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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V30, with <3s

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lhwj
post Sep 6 2012, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 6 2012, 10:58 AM)

A side note from previous midnight run with lhwj. Luke cleverly assumed the vacuum reading as KM/L, on an average bassis driving consistently at 15in/hg can actually represent 15km/l on an averaging bassis. The previous MRR2 midnight runs yielded Luke 20.5km/l, whereas I managed to clocked 16km/l kinda phenomenon FC on a BLM SE. Credit goes to Luke & his lovely BLM SE

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Actually that's what YOU said, not me brows.gif

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 6 2012, 12:30 PM)
On new EFI engine, fuel supply is cut on downhill. It doesn't burn lean, there's just simply nothing to burn. The combustion chamber temperature should not rise excessively just because of downhill high vacuum reading.

For carburettor engine, the lean burn may occur. Disengaging the gear on EFI engine will cause fuel to be injected again during downhill, wasting some fuel.

From Toyota: http://forum.diyefi.org/download/file.php?...a086b&mode=view
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That's exactly what I told YAB when I was having TT with His Highness once blink.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Sep 6 2012, 12:58 PM)
Gua mia idling readouts. No aircon.

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19 hg/in idling? I'm jeles. Me only get 17 at the most dry.gif


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post Sep 6 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 6 2012, 01:53 PM)
Did I told you? Then I must have confused, somebody teach me that during midnight run rclxub.gif but I think I started to believing in the religion after our midnight run TT laugh.gif

If the fuel being totally cut off, hmm? wouldn't that result in a huge jerk when you step on the gas pedal again? Have you try push start? When somebody pushing your car(nothing goes in combustian chamber), you engage gear and let the chamber take pressure from the wheels, step on petrol to pour fuel in, let the huge combustian self ignite the A/F mixture then your jerk until vomit inside the car.

Anyways, those are theory. Correct me if I'm wrong. May be somehow EFI did managed to soled the no fuel go in but engine done die issue nod.gif now only mengsuan & dares worth believing as the 2 of you having OBD reading, you can read the fuel supply during downhill right? So, I may be wrong. But forsure I'm not going to practice lean burning on my iswaga period.
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Actually IINM the owner's manual doesn't recommend that we try push starting the Gaga unsure.gif

I live on a hill here and there's quite a long stretch downhill whenever I leave my house. I just coast downhill in 4th gear at about 50 km/h. If I step on the throttle while coasting I can notice the engine kick back to life, so that's why I believe our Gaga has the fuel cut off while coasting in gear icon_rolleyes.gif

Anyway Datuk Dares can try out with his new OBBBBBDDDD IIIIIIIII reader and see if the fuel flow rate goes to 0 whenever he coasts downhill, cos CVT got engine breaking rite. That should put the matter to rest.


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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 6 2012, 12:38 PM)
got ghosts tumpang his ride.
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Hantu mana ada berat whistling.gif

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post Sep 6 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Sep 6 2012, 02:22 PM)
We here hv only ONE objective...help one another improve & enjoy our Gagas. True? cheers.gif
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Added on September 6, 2012, 2:29 pm
QUOTE(dares @ Sep 6 2012, 02:18 PM)
Jeles buat ape, you get 20000 km/l, I only get 2 m/l sleep.gif
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Penang traffic has killed my consumption lately. Go see Fuelly.

(Psssttt 6.8 L/100km was for a trip to Ipoh so that doesn't count)

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post Sep 6 2012, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 6 2012, 10:19 PM)
EBD and BA cannot switch off also lololol doh.gif
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post Sep 7 2012, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Sep 7 2012, 12:18 AM)
was fuelling my gaga at petronas with the slowest flow rate. suddently feel that my leg basah. the petrol was actually overflowing! pushed the emergency stop button and start looking for tissues to clean the body. but no tissue found.

is it normal that the pump will not auto stop if fuelling at the lowest flow?
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Happened to me before a few times vmad.gif

Tissues aren't enough. You need to quickly find the watering can and basuh the affected area with lots of water immediately, or else the petrol will discolour your paint (like on mine cry.gif)

