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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V30, with <3s

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wanfauzan
post Sep 8 2012, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 7 2012, 06:10 PM)
Watching youtube.... ohmy.gif May be its time to install cabin camera shakehead.gif Nowadays too many sohigh on the road

Take some time to finish this, I hope everyone of us be responsible enough to make the earth better place to drive doh.gif
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am looking for car dvr, any recommendation? bulk maybe? hmm.gif
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post Sep 8 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Sep 8 2012, 01:57 PM)
am looking for car dvr, any recommendation? bulk maybe?  hmm.gif
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post Sep 8 2012, 02:38 PM

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gangnam style sticker...

siapa mau? lolz
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ini saya ok mau XD

QUOTE(s@ni @ Sep 6 2012, 06:56 AM)
What happen to ur iafm? My fren have iafm module took out from persona..
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maybe kong. removed? then it will be the campro kosong edi.

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 6 2012, 10:58 AM)
Just a quick recap for vacuum assisted driving habit management. Below elaboration solely based on my personal experience and my usual reading in inches/mercury suction(in/hg). For example, if your vacuum reading is 20in/hg, you put your airintake pipe in a pale of mercury, it will suck up 20inches of mercury. Bear in mind, vacuum meaning suction, suction means negative(pressure is positive), so vacuum reading is TERBALIK. Smaller number means UP, greater number means DOWN. 0 vacuum meaning no suction,no pressure.

Idling-engine speed between 800-1000rpm
For Campor engine IAFM. Usual reading without aircon compressor, vacuum should stay between 17-19(more the better). Reading within this region read as the whole engine system is tightly sealed. Safe to assume engine is running on its full potential. Some older model EFI & carbureted engines allowed user to fine tune throttle idling position. Experienced magician normally able to tune the engine idling RPM at 800-1000rpm whilst vacuum reading stay below 20in/hg(below meaning 21,22,23 and so forth). With a vacuum reading on hand, you can withness the powerful SANDEN aircon compressor kick in, straightaway it chew off 4-7 inches of vacuum. Meaning that, the aircon compressor is heavy and took away 1/3 of the engine torque. Normal idling with aircon compressor, reading should be 13-15in/hg. Cold start not applicable.

Usual driving
When you're over taking, you slam on the gas pedal. Vacuum point at 0. Once you release gas pedal, torque will channel back from wheels to your engine, piston pull down hard and your vacuum reading become lower again(higher). When vacuum point at 0 meaning no restriction(lots of air going inside), also meaning petrol pouring inside combustian chamber! For picking up speed, I recommend to maintain vacuum below 10(11,12,13...etc). Do this more often, you'll soon realize no point going full throttle. Those cars that everyday annoys you, that makes you go full throttle to ditch them, you can still dtich them with vacuum pointing at 10.

up hill
When going up hill, even you did not increase throttle, but your vacuum pointer will start travelling up(9,8,7,6...).  This means you need more fuel to burn, in order to achive same speed. For manual transmission, when vacuum pointer go above 5(4,3,2,1,0) meaning your at the wrong gear. Please down shift. Sometimes you'll be surprise higher RPM does not mean you're consuming more petrol. The correct power transmit from engine to wheel is more crucial. That's why gearbox official term is TRANSMISSION.

down hill
Wheels is spinning faster than engine, you will get all sort of error in reading vacuum. Most of the time during down hill, your vacuum reading stay below 23(24,25). When vacuum reading stay below 26, also mean the combustian chamber burning lean. Lean burning can raise temparature up to 800'c. Despite your sensor reading as normal 400'c at the catcon, you wouldn't know what kind of harm done to your head gasket. Often I heard people going Genting come back with a wreck engine despite radiator didn't boil, there's a good chance that the head gasket was burnt during downhill due to ultra heat developed by lean burning. Manual transmission can opt of lower speed downhill. Or declutched at idling RPM. Auto/CVT, I have no experience, you'll have to figure it out.


A side note from previous midnight run with lhwj. Luke cleverly assumed the vacuum reading as KM/L, on an average bassis driving consistently at 15in/hg can actually represent 15km/l on an averaging bassis. The previous MRR2 midnight runs yielded Luke 20.5km/l, whereas I managed to clocked 16km/l kinda phenomenon FC on a BLM SE. Credit goes to Luke & his lovely BLM SE


Like it or not, vacuum reading is utmost important in our daily driving, and its the only thing that globally omitted without even realizing its importance. There are more technical knowledge in vacuum reading, which is too long story to cover. I will try to explain it in future.
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good sharing. seems really nice. vacuum reading can really help that much. so it is suggested to get a vacuum gauge??


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post Sep 8 2012, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Sep 8 2012, 02:38 PM)
ini saya ok mau XD
maybe kong. removed? then it will be the campro kosong edi.
good sharing. seems really nice. vacuum reading can really help that much. so it is suggested to get a vacuum gauge??
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If you persogarian already have android device, might as well get the OBD2 bluetooth dongle, you get much more than just a vacuum gauge. Besides, gauges in cabin is a thief magnet. If those sohigh come and break your windscreen just to take away RM60 worth of gauge, you'll be so damn pissed off.

Besides of petrol saving, vacuum reading can justify the engine health as well. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 8 2012, 02:46 PM

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Got DbW meh? No ark
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post Sep 8 2012, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 8 2012, 02:44 PM)
If you persogarian already have android device, might as well get the OBD2 bluetooth dongle, you get much more than just a vacuum gauge. Besides, gauges in cabin is a thief magnet. If those sohigh come and break your windscreen just to take away RM60 worth of gauge, you'll be so damn pissed off.

