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 Demon Hunter V2, Patch 1.05 - More survivabilities!

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d3dragonslayer
post Oct 22 2012, 11:38 AM

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dh reporting in~

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DragonS...8/hero/17509074

currently using different gear/build for farming keys and uber

farming key
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;eYZ!caccYZ

3 offensive aoe build:
bola shot - hatred generator
ball lightning - hatred spender
rain of vengence - avg cast every minute, depending on the mob density, or when elite exist

tactical advantage for finding keywarden in huge map (FoM/daghlur oasis)

usually farm at mp5.. with friend mp6.. depending on friend's gear


uber
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;eYX!ZaccYc

perhaps can switch ball lightning to spike trap or something else, haven't fully utilize this slot yet..
NS passive also doesn't gain much as compared when i use while farming, thinking to change to other defensive passive? (Perfectionist maybe?)

highest uber i can do is up to mp7.. tried mp8 yesterday with goat(biatche) with horrible experience.. didn't know mp7 and mp8 so big diff..

This post has been edited by d3dragonslayer: Oct 22 2012, 12:01 PM
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post Oct 22 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 22 2012, 11:45 AM)
This is indeed a balance & powerful build.
I wonder how he coped with damage reflection?
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he has pretty much defensive build.. Perfectionist, Numbing Traps, Guardian Turret, gloom most of the time.. and with such high resist, damage reflect shouldn't be much a problem i suppose

btw i wonder if he change passive to steady aim/archery (both or either one), imagine how much dps he can increase..
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post Oct 22 2012, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Oct 22 2012, 12:37 PM)
During the siegebreaker fight, the barb yelled "I'm stuck".  Wondering what happened, I walked towards him for a closer look. He was in siegebreaker's grip, and my stun bolas kept resetting the animation so siegebreaker couldn't let him down laugh.gif
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lol i have that experience too! that barb said 'I'm so bored' LOL


Added on October 22, 2012, 1:43 pm
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 22 2012, 12:23 PM)
In patch 105 at high MP, even melee heroes are killed if they do not have sufficient life recovery (LOH/LS).
Higher DPS, higher reflection of damage.
High AR and armor are not enough to cope with the high reflection of damage.
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agree. high ar and armor are not enough with such high dps. i often die when critical hit procs on reflect damage elites ~.~

then he has that numbing traps + guardian turret, which reduce 35% of damage taken, that is quite alot damage reduced there..

otherwise, just die and revive and kill lo lol

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post Oct 23 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Oct 23 2012, 11:00 AM)
bros wanna ask...is the new nat set worth it? what stats should i look for in a nat set?...currently plan to angkat shoe and helm
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the 2 set bonus 7% crit chance is the pretty worth it.

helm might need crit chance as well, but there are huge price range between helm with and without crit.

look for max discipline in cloak. vit/all resist is considered best affix that can roll, but they will boost the price too

shoe itself is pretty decent, definitely worth getting one.

ring with crit roll are expensive, thus can consider getting one with average damage increase

4 legacy nat set is very good, but they are waaaaaaaaay expensive, if i could afford that much gold i rather buy godly rare item..

if you can afford 2 nat set i think you can consider getting shoe and cloak first, only then helm/ring.
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post Oct 24 2012, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(moomanhang @ Oct 24 2012, 01:39 PM)
1.05 still can solo the 2nd key warden is hard sad.gif
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i like act 2 key warden, just spam lightning ball in his missle dampening area and he will melt..
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post Oct 24 2012, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Oct 24 2012, 03:05 PM)
act 2 keywarden just shoot hujgering arrow or bola from far... he will just stand there....
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hungering arrow can hit him before it 'dissapear'?
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post Oct 25 2012, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Oct 25 2012, 04:54 PM)
Yup
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jealous those who has legacy nats.... many disc spender and dont need preparation somemore...

how long does it take for you to farm the key one round?