Oh do let us know which station and pump number so it we can blacklist it icon_idea.gif


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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 6 2012, 11:27 PM)
LOLOLOLOL  pwned by wifu ph34r.gif

go bedroom buat ape ya?  hmm.gif


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Dan replace with FS  brows.gif Firestormed brakes...fuhh
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Reduces your braking distance by half laugh.gif


Added on September 7, 2012, 8:19 am
QUOTE(garybenjamin @ Sep 7 2012, 12:39 AM)
Beside have to go complaint the brake  mad.gif ald fully braked but the car move more fast than never brake luckily i pull hand brake fast enuf if not more serious shit (and i'm in free gear position).

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So you stepped hard on the brake but the car didn't stop? hmm.gif

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post Sep 7 2012, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 7 2012, 09:11 AM)

3) Brake jam 9 jor. 2 conditions:
A) got bubble inside brake lines
B) he hit the brakes too hard, tyre ady stop spinning, but momentum too hai keeping the inertia go on
Think its just plain unfortunate situation. Felt sorry for his loss though. Normally if car wouldn't stop, best is keep pumping the brakes whilst pull henbrek. If only pull henbrek will bcum gymkhana instead blink.gif
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I got a third theory. The brakes is powered by engine vacuum right? If you tekan throttle until vacuum gauge points at 0, means there's no vacuum to power your brakes shocking.gif
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post Sep 7 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 7 2012, 11:05 AM)
If it works for FLX SE then it should work for FLX. Siape FLX wanna test? Come come TT


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The second you lift of throttle vacuum will return ma. Unless you heel toe or press brake with your left foot lar
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 7 2012, 11:10 AM)
Partially correct nod.gif

When full throttle, meaning no restriction. Engine suck how much, the air filter will take how much. If your air filter so damn dirty, even full throttle your vacuum will still point at 1-2in/hg laugh.gif

When vacuum 0, also meaning piston draw air directly from the biggest inlet(air intake pipe) whereas brake assistent need vacumized from intake manifold. So, your theory is right. Brake assistant will not exist under full throttle(even if there is will be very limited).

Your partial right will be totally non-sense. Regardless manual/auto, you only use right foot to control brake/gas pedal. When you full throttle sprint, you don't press on brake. When emergency brake, no point hit the gas, throttle shut, gain vacuum, brake pump full force vacumized. Last but not least, when you heel & toe, what action 1st? Brake first, then clutch followed by rev up, release clutch and gas pedal icon_idea.gif still got brake.
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I actually meant this might happen to those who drive auto with both feet. Could be that they tekan brake with their left foot while not realising that the right foot is at full throttle.

But I checked, GaryBenjamin drives a manual, so it's not plausible that this happened in his case.
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post Sep 7 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 7 2012, 11:30 AM)
who would be that driver?  shocking.gif
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My aunt. She told me she's been doing that since she learnt how to drive whistling.gif

You know sometimes you see cars with their brake light on while they're cruising? Left foot brakers lor.
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post Sep 7 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 7 2012, 11:33 AM)
me day 10 without BLM... sad.gif
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How's both your repair jobs going?
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post Sep 7 2012, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 7 2012, 11:37 AM)
i wonder any sensor to detect manual gear whether in gear or not... hmm.gif
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I think if the sensor sees the RPM falling quickly then the ECU knows either you're pressing the clutch or gear is neutral.
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post Sep 7 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 7 2012, 11:39 AM)
gila crazy.
wondered who the one who teach her driving.....  sweat.gif
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I wonder too hmm.gif But like all of us she prolly learnt on a manual, then while driving auto they think they can keep their left foot busy with braking...
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post Sep 7 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 7 2012, 11:43 AM)
Wednesday went to see, all bumper+front bumper support bar not spray, boot just touch up, not spray yet..i estimate at least still need 1 week+. sad.gif
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 7 2012, 11:41 AM)
adjusters called yesterday... workshop start to work on my car adi... estimate 10 days for workshop to finish the job and then others need 1 or 2 days such as sport rims and absorbers tuning and so on... sad.gif
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All right. Hope you get your ride back soon smile.gif

QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 7 2012, 11:50 AM)
sweat.gif  sweat.gif  me also using both foot sumtimes...hahah
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I wonder if that has anything to do with your tranny acting up recently hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 7 2012, 01:44 PM)
Meanwhile, just finished my tank of Primax 95.