Besides of petrol saving, vacuum reading can justify the engine health as well. icon_rolleyes.gif
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the sad thing is the OBD2 is not compatible with my old old car cry.gif
so the only choice will be vacuum gauge. can think of a way to hide the gauge also XD
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post Sep 8 2012, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 8 2012, 02:44 PM)
If you persogarian already have android device, might as well get the OBD2 bluetooth dongle, you get much more than just a vacuum gauge. Besides, gauges in cabin is a thief magnet. If those sohigh come and break your windscreen just to take away RM60 worth of gauge, you'll be so damn pissed off.

Besides of petrol saving, vacuum reading can justify the engine health as well. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 8 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Sep 8 2012, 02:47 PM)
the sad thing is the OBD2 is not compatible with my old old car  cry.gif
so the only choice will be vacuum gauge. can think of a way to hide the gauge also XD
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I used to put very fancy + expansive boost gauge in ma kar, until I got break in and steal away my gauges(there are 10ths of thousand of sound system in the car, but the thief just took away the gauge) doh.gif Ever since, I only use chiplak. Same also, can read then no problem liao.

Previously on BLM, now gave to Luke liao. Don't have latest photo yet. May be tonight lar rolleyes.gif
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Iswaga still the same setup icon_rolleyes.gif
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All my other cars have similar setup, but didn't managed to capture photo lar. Not a camwhore blush.gif After so many years driving with vacuum, I can't live without 1 laugh.gif I have never pay attention to my RPM for a long-long time unless I go racing(then vacuum will be negligible since its gonna always point at 0 - RICH) laugh.gif
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post Sep 8 2012, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 8 2012, 02:08 PM)
can fit on behind our rear view mirror there ?
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post Sep 8 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 8 2012, 02:57 PM)
I used to put very fancy + expansive boost gauge in ma kar, until I got break in and steal away my gauges(there are 10ths of thousand of sound system in the car, but the thief just took away the gauge) doh.gif Ever since, I only use chiplak. Same also, can read then no problem liao.

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hmm, the car thief is not the "sek fo" type. Even my neighbour car outlook damn old but kena break in then only we know that his sound system is damn expensive. that type thief call "sek fo".
for me i think i want functinality. but i really cannot think of where to put the gauge for easy viewing. your gauge still quite pretty. Chiplak punya ke??maybe you just mod rpm take it out and change it to vacuum XD lol~~

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post Sep 8 2012, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 8 2012, 01:04 PM)
yayaya taiko.....

ignore my post pulak~!  doh.gif  doh.gif
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post Sep 8 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 8 2012, 11:52 AM)
doh.gif
saga DIY? sap sap water lar.. easy as 1 2 3.
kasih u orang tau dulu ya, saga can fit in properly for front logo only. rear logo is smaller compared to front, so my emblem canot fit in the rear properly ya. nod.gif
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Oh? Then very sorry la, Bro...
Paiseh liao...blush.gif

In view of abv, Pls change my order to juz ONE (1) pc. TQ. notworthy.gif


QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 8 2012, 03:03 PM)

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Bro TS, cld yu pls change my order in Bulk List to juz 1pc as per abv?
TQ in adv.

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TSkenjilew
post Sep 8 2012, 03:37 PM

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post Sep 8 2012, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 8 2012, 03:03 PM)
can fit on behind our rear view mirror there ?
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Stick on windscreen, the rearview mirror split to half LCD that type RM500

QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Sep 8 2012, 03:15 PM)
hmm, the car thief is not the "sek fo" type. Even my neighbour car outlook damn old but kena break in then only we know that his sound system is damn expensive. that type thief call "sek fo".
for me i think i want functinality. but i really cannot think of where to put the gauge for easy viewing. your gauge still quite pretty. Chiplak punya ke??maybe you just mod rpm take it out and change it to vacuum XD lol~~
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I always on A-Pillar. Luke is a little weird thoughm he posted picture before, but can't remember where is it. Wait for him to show you how he did it sweat.gif

Btw, forgot I got video of my gauge. This is my current setup on GaGa

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 8 2012, 03:38 PM)
Stick on windscreen, the rearview mirror split to half LCD that type RM500
I always on A-Pillar. Luke is a little weird thoughm he posted picture before, but can't remember where is it. Wait for him to show you how he did it sweat.gif

Btw, forgot I got video of my gauge. This is my current setup on GaGa

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stick on windscreen behind rearview mirror... ok tak ?
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 8 2012, 03:39 PM)
stick on windscreen behind rearview mirror... ok tak ?
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I dunno wor, I haven't buy wor unsure.gif
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YAB, I was wondering yesterday LC2K said he jeli my 19-20in/Hg idling vacuum because he max only get 17, is it because my displacement is 1.6l but throttle body size is the same as you guys, hence the stronger vacuum? which means my idling is not more fuel efficient, it just sucks more air laugh.gif


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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 8 2012, 02:57 PM)

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post Sep 8 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 8 2012, 03:38 PM)
Stick on windscreen, the rearview mirror split to half LCD that type RM500
I always on A-Pillar. Luke is a little weird thoughm he posted picture before, but can't remember where is it. Wait for him to show you how he did it sweat.gif

Btw, forgot I got video of my gauge. This is my current setup on GaGa
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Weird ah blink.gif


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post Sep 8 2012, 04:17 PM

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Judging from the amount of treads left, time to change anyway hmm.gif


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QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 8 2012, 04:13 PM)
Weird ah blink.gif
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Poor Vacuum gauge. ade tisu box teman.

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