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post Sep 2 2012, 10:54 AM

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u need to keep reving to get power. vrooom vroom.
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post Sep 2 2012, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(SoZa @ Sep 2 2012, 09:32 AM)
the reason of sluggishness is to comply with european emission regulation, and the characteristic of cvt itself. try to compare with few other car with cvt transmission, then give us what you think.
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on my xtronic cvt, very responsive, continuous power thro out acceleration, rpm doesnt drop and no cut off power during gear change like manual or conventional auto cars..
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post Sep 2 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(SoZa @ Sep 2 2012, 09:56 AM)
Than you, Nissan currently have the best CVT in the market. Unlike other CVT in the market that use steel belt, Nissan use toroidal CVT which can withstand higher torque.

nissan toroidal CVT only found on one rare model of skyline sedan. xtronic cvt are using belt cvt
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post Sep 2 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Sep 1 2012, 05:48 PM)
u must test drive if u have the chance.

the cvt in potong insaplah is miles ahead comparedto pravia.

1. noisy . so damn noisy at low speed.
2. at high speed, when change gear, noacceleration feeling, just number is changing and engine roar like lorry.

insaplah is quiet, and have the manual like feeling in manual mode( not entirely manual, but, i say 40 % feeling) when u downshift, it lures and goes faster and faster. when upshift, it will have the upshift feeling, like, hey, u decided not to strain the engine, thanks pal.

but pravia, hmm....no feeling in 3456 gear. only 1,2 gear has feeling.
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this car have turbo right? probably the tuning is not good so when its in low gear it got feel .. high gear need to higher rev to get the feel.. anyway i haven test drive it .. but insaplah's ok la ..
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post Sep 2 2012, 11:12 AM

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what stupid fool dumb shit word u used?

Potong 'INSAPLAH'?

just go to hell u.not same thread again..
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post Sep 2 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(izzizahari @ Sep 2 2012, 10:47 AM)
not sure about 1.6 forte coz didnt drive it, but the cvt 2.0 inspira also lack feel of speed. even myvi feels powderfol than inspira in term of pulling feel (but actually inspirar is faster acceleration). i guess its just cvt characteristics.

other than the acceleration, cvt sound, engine power, your other review is the same experience as me.

the only real competitor for preve is forte, city, inspira with preve win the best bang of buck, but lacking prestige and slight quality drawback.
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This is how a review should be made.... rclxms.gif
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post Sep 2 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(izzizahari @ Sep 2 2012, 10:47 AM)
not sure about 1.6 forte coz didnt drive it, but the cvt 2.0 inspira also lack feel of speed. even myvi feels powderfol than inspira in term of pulling feel (but actually inspirar is faster acceleration). i guess its just cvt characteristics.

other than the acceleration, cvt sound, engine power, your other review is the same experience as me.

the only real competitor for preve is forte, city, inspira with preve win the best bang of buck, but lacking prestige and slight quality drawback.
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you are right, but at 80-140kmh, its totally different.

i tried at 4th gear pull to 5500rpm. and then 5th gear, in insaplah ( must thank the SA for his patience, recommended by a fren of mine, otherwise i cant test for such a long time, spent like more than 1 hr)

well....er....you should try that smile.gif

cant have the similar result with pravia cvt&engine combo
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QUOTE(kcgboyz @ Sep 2 2012, 11:12 AM)
what stupid fool dumb shit word u used?

Potong 'INSAPLAH'?

just go to hell u.not same thread again..
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LMAO


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bro, 114a....114a
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post Sep 2 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Sep 2 2012, 10:49 AM)
myvi, vios avanza.. .. u drive at 100.. feel like driving at 150

preve.... u drive at 150.. feel like driving at 100


Added on September 2, 2012, 10:51 amcity and vios got no.. 4 airbags, ESP... thats why rakyat ops to PREVE...heheh

ah beng butthurt
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definitely, really hard for me to drive fast on myvi, feels the car too fast. taking corner when >100kmh is too scary
i never drive preve yet but i drive persona before and the cornering (high speed) definitely better than myvi

so i bet preve must be better than persona at least
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post Sep 2 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Sep 2 2012, 10:23 AM)
Bro, Proton is suppose to luanch Preve in Australia this month, you write review like that how are  those Assie dare to buy Preve? BTW all the PROFESSIONAL car reviewers never  write anything close to what you write, ALL of them said PREVE can reach top speed 200km/h easily and pride of continental standard

if PREVE is flop in Australia it will flop in M'sia too
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my review( actually is test drive experience, solely focus on speed ) is not a complete one. i'm more to the speed part, and i can see they look at insaplah, and improve on stuff that insaplah lack of. Such as the arm rest, the teh tarik hook, and the boot. that is a thumbup.gif to them
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post Sep 2 2012, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Sep 2 2012, 11:53 AM)
you are right, but at 80-140kmh, its totally different.

