You no plug in, it won't "play". brows.gif
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post Sep 6 2012, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 6 2012, 01:34 PM)
Actually that's what YOU said, not me brows.gif
That's exactly what I told YAB when I was having TT with His Highness once blink.gif
19 hg/in idling? I'm jeles. Me only get 17 at the most dry.gif
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Did I told you? Then I must have confused, somebody teach me that during midnight run rclxub.gif but I think I started to believing in the religion after our midnight run TT laugh.gif

If the fuel being totally cut off, hmm? wouldn't that result in a huge jerk when you step on the gas pedal again? Have you try push start? When somebody pushing your car(nothing goes in combustian chamber), you engage gear and let the chamber take pressure from the wheels, step on petrol to pour fuel in, let the huge combustian self ignite the A/F mixture then your jerk until vomit inside the car.

Anyways, those are theory. Correct me if I'm wrong. May be somehow EFI did managed to soled the no fuel go in but engine done die issue nod.gif now only mengsuan & dares worth believing as the 2 of you having OBD reading, you can read the fuel supply during downhill right? So, I may be wrong. But forsure I'm not going to practice lean burning on my iswaga period.
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post Sep 6 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 6 2012, 01:53 PM)
Did I told you? Then I must have confused, somebody teach me that during midnight run rclxub.gif but I think I started to believing in the religion after our midnight run TT laugh.gif

If the fuel being totally cut off, hmm? wouldn't that result in a huge jerk when you step on the gas pedal again? Have you try push start? When somebody pushing your car(nothing goes in combustian chamber), you engage gear and let the chamber take pressure from the wheels, step on petrol to pour fuel in, let the huge combustian self ignite the A/F mixture then your jerk until vomit inside the car.

Anyways, those are theory. Correct me if I'm wrong. May be somehow EFI did managed to soled the no fuel go in but engine done die issue nod.gif now only mengsuan & dares worth believing as the 2 of you having OBD reading, you can read the fuel supply during downhill right? So, I may be wrong. But forsure I'm not going to practice lean burning on my iswaga period.
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Actually IINM the owner's manual doesn't recommend that we try push starting the Gaga unsure.gif

I live on a hill here and there's quite a long stretch downhill whenever I leave my house. I just coast downhill in 4th gear at about 50 km/h. If I step on the throttle while coasting I can notice the engine kick back to life, so that's why I believe our Gaga has the fuel cut off while coasting in gear icon_rolleyes.gif

Anyway Datuk Dares can try out with his new OBBBBBDDDD IIIIIIIII reader and see if the fuel flow rate goes to 0 whenever he coasts downhill, cos CVT got engine breaking rite. That should put the matter to rest.


Added on September 6, 2012, 2:05 pm
QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 6 2012, 12:38 PM)
got ghosts tumpang his ride.
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Hantu mana ada berat whistling.gif

This post has been edited by lhwj: Sep 6 2012, 02:05 PM
dares
post Sep 6 2012, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Sep 6 2012, 01:43 PM)
void warranty tak?
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If like that also void warranty then you cucuk pen drive into your HU also void warrant dy shakehead.gif

Nonetheless it is advisable to remove it when servis keta coz the technicians may wanna cucuk your OBD port, nanti dier monyet kasi hilang then you moneyflies.gif


Added on September 6, 2012, 2:21 pm
QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 6 2012, 01:34 PM)
Actually that's what YOU said, not me brows.gif
That's exactly what I told YAB when I was having TT with His Highness once blink.gif
19 hg/in idling? I'm jeles. Me only get 17 at the most dry.gif
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Jeles buat ape, you get 20000 km/l, I only get 2 m/l sleep.gif

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post Sep 6 2012, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(saga_911 @ Sep 6 2012, 01:04 PM)
Betul ape yg unker cakap tu?
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Sorry...but no comments... blush.gif
If different design of Fuel Filter, me really not know...
Me no expert...

Use for abt 15-20 Km and see how lo...
If works ok, then good & well ... thumbup.gif

For ref, pls chk up ole ole Saga/Iswara threads a few years back...or mayb refer 2Bro Drexchan...?

We here hv only ONE objective...help one another improve & enjoy our Gagas. True? cheers.gif
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post Sep 6 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Sep 6 2012, 02:22 PM)
We here hv only ONE objective...help one another improve & enjoy our Gagas. True? cheers.gif
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You forgot one more...

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Added on September 6, 2012, 2:29 pm
QUOTE(dares @ Sep 6 2012, 02:18 PM)
Jeles buat ape, you get 20000 km/l, I only get 2 m/l sleep.gif
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Penang traffic has killed my consumption lately. Go see Fuelly.

(Psssttt 6.8 L/100km was for a trip to Ipoh so that doesn't count)

This post has been edited by lhwj: Sep 6 2012, 02:29 PM
iskazulka
post Sep 6 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 6 2012, 03:02 PM)
Hantu mana ada berat whistling.gif
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actually, in some cases, ride motorcycle became heavy. 1 case, ride car, suddenly all lights, including headlamps, tail light, all shut-off. after a while, all back to normal. happens to my friend's friend.
sorry, didn't want to scare you guys purposely...

eqmal197
post Sep 6 2012, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 6 2012, 02:18 PM)
If like that also void warranty then you cucuk pen drive into your HU also void warrant dy shakehead.gif

Nonetheless it is advisable to remove it when servis keta coz the technicians may wanna cucuk your OBD port, nanti dier monyet kasi hilang then you moneyflies.gif
ooo.. didnt void la... i see i see. thanks
sorry la. my gaga very the new. nanti salah usik, void.... sad.gif
last history had given me a lesson... blush.gif
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post Sep 6 2012, 02:35 PM

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later if i cucuk eqmal's car with lidi, void warranty ady. lololol.
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post Sep 6 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 6 2012, 02:31 PM)
actually, in some cases, ride motorcycle became heavy. 1 case, ride car, suddenly all lights, including headlamps, tail light, all shut-off. after a while, all back to normal. happens to my friend's friend.
sorry, didn't want to scare you guys purposely...
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Battery terminal loose la. Must be a Proton whistling.gif

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