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TSxyyap
post Mar 14 2013, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(macho dog @ Mar 14 2013, 09:55 PM)
geng notworthy.gif u r taikor sure can hold so long unfortunately not so many can afford to do so.
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There are many here. But we are NOT.

If u don't play like that, yet entering now, chances of u making money, is quite low.

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post Mar 14 2013, 10:38 PM

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there r shops selling pork n alcohol in cyber la bro.
so far no SPA lor...... smile.gif

QUOTE(Ah jib @ Mar 14 2013, 05:29 PM)
Really ??
I think cyberjaya is a Halal place , no pork,no alcohol,no disco,no pub, no spa?
Don't think china Chinese would like this place
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post Mar 15 2013, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Mar 14 2013, 08:51 PM)
Example of their success?  Share share pls.

Wat is the potential of cyber? Need to wait how long?
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M-Suite, not yet complete already flip 45%
Check on One Jelatek too. They also the first buyer of Metroview Condo at Wangsa Maju, u can check the price n see launch price n current price.
Hamsphire Place and also Penang property.

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post Mar 15 2013, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Mar 14 2013, 09:54 PM)
I like the way u shared information.

Can share which industry are u from? So that we can justify your information better? Thanks.
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I'm a something like broker, I help few of my friend from china manage their fund. If you know some high-end property agent, you can ask them about a group of Chinese player in market, I work as their fund manager like that. Oso help many western Embassy in property matter. Just lucky when in Uni time, I know all this rich guy.

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post Mar 15 2013, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Mar 14 2013, 09:50 PM)
I warn flipper to think twice, yet almost all HERs & SOHO BBB...

I also puzzled...
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My friend they all more on service residence too or shop boutique, they said soho seem like not a very good invest in cyber. They just invest like not more then 10 there. But they said if soho in KL area, then different story, they oso buy M-city at Jalan Ampang
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post Mar 15 2013, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(leejheng @ Mar 15 2013, 12:10 AM)
My friend they all more on service residence too or shop boutique, they said soho seem like not a very good invest in cyber.  They just invest like not more then 10 there.  But they said if soho in KL area, then different story, they oso buy M-city at Jalan Ampang
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Lake View Residency is good for investment also.

no downpayment
20% Rebate
1145sf
2 car park
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QUOTE(Calvinlaw84 @ Mar 15 2013, 01:35 PM)
Lake View Residency is good for investment also.

no downpayment
20% Rebate
1145sf
2 car park
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Pm me some pricing about this
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QUOTE(leejheng @ Mar 15 2013, 12:03 AM)
M-Suite, not yet complete already flip 45%
Check on One Jelatek too. They also the first buyer of Metroview Condo at Wangsa Maju, u can check the price n see launch price n current price.
Hamsphire Place and also Penang property.
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Penang next highrise target will be?

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QUOTE(leejheng @ Mar 15 2013, 12:06 AM)
I'm a something like broker, I help few of my friend from china manage their fund.  If you know some high-end property agent, you can ask them about a group of Chinese player in market, I work as their fund manager like that. Oso help many western Embassy in property matter.  Just lucky when in Uni time, I know all this rich guy.
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Nice job. How I wish I will be...

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post Mar 15 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Mar 15 2013, 01:45 PM)
Penang next highrise target will be?
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Check on BSG property, their new launch and oso butterworth
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post Mar 15 2013, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Mar 15 2013, 01:22 PM)
No doubt the risk is higher to buy now.


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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Mar 15 2013, 05:40 PM)
No doubt the risk is higher to buy now.
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Penang or Klang Valley property better

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post Mar 17 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Mar 17 2013, 03:04 AM)
same feeling.. just Pangeae itself more than 500 units per block, 90% studio.. with 4 blocks of service apartment, thats close to 2000 units..
and we have Dpulse, Garden Plaza, The Place, Domain, Skypark, Hyve, Vita Soho.. etc etc

conventional bigger units Shaftbury, Arc (over thousand units), Serin Resicency, V residence, Mutiara Ville

Existing: thousands of Cyberia condos.. as i passed by Cyberia today after visiting Pangeae, a lot of sale/rent banners around cyberia

Other development competing for Cyberjaya population: 3 element, Zeva, Paragon3, O2?

Who is renting this studio? young working adults? young executives working in IT field in cyberjaya dont receive big pay cheques.. even with earning 5k permonth, renting for RM1500 permonth is already pretty tough for them... So if owners are aiming for senior exec, likely they are married with family and kids, they prefer bigger build up or landed..

Next owners might aim for expats, how many expats we have in Cyber? my expat colleagues (who work in Cyber) brought his family along and they rather stay in MK.. so you might aim for expats with tight budget..