i tried at 4th gear pull to 5500rpm. and then 5th gear, in insaplah ( must thank the SA for his patience, recommended by a fren of mine, otherwise i cant test for such a long time, spent like more than 1 hr)

well....er....you should try that smile.gif

cant have the similar result with pravia cvt&engine combo
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I think u get his wrong... What he said.. Myvi vios feels fast but actually not fast.. Coz when u drive them fast.. U feel floating n sound comes everywhere make u feel the car so fast...


Yet preve.. U drive at 150 .. So stable n silent.. And u feel the car not fast.. But actually its fast

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post Sep 2 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Sep 2 2012, 12:37 PM)
I think u get his wrong... What he said.. Myvi vios feels fast but actually not fast.. Coz when u drive them fast.. U feel floating n sound comes everywhere make u feel the car so fast...
Yet preve.. U drive at 150 .. So stable n silent.. And u feel the car not fast.. But actually its fast
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Agree
Driven Ford Ranger, Ford Everest, Hyundai Sonata and Toyota Hilux many times adi.
At 140km/h
No feel.
Feel like at 100km/h.

Then those lala myvi and saga have to gtfo cause their car is flying.

Ironically my car is Saga.
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But the fastest speed I ever had in a car in VW Golf.
Haha almost 220km/h

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post Sep 2 2012, 01:06 PM

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TS not a neutral car reviewer, enough said... he just go test drive with target in mind to really bash no matter how good that car is whistling.gif ..

if not, he will use proper name for proton car and not pravia or insaplah.. typical malaysian whistling.gif ..

but in the end, just dont listen to others, its ur money so better test drive first before buy.. if its good enough for u, why care about others stoopid comments...
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post Sep 2 2012, 01:08 PM

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Thank god sales for this car is shittier than expected. Pls go bankrupt faster proton
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post Sep 2 2012, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(zeroonetwo @ Sep 2 2012, 01:08 PM)
Thank god sales for this car is shittier than expected. Pls go bankrupt faster proton
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proton didnt publish breakdown for june 2012 sales figure..
I wonder how many sold, ?

for April+may = 3k + only from the reports online.
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post Sep 2 2012, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(zeroonetwo @ Sep 2 2012, 01:08 PM)
Thank god sales for this car is shittier than expected. Pls go bankrupt faster proton
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The market disagree with you, in Jan-June 2012 Perodua sell 92,923 units, Proton sell 72,836 units meanwhile Toyota sell 36,162 units. half of Proton and Perodua sale volumes

Source
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post Sep 2 2012, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(SoZa @ Sep 2 2012, 01:16 PM)
The market disagree with you, in Jan-June 2012 Perodua sell 92,923 units, Proton sell 72,836 units meanwhile Toyota sell 36,162 units. half of Proton and Perodua sale volumes

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err.. i'm sure you would like to compare national cars with each other (like P1 vs P2) and other imported brands separately? hmm.gif
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post Sep 2 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 2 2012, 01:18 PM)
err.. i'm sure you would like to compare national cars with each other (like P1 vs P2) and other imported brands separately?  hmm.gif
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in the source link there are everything, besides what model they sell the most.
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post Sep 2 2012, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(mzack1104 @ Sep 2 2012, 01:06 PM)
TS not a neutral car reviewer, enough said... he just go test drive with target in mind to really bash no matter how good that car is whistling.gif ..

if not, he will use proper name for proton car and not pravia or insaplah.. typical malaysian whistling.gif ..

but in the end, just dont listen to others, its ur money so better test drive first before buy.. if its good enough for u, why care about others stoopid comments...
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+1

read, remember the salient point, and test drive urself to judge. in the end, its ur money.

as TS say he is petrolhead, surely preve not to his liking (performance wise), i agree. preve is like a family car, not design for hard acc and speed. my petrolhead cousin say preve is a girl car as it doest not jerk or 'feel the acc' at all (of coz compared to his manual integra).

i own persona, preve is my sis car, inspira is my dads car and accord 2.4 (2005) is our family car.

preve is like luxury version of persona(comfort, feel, noise insulation) with improved power, nothing more.

accord>inspira>preve>persona. like the old saying, there is no replacement for displacement tongue.gif . and with a bigger displacement, a bigger built car with more luxury and comfort.

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post Sep 2 2012, 01:22 PM

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what is pravia? a pariah car?

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