interesting. how much LS can a dh gear up to? 3%? unless dual wield then goes up to 6%? too bad we can't have a life steal belt..

i wonder if one day we can drop gloom / preparation as well, seems like this 2 is a must skill for all my build (uber, farming, everything)

Here's the path I hope to take to get me to higher practical dps when playing melee dh:

1) Replace bola shot thunder ball rune with volatile explosives for bigger AOE, bigger life steal. However, volatile explosives has a lower proc coeff, so I need to compensate by burning less disc (i.e. gloom less frequently).
2) Replace witching hour with inna's belt for resists and cc reduction. Dps should roughly be the same, hitting harder but slower.
3) Replace numbing traps with cull the weak for extra dps.

nice.. but curious how much you had to splurge?

Let's not go there again man...

Why melee DH? I think most melee DH uses grenades for the higher procs. I think your idea is interesting. Never occured to me to play in such manner. Let us know how much AR and LS needed to burn less disc. I think all DH wold love the idea of having to use less disc.

How does cull of the weak going to give you more DPS?

p.s: How much does a LS manticore cost? Worth the upgrade?

Eh tumpang tanya ahhh

This quiver any worth? I not sure Bola Shot how good right now.




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love the bola shot dmg... but any quiver that isn't a dead man's legacy is pretty much worthless now

Yeap, sad but true.
DML is getting cheaper and cheaper too.
I got mine for 12m, with 20% IAS and 13% Bola damage bonus.

wow nice price.. what's the dex and vit roll?

Hi Guys,

I've never used LOH on a DH so i would like to know how LOH works in inferno level. Say if you have 300 LOH, do you get 300 LOH each time you hit or is there a coeff like LS?

Thanks.

loh got coefficient...

ls no coefficient

ls is now a must for us DHs lol...

hi guys, which 1 you think better?
one got AR, another 0ne got higher dex

depends on ur build lo , if ur ar is already high enough then choose the high dex glove for more dps

for me i will choose one with higher dex. but phillip is right, choose the one that suit your build most

radiant emerald 20mill

so many discussion about bola shot..ah heck im still using hungering arrow + spray of teeth

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/denon91...0/hero/23127477

Thinking of upgrade my shoulder, vile ward!
May i know the pickup radius important or not?

ic, guess i will goto higher dex for the dps, mayb use as temporary wait for better drop

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Added on November 17, 2012, 2:50 amvery important!

This post has been edited by well: Nov 17 2012, 02:51 AM

I started playing my barb again to give WWT build a try. It made me realized why this build is so popular and successful. Reasons being:
- Crazy dps from dual wield (max 400%CHD from 2 weapons)
- High Lifesteal% (max 6% from weapons, 3% from belt & 3% from passive Bloodthirst.
- Fast attack speed (whirlwind) which grants faster health regen from LS
- Good mobility via Sprint
- Skill set synergy that grants resource,damage,mitigation

Can a DH achieve all this i asked myself. Solo play at higher mp has always been a problem with monster having enormous health (worse when faced with RD elites). To answer my earlier question i did some quick search on US GAH to look for some viable options to somewhat replicate the features of a WWT barb.

As we all know a dual socket manti with LS is not within the reach of average players. I saw one with 1086 dps 2.5% LS 2 OS @ 0.5b BIN. Even with this we are still capped at 3% LS max which i think is not sufficient to counter RD. An alternative is to go DW. In theory by going DW a DH can achieve 6% LS max & 400% CHD (equipping 2 rare hxbows that has 100% CHD & OS). After doing some browsing on US GAH, a reasonable setup with a budget of below 10m (not including high tier emeralds) will give u 2 x 9xx dps hxbows that grants 100-150% CHD with OS (not including the xtra CHD% from gems) and 5-6% LS.

My own DH is now at 120+k dps (Calamity + DML) and waiting for a bid on a 9xx dps rare hxbow with 75% CHD, OS, 2.3% LS (also hv +9 max disc). The 6 affix on rares provide a variety of possibilities to complement your build (can go for high dex, vita @ hatred regen, max disc etc). Once i get my hand on the rare hxbow i will do some testing to see how much increase in dps i will get, is the increase in %LS & %CHD (my Calamity has 2.4% LS & 92% CHD) will make up for the loss in dex,vita & CC from my DML I plan to try out Sentry/GT in conjuction with Gloom to get that 50% dmg reduction and see if i can survive while leeching from LS.

Any feedbacks, constructive criticisms & opinions are most welcomed

Very good explanation.

I don't want to sound arrogant tho at times i do. But please hear me out first.

1. Barb gears are dirt cheap. The IK belt that has double roll on STR went for like 4mil here on EU. C'mon a belt that gives you AR, LS, Fury goes for 4 mil? Imagine a DH belt that gives you disc, AR and LS, how much is it going to go? A skorn with LS is how much? A manticore with LS is how much? (note: the LS of the manticore is half the LS on the skorn)

2. The passives of barb are just plain OP. 5CC and 50 CHD plus 10CC if u use mace or was it axe. How is that not designed for noobs.

3. So a barb gets to do MP10 by running around (effectively kiting and hitting at the same time) and range classes have a harder time?

4. We all know DEX gears are insanely expensive and barb gears are dirt cheap. Heck, i dare say any random 2 piece on my DH can buy an entire barb set (not the high end ones but the ones that lets u do MP10 slowly but surely).

5. There's no glory in rolling a barb and finishing MP10 on it cuz u know u didn't do it cuz of the effort u put in. You simply jump on the Jay Wilson bandwagon.

6. The AS on a barb. Let's not even go to WOTB which IMO is BROKEN. I saw a barb yesterday hitting at 2.14 APS. Sure he might geared heavily on AS and maybe low on CD or smth else. Can we DH do that? geared heavily on one side and let others slide? Nah, you'll get raped. And his gears was cheap.

So, don't roll a barb and no shame we can't pull multiple mobs on MP10 and run around them smacking them. The barb class is broken as it is.