Next is student market.. IMHO, mostly international students will have those kind of $$.. how many local students can afford? Being an MMU student before, I can say we are still depending on PTPTN and most of our parents are not rich... maybe LKW students from rich family (I dont know la).. And guess for Cyberjaya student population, majority are from which country, UK? Japan? Korea? US? or Germany? you know what sort of tenant you might be getting.. some might say I am "racist", but hey i have enough of them around..
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Can compile a list of highrise? For idea on how much population to achieve?

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post Mar 17 2013, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Mar 17 2013, 02:09 PM)
Can compile a list of highrise? For idea on how much population to achieve?
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MMU population - 8000 (can check website)
LKW population - 9500 (can check website)

MMU has internal hostel, 4 blocks with 3 wings each, 5 floor, also another 2 apartments IOTA and Epsilon, easily fit in 3000 students (I stayed there for whole 4 years, RM100 permonth only.. lolzz)
LKW hostel near SK (anyone mind to share how many it can fit in?)

Existing poperties
Cyberia easily fit in 5,000 population http://wikimapia.org/#lat=2.9219518&lon=10...66&z=16&l=0&m=b
1182 Condos, 372 townhouse
http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/cyberia_smarthomes

Cyberia Crescent http://www.iproperty.com.my/condominiums/1...yberia_Crescent
799 units of 900sqft to 2000sqft... conservatively accommodating 2,000 population

Domain Cyber http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/the_domain
272 units of studio and small apartments

D'Melor http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/d%27melor
120 units low density condo

Gardenview Residence - 210 units with 1400sqft to 2800sqft http://gardenview.com.my/index.asp

On going -
Mahsing Garden Plaza - 983 studios and service apartment http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/garden_plaza
D'pulse - 482 studios and suites http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/d%27pulze
Shaftsbury - 783 studios and SOHO http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/shaftsbury_square
Serin Villamas - 600 units of condos (965 to 3000sqft), easily take in 2,000 ppl http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/serin_residency
The Arc - over 1000 units of condos (900 to 2000sqft), easily take in 3,000 ppl http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/the_arc
Mutiara Ville - 10 blocks highdense.. easily take in 3,000 ppl http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...ominium_ForSale
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The Place - 190 studios (partitioned to 3 bedder) .. also duplex SOHO dont know how many http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/the_place
V' Residence - 268 units with 1,300sqft above http://www.vresidence.com.my/concept.html
Skypark - Service Apartment close to 300 units.. Studio and SOHO unknown
Pangeae - SOFO 200 units http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/paragon
Pangeae - Service apartment, my rough calculation 500 units perblock, 90% studio, all togther 4 blocks.. potentially total 2,000 units of studio + service apartment
The Hyve - 768 units of studio and small apartments
Vita Cyberjaya - 345 SOHO http://www.iproperty.com.my/news/5246/vita-lity-in-cyberjaya
Vega Residensi - 356 studios and small units by PKNS - http://www.pknsproperty.com/VegaResidensi1/index.html
Symphony Park - this one abit unknown... initial plan was 784 units http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/symphony_park

Other props which I dont think part of the competition
Mahsing Garden Residence
UEM Symphony Hills
Sps Eco Glades
Summer Glades
MyDiva Homes
OSK Mirage by the lake

Others which could be part of the competition
ZEVA
3 Elements
Paragon 3

fuh.. i m abit tired korek all this info... I am sure there are more projects but running out of brain juice..
you are welcome to add on further and calculate the potential supply as well

how many potential studio units do you think

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Mar 17 2013, 03:09 PM)
MMU population - 8000 (can check website)
LKW population - 9500 (can check website)

MMU has internal hostel, 4 blocks with 3 wings each, 5 floor, also another 2 apartments IOTA and Epsilon, easily fit in 3000 students (I stayed there for whole 4 years, RM100 permonth only.. lolzz)
LKW hostel near SK (anyone mind to share how many it can fit in?)

Existing poperties
Cyberia easily fit in 5,000 population http://wikimapia.org/#lat=2.9219518&lon=10...66&z=16&l=0&m=b
1182 Condos, 372 townhouse
http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/cyberia_smarthomes

Cyberia Crescent http://www.iproperty.com.my/condominiums/1...yberia_Crescent
799 units of 900sqft to 2000sqft... conservatively accommodating 2,000 population

Domain Cyber http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/the_domain
272 units of studio and small apartments

D'Melor http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/d%27melor
120 units low density condo

Gardenview Residence - 210 units with 1400sqft to 2800sqft http://gardenview.com.my/index.asp