510.3km/43.03litre
8.4litre/100km
11.9km/litre


Iswaga's tank seems really big hmm.gif

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Very comfortable ride. Overtaking/sudden acceleration jerk like shit.


How can these two sentences make sense together laugh.gif

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Currently running on SHELL V-Power 95. After this will be Caltex Techron 95. Will be back to ESSO/MOBIL/PETRON before conclusion.
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IMHO it's best to try two or three full tanks of a certain fuel if you wanna test.

Anyways LC2K recommends Petronas Primax 95 Xtra icon_idea.gif rclxms.gif thumbup.gif


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post Sep 7 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(vampirewong @ Sep 7 2012, 03:49 PM)
This is the info for the Boost gauge from Rev2.

It says negative (-) value indicates vacuum. Does this means it is showing vacuum readings? Also the units can be set is either psi or kpa.
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Boost? Your Gaga ada turbo kah? laugh.gif I believe that gauge is showing an incorrect reading as it is impossible to have positive pressure in a N/A engine.

Vacuum readings should be in inches of mercury, in/hg.

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post Sep 7 2012, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 7 2012, 05:08 PM)
But hor, I think a physical vacuum gauge is more macho  flex.gif
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And more responsive too brows.gif

I gotta get my gauge installed properly. Later YAB scold me on his next visit sweat.gif

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post Sep 8 2012, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 7 2012, 08:58 PM)
This is today on the way home. Do you think if report this to government, they're going to take any action against the vehicle owner? shakehead.gif
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I was wondering what were you gonna show us. Insane potong here potong there driving? Rupanya hutan bakar saja laugh.gif

QUOTE(zeone @ Sep 7 2012, 06:35 PM)
Juz4comparison, my latest outstation trip of 127+Km, FC worked out 2b 10.954 Km/L or 9.129L/100Km.
Mostly HiWay...<10% City?
2me, good enuf lo...

Wat say other Bros?  tongue.gif

ps. For 1.3FL Auto Exec.
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LC2K's unprofessional opinion: too hai. The maximum consumption you should get should be around 8L/100km.

Looks like the old 4AT really sucks fuel like crazy shakehead.gif And the fact that GPMM can beat me 9 9 means the CVT really works.

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QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Sep 8 2012, 12:16 AM)
Hey, i'm newbie here. I wanna ask about my saga flx 1.3L when in [P]ark or [N[eutral mode sometimes my engine will like thirsty for a while.
What's happen actually o.0?
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What do you mean, "thirsty"? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 7 2012, 11:42 PM)
I think most of our GG also addicted to petrol whistling.gif
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I've heard wonderful things about the Sawi. Wouldn't mind having a manual one as a second car thumbup.gif

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post Sep 8 2012, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Sep 8 2012, 12:22 AM)
hmm.gif Something like the engine gonna mati engine but after a while then will normal back o.o
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CVT or manual? Silly me, manual won't have P tongue.gif Does it happen only when the engine is cold?


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QUOTE(honamd77 @ Sep 8 2012, 12:24 AM)
Sport rim Saga BLM
With saga flx..can fix ?.TQ.
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Will fit without issues.

Good way to troll others... FLX with BLM rims laugh.gif

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post Sep 8 2012, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Sep 8 2012, 12:28 AM)
CVT, happen after normal driving to somewhere and idle.
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Sounds like not enough fuel injected to keep the engine running. The fact that you're in P or N rules out the gearbox. Have you had it checked at the service centre?
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post Sep 8 2012, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(jaylim94 @ Sep 8 2012, 12:48 AM)
haven, cuz i not sure how to explain this prob -.-
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It's okay if you can't explain, show it to them. Go for a test drive and hope the problem crops up lol.

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