As someone who is interested in cars, today i finally get to test drive this potong pravia .

put aside the interior design and everything, will discuss purely on the test drive experience.

Findings:
1. a lot of teh tarik hooks,
2. big boot space
3. rear sear design could be better, not comfy ( compared to potong insaplah, which is conveniently available in the same showroom )
4. handbrake design could be better.
5. arm rest height way better than potong insaplah.

Test drive
1. 1st and 2nd gear ratio makes the car lures fast.
2. 3rd 4th 5th gear is....slow. very slow. i feel like changing it makes the car roar, but do not feel any accerelation. ( yes, i did check the speedometer, saturday 9am morning, highway is clear, no car, so i can speed and look at the meter without fear)
3. at below 60km/h, the cvt noise is crazy. omg..this is the biggest problem, way way bigger than anything. so fcking noisy. the turbo noise is nothing compared to this.
4. when wanna change lane, the car is powerless at 80kmh. i feel very very not confident to cut out and accelerate. in short, acceleration at 80kmh can be better.
5. tried 80 to 140 on an empty road. well, i have better experience in 1.6 and 2.0 forte, 308thp, and 1.8/2.0civic. in short, even 1.6forte feels more power. is that cvt that bad?
6. handling, tried do some funny cornering. not bad, but, i did the similar kind of cornering with honda insight, pretty similar. and those are not funny stunt we do daily. so, no clear advantage even for proton handling.
7. this car will make rear passenger car sick. the tuning might be for sporty handling, but the power doesnt match, so i would prefer the tuning they done to insaplah( which i tested back to back). the insaplah is way faster, way better, and rear passenger will not car sick when i do fast driving. for pravia, normal driving already causes car sick....hmmm.

tldr version : rm72999 i would recommend my frens cars below
1. if u wan fast and furious, dont care about fc, just have this budget, can take a look at 1.6 forte low spec. and the car is very quiet compared to pravia.
2. family man, can consider vios, which is cheap to run, faster in city run(due to lower weight, aka milotin)
3. really a petrolhead, 1.8 manual inspira. will eat this car, anywhere, anytime, and make your rear passenger comfy when u smoking ppl/pravia on the road.
4. buy pravia, when u just to buy a proton at this budget, with all the bells and whistles and 4 airbags. dont think too much on performance. and invest in sound proof.

competitior.
1. any two liter car : pravia is no match from 80kmh onwards. below 80 need to drag in real life in order to know.
2. city vios : those car has better power to weight ratio and returns better FC. similar priced vios with lower interest rate,
3. 308thp: a very good car with a very good engine. pravia cant even smell smoke. tested 190 on kesas in 308thp for test drive. pravia i hunt gears to try to push it beyond140 in auto, S, manual mode.

this is my finding.

if u have rm72999, must buy a top spec car with good bang for buck, pravia it is. but, also can take a look at my comment and judge which type of buyer you are.

inbe4 pravia test drive car spoilt, not using latest ecu and so on.


Engine
1.6 CFE is to fix the disadvantages on 1.6 campro. but to say its a match to 2.0NA....i dont think so.

kindly go to any peugeot showroom to test 1.6 turbo prince engine, that is a 1.6 turbo done right. ( and the salesman would love to let you try, because they are pretty sure it will seal the deal )

Alert:
CVT whines, very loud ( at least on the test drive car, and also, maybe the car is relatively quiet, so it makes the whine very very apparent.)



This post has been edited by stinger82: Sep 2 2012, 09:52 AM

1.8 manual inspira for me

i've driven preve, city, civic 2.0, lancer, and vios. preve pwn them all.

before i clicked this thread, in my mind was 'fuk this shit inspira ftw'

Preve top quality - on par with 3 Series, A4, C-Class

The CVT is the major let down in the car. Other than that should be all good.

I wanna drive

Preve it greatest car ever make by humankind

so STFU ts

i dont care....coz i will not buying any potong car

Preve is a Proton attempt to produce world class car (at last). Though their intention is good, but they are too forgiving. To many of their managers and engineers have become too complacent in the long years of federal protectianism. They need to whip up some asses if they want to compete.

best car in the world is inspira

second one is preve

u must test drive if u have the chance.

the cvt in potong insaplah is miles ahead comparedto pravia.

1. noisy . so damn noisy at low speed.
2. at high speed, when change gear, noacceleration feeling, just number is changing and engine roar like lorry.

insaplah is quiet, and have the manual like feeling in manual mode( not entirely manual, but, i say 40 % feeling) when u downshift, it lures and goes faster and faster. when upshift, it will have the upshift feeling, like, hey, u decided not to strain the engine, thanks pal.

but pravia, hmm....no feeling in 3456 gear. only 1,2 gear has feeling.

moar positive comments liek diz need to be published!

First up I'd like to clarify that there are no gears in a CVT.

The gears are a set of virtual ratios controlled by the ECU or TCU.

It's nothing a reprogram can't fix if the gearbox can take the torque but I guess Punch/Proton decided to program it in a conservative manner.

i guess jatco is better than punch.

the cvt in nissan slyphy is also very good, very responsive.

All manufacturers will be conservative with TCU programming since warrantying a gearbox is nuts and plus with 10 years powertrain warranty some manufacturers are offers, it becomes an issue of cost.

Even Mitsubishi/Getrag, my GB shifts like a grandmother in normal mode. Which ironically destroys the clutch plates faster lol.

The CVT in inspira used torque based converter. The one in preve used wet clutch CVT.

A wet clutch should always transfer power better than a torque converter but at the expense of noise.

My Getrag has heaps of clutch noise.

Honestly I don't even care, my family doesn't even know it exists I'm just glad the sales aren't as good as expected.