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post Oct 26 2012, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(philip42 @ Oct 26 2012, 07:39 PM)
what stats should i get if i wanna get new nats set? maybe 2 piece 1st for the bonus
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cheapest would be boots and cloak..

cheapest boots selling 7mil right now
cloak get one with max discipline, that would costs 2mil only
or, cloak with max discipline+vit, selling 10mil cheapest

sigh.. used to buy my cloak at 27mil... now <2mil... depreciate so fast.. @.@
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post Oct 27 2012, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 27 2012, 12:53 PM)
Any bola shot users out there?
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using bola too.. with imminent doom for farming and stun for uber~
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post Oct 28 2012, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Oct 28 2012, 01:11 AM)
natal boot > nike shoe  wub.gif
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congrats! what's the stat of that boots?
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post Oct 30 2012, 11:48 AM

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700 dex (nearly 800) is pretty huge difference..
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post Oct 31 2012, 11:13 AM

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this is getting more interesting.. guys check this out

DH doing MP10 azmo in 44.3 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smCf_d5JiPs&

not only he has high dps, but also able to survive that dark pool as a dh..

and now azmo has become a benchmark for dps..
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post Oct 31 2012, 11:50 AM

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agree.. perhaps he's saving some for survivability? look forward for more record breaking video hohoho
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post Oct 31 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Oct 31 2012, 02:12 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Booty-6947/hero/4745893

some update to my budget DH  blush.gif
i think my DPS still kinda low. next aim change glove. any advise from the sifus? tqtq

the 28k health globe/potion bonus is a life saver  tongue.gif
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that's... a budget dh??! how much does that costs you total??

you seems to have pretty high EHP... and with that health globe bonus, you can never die, right?
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:55 AM

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wow, good stuff!!
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post Nov 4 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Nov 3 2012, 05:19 PM)
My opinion after playing more uber games:

Vault is really useful for yourself and your teammates. Faster repositioning away from lashers and blobs, repositioning to rez, and just getting out of trouble in general.

Caltrops is really sexy for the 10% cc boost. So much free dps. It is also useful for the skeletons/brutes in maghda/sk - lay caltrops and overlay with spike traps, to maximize trap damage.

M4D mortal enemy is essential to spam hatred generators faster. Just hope that you aren't in a game with another M4D user or you'll have M4D wars laugh.gif

I value thunder bola's stun more than imminent doom. Even if another teammate is speccing for crowd control, I still use it because circumstances can force the teammate to stop shooting, and with that the stunlock stops.
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good suggestion on caltrops.. will try that on my next uber.

M4D i'll prefer death toll rune as it will benefit all party members (especially tankers)

agree on bola's stun too. it stun the boss most of the time

btw this is my skill build against uber http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;Yef!ZaccYc

i need perfectionist/guardian turret as defensive skill against higher damage @ MP9.. if i can get higher ehp probably i can drop these for more offensive skill (considering caltrops as mentioned)

spiked trap with echoing blast rune is so far i found the highest damage output skill against bosses, since i can stun them (or if there's a cm wiz, lagi best) and makes them dont move much.. any other options than this i missed out?

how abt others? what's ur build for ubers?

QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 01:17 AM)

Added on November 4, 2012, 1:39 amoh btw, for paragon leveling i think NS + Bat + Ball lightning is the most efficient way to farm MP1 or 2.
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yeah ball lightning is most favorable build for farming, but sometimes i dislike them for running so slow.. we dh can even run faster than that ball lol

also btw if i'm not mistaken, the ball lightning only deal half of the damage on each shock right? which is 155/2 % damage is it?

this is my build for farming http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;ebZ!bbccYZ

vengence and bat is pretty good for spamming multishot, spamming multishot is good for spamming vault toc, which also leads to fast movement most of the time too

if i'm not mistaken on the ball lightning damage, i would prefer multishot as it provides higher damage on each shot


Added on November 4, 2012, 1:52 pm
QUOTE(leo0089 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:50 AM)
few days back i was suggested to change my v.ward to a better one, so i bought one with 235 cause limited budget, and then i found this,
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should i sell and buy other things to upgrade my other parts? or jz continue use?  hmm.gif
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omg dat ward... shocking.gif