On going -
Mahsing Garden Plaza - 983 studios and service apartment http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/garden_plaza
D'pulse - 482 studios and suites http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/d%27pulze
Shaftsbury - 783 studios and SOHO http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/shaftsbury_square
Serin Villamas - 600 units of condos (965 to 3000sqft), easily take in 2,000 ppl http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/serin_residency
The Arc - over 1000 units of condos (900 to 2000sqft), easily take in 3,000 ppl http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/the_arc
Mutiara Ville - 10 blocks highdense.. easily take in 3,000 ppl http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...ominium_ForSale
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The Place - 190 studios (partitioned to 3 bedder) .. also duplex SOHO dont know how many http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/the_place
V' Residence - 268 units with 1,300sqft above http://www.vresidence.com.my/concept.html
Skypark - Service Apartment close to 300 units.. Studio and SOHO unknown
Pangeae - SOFO 200 units http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/paragon
Pangeae - Service apartment, my rough calculation 500 units perblock, 90% studio, all togther 4 blocks.. potentially total 2,000 units of studio + service apartment
The Hyve - 768 units of studio and small apartments
Vita Cyberjaya - 345 SOHO http://www.iproperty.com.my/news/5246/vita-lity-in-cyberjaya
Vega Residensi - 356 studios and small units by PKNS - http://www.pknsproperty.com/VegaResidensi1/index.html
Symphony Park - this one abit unknown... initial plan was 784 units http://www.propwall.my/cyberjaya/symphony_park

Other props which I dont think part of the competition
Mahsing Garden Residence
UEM Symphony Hills
Sps Eco Glades
Summer Glades
MyDiva Homes
OSK Mirage by the lake

Others which could be part of the competition
ZEVA
3 Elements
Paragon 3

fuh.. i m abit tired korek all this info... I am sure there are more projects but running out of brain juice..
you are welcome to add on further and calculate the potential supply as well

how many potential studio units do you think

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TQVM!!! I have compiled & posted one list before.

I will survey on your listing, will add into my compile list.

The most important key for Cyberjaya? Population, Population, Population... LOCAL Population...


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QUOTE(xyyap @ Mar 17 2013, 03:53 PM)
TQVM!!! I have compiled & posted one list before.

I will survey on your listing, will add into my compile list.

The most important key for Cyberjaya? Population, Population, Population... LOCAL Population...
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I like your thoughts.. we are still very much domestic demand driven..
Props in Cyber seems aiming rich foreign students and expats, expecting RM1.4k or RM1.5k rental for studios and SOHOs.. although there are rich locals, but majority of workforce in Cyber are working class working as IT exec..

MNC invested their IT hub in msia because we are so-called "cost effective" which means most dont get super high pay .. why MNC downsizing other countries and invest more in Msia? because our workforces are chxxp ..

IMHO, many working class still prefer other suburbs like SK, Puchong because the standard of living particularly food is much cheaper.. Cyberjaya food is very expensive, one of the reason is to cover the high rental especially those newly completed shoplots.. For working class who are busy working around the clock, there isnt time to do home cooking and most of the time just eat out..

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QUOTE(leejheng @ Mar 15 2013, 12:06 AM)
I'm a something like broker, I help few of my friend from china manage their fund.  If you know some high-end property agent, you can ask them about a group of Chinese player in market, I work as their fund manager like that. Oso help many western Embassy in property matter.  Just lucky when in Uni time, I know all this rich guy.
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Mar 17 2013, 04:10 PM)
I like your thoughts.. we are still very much domestic demand driven..
Props in Cyber seems aiming rich foreign students and expats, expecting RM1.4k or RM1.5k rental for studios and SOHOs.. although there are rich locals, but majority of workforce in Cyber are working class working as IT exec..

MNC invested their IT hub in msia because we are so-called "cost effective" which means most dont get super high pay .. why MNC downsizing other countries and invest more in Msia? because our workforces are chxxp ..

IMHO, many working class still prefer other suburbs like SK, Puchong because the standard of living particularly food is much cheaper.. Cyberjaya food is very expensive, one of the reason is to over the high rental especially those newly completed shoplots.. For working class who are busy working around the clock, there isnt time to do home cooking and most of the time just eat out..
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Quite depends.

I know many couple earning average about RM 20k, yet they still renting a house. Not because they cannot afford, but because they do not believe the price increase.

If it is just couple, simple eat out make sense. Once u have kids, different story. We experienced this. Staying near to the working place or fluent highway traffic, definitely save u a lot of good family time.

U from IT too? & Yes nowadays people with > 10 years experience, many drawing > RM 10k per month. When convert this into S$ 4k or US$ 3.3k, it is still cheap to MNC.

I wish to see more local family moving to Cyberjaya. Welcome to live @ Cyberjaya!


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