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post Nov 4 2012, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:06 PM)
What's ur EHP? I have approximately 280 to 300k EHP (not sure, site not updated yet) and i do fine if i'm careful. SS should do the trick. But if u wish to sit and shoot, then yeah u need more EHP.
around 300k EHP based on diabloprogress. most of the time is fine other than kulle's fire ball. if wasn't able to dodge successfully and not glooming it might one hit kill me.

drop SS for after 104. it use pretty much disc isn't it? most of the time disc was spent on gloom

QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:06 PM)
Why is everyone raving about echoing blast? i find it slow, unreliable and worst u dont get to fully unload your hatred.
why not? you can put 3 trap each time.. each explodes 3 times so that gives 275 x 3 x 3 = 2475% dmg in seconds.. usually slow skill produce highest damage output isn't it? just like cluster bombs / imminent doom etc.

didn't fully unload ur hatred means you can spam even more right?

btw how many 'bombs' are there per shot in cluster bombs?

QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:06 PM)
I've tested multishot with suppression fire and BL and i must tell u BL is much much better. i have also ran with vengeance and BAT but BL still beats MS. The reasons are:

1. with NS rune, u crit way more often with BL.
2. BL has no blind spots but MS has a blind spot where if the enemy is too close, u're not gonna hit them.
3. The AOE dmg of BL is much much better than NS. Try spamming say 3BL and compare it to a MS shot.
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okay you have pretty much point there. trade speed kill with aoe. how about its damage? will consider trying BL/NS back.
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:51 PM)
How much disc u have? i have 47 on standard fights and 57 with SoJ against ubers. So with NS rune, i can mix SS and Gloom.
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45. am looking into SoJ too cause of the max disc and dmg bonus. but that's not in my priority purchase list.

QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:51 PM)
Kulle's movement is just too much hassle for the aiming but if u have CM wiz then it'll be a different story. and LOL i didn't know u could drop 3 at once. I thought u could only drop 3 at once with scatter. Are u using custom engineering to drop 3?
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nope we can drop traps max up to 3. i think you're referring to sentry. with bola stun we can stun the boss most of the time. definitely can't compared to CM wiz but still pretty useful otherwise can't use traps at all.

QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:51 PM)
Means i want to unload all my hatred within the shortest time possible. This is why i'm fond of CA and Impale but impale seem to suck lately.
If i'm not mistaken should be 4 bombs. The smaller ones are hard to spot. I'm not sure here. need more data. Damage of BL on MP1 is fine man. I have 1.98 AS so BL goes fast.
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tried BL/NS yesterday and compared to Multishot. the difference is that NS has very slow disc regen, but can spam BL everywhere which produce a lot dmg as compared to Multishot. BL/NS i can't run fast most of the time, and Multishot need ToC to produce damage as well. after all the time spent on both build is pretty much the same. (based on record with >5 times doing Multishot build, and 3 times BL/NS)
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 5 2012, 10:57 AM)
and about control, yeah maybe. move shoot move shoot. I don't think we are losing DPS compared to those barbs that don't kite. Is like fast clicking if u get me. try to reduce the time between moving and shooting.
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with that I do feel that dh (non tank dh) has the highest apm among every classes.. sometimes i feel my finger pain after few round ubers..
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 5 2012, 11:06 AM)
Yes. I'm thinking to do that la but don't take my word for it. I'm normally very wrong when it comes to AR and VIT. At least i'm getting the VIT part correct now. So got improvement  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

@D3dragonslayer

nice signet there. I'm thinking of getting one too. 2xHellfire rings + ruby + signet. nice leveling !
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haha thanks.. without that i could've been in lvl50.. it's pretty worth an investment in the long run.. also the price should be dropping alot after 105? didn't research though

as for AR i think we still need a bit for EHP. i have 40k life and with little AR increase i will have similar ehp as compared to 60k life no AR. need to find a balance between life/AR/armor. though i have no idea about that sweet spot maybe tanky dh or other meelee players can give us some suggestion

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