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 [Official] Rig Suggestion Thread V1, Hardware Q&A RRG™

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tesh94
post Sep 21 2012, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(Msactually @ Sep 21 2012, 01:04 AM)
Is the integrated gpu good enough though? If it isnt, is there a cheaper but quite good gpu? Dont need a powerful one, my friend doesnt play games which require those.
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I'd say yes. Intel HD graphics in the latest ivy bridge processor performs quite well. You can even play games like Diablo III with FPS around 25-30. Even though it's low. Still playable biggrin.gif
If no intention of playing games onboard graphics from the I7 will do . If honestly want to cut cost then can get Xeon which is around RM699 I think hmm.gif , not to sure about the pricing sweat.gif and get a cheapo gpu like the Radeon 6450 RM109
Total RM808.

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post Sep 21 2012, 02:09 AM

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hello sifus..
my friend asks about desktop system
including monitor...
budget >> RM2000

usage: light gaming (maybe angry birds) & some adobe photoshop
can anyone help me suggesting bang per bucks hardware?
thank u very much.. smile.gif
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post Sep 21 2012, 03:48 AM

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QUOTE(taf89 @ Sep 21 2012, 02:09 AM)
hello sifus..
my friend asks about desktop system
including monitor...
budget >> RM2000

usage: light gaming (maybe angry birds) & some adobe photoshop
can anyone help me suggesting bang per bucks hardware?
thank u very much.. smile.gif
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Intel Core i3 3220 3.3GHz RM378
MSI H61M-P31 mainboard RM149
Corsair 1333 ram 4GB RM59
Sapphire HD7770 VaporX RM469
FSP Hexa 500W PSU RM149
WD Blue 500GB HDD RM179
CM Elite 343 Black Edition RM109
Lite-On 22x DVDRW RM59
LG IPS224T 21.5" monitor RM439

Total - RM1990.00 viewnet n PC Zone.
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post Sep 21 2012, 12:02 PM

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guys, how do i determine whether a mobo support ivy bridge or not? i only know how to check for the processor socket (sorry for the noobness)
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post Sep 21 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Sep 21 2012, 12:02 PM)
guys, how do i determine whether a mobo support ivy bridge or not? i only know how to check for the processor socket (sorry for the noobness)
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iinm if u know which model, then can check from mobo manufactured website.. smile.gif
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post Sep 21 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Sep 21 2012, 12:02 PM)
guys, how do i determine whether a mobo support ivy bridge or not? i only know how to check for the processor socket (sorry for the noobness)
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IVY BRIDGE MOTHERBOARDS

- H71,B75,H77,Z77

It's simple..and for sandy bridge motherboards,u just have to make sure/ask the seller whether it has the latest revision.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Sep 21 2012, 12:14 PM)
iinm if u know which model, then can check from mobo manufactured website.. smile.gif
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oh. check at the cpu compatibility part. thanks smile.gif
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post Sep 21 2012, 01:39 PM

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Hi Sifu,
Why the AMD processor which have more core and cache size, but the processor benchmark still below par of Intel processor which have less core and cache?

What is the technical reason behind?

for instance : fx8120 is slower than I7-2600
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AM...8120+Eight-Core

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post Sep 21 2012, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(alvincks @ Sep 21 2012, 01:39 PM)
Hi Sifu,
Why the AMD processor which have more core and cache size, but the processor benchmark still below par of Intel processor which have less core and cache?

What is the technical reason behind?

for instance : fx8120 is slower than I7-2600
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AM...8120+Eight-Core
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You can't simply compared them because they have completely different architectures.
Read more about AMD Bulldozer here:-
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5057/the-bul...g-even-deeper/9
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/10058...ead-performance
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Sep 21 2012, 07:29 PM)
You can't simply compared them because they have completely different architectures.
Read more about AMD Bulldozer here:-
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5057/the-bul...g-even-deeper/9
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/10058...ead-performance
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+1 on this.It's all about architecture..u shouldn't judge something with their rough spec IMO..i7 has a faster clock cycle that instantly could pawn FX-8150 easily..

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The key difference here is how much work each CPU can get done per clock cycle. Intel's Sandy Bridge CPUs are much more efficient at that than any of AMD's processors, which are more competitive with the old Core 2 series as far as instructions completed per clock cycle goes. The result is when running at the same clockspeed, the Intel CPU will be about 20% faster than its AMD counterpart.

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post Sep 21 2012, 09:32 PM

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wanting to do my gaming rig.. told my dad about it, and suddenly he said that he has his own custom gaming rig back in the days and it is at his office.. he just brought it back home. I didnt open it up yet, since it was never used since the 90s (or 2000) but it was left for quite a long time. He said he spend thousands on it, and most expensive was on the motherboard itself. he say in that time that motherboard was the best and big and very expensive (thats what he told me la) i will open it later and myb post photos too.. but i wanna ask whether a long not used pc and trying to revive it back by just adding a newer PSU, newer CPU and a graphic card and a bigger HDD is it possible?? even tho its an old motherboard?? and is it possible for the mobo to be damaged too for long time never use or still can revive one?

Also is there such casing for PC called CARII Multimedia Computer System??
This casing is possibly the futuristic-ish (alienware-ish) kind of design back in the days.. and it also has a floppy disk slot LOL o.o
So yeah thanks for helping biggrin.gif
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post Sep 21 2012, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 21 2012, 09:32 PM)
wanting to do my gaming rig.. told my dad about it, and suddenly he said that he has his own custom gaming rig back in the days and it is at his office.. he just brought it back home. I didnt open it up yet, since it was never used since the 90s (or 2000) but it was left for quite a long time. He said he spend thousands on it, and most expensive was on the motherboard itself. he say in that time that motherboard was the best and big and very expensive (thats what he told me la) i will open it later and myb post photos too.. but i wanna ask whether a long not used pc and trying to revive it back by just adding a newer PSU, newer CPU and a graphic card and a bigger HDD is it possible?? even tho its an old motherboard?? and is it possible for the mobo to be damaged too for long time never use or still can revive one?

Also is there such casing for PC called CARII Multimedia Computer System??
This casing is possibly the futuristic-ish (alienware-ish) kind of design back in the days.. and it also has a floppy disk slot LOL o.o
So yeah thanks for helping biggrin.gif
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you'll need to post the specs 1st. And also if it's a 1990s pc . I don't think can upgrade much on it sweat.gif

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post Sep 21 2012, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(tesh94 @ Sep 21 2012, 09:40 PM)
you'll need to post the specs 1st. And also if it's a 1990s pc . I don't think can upgrade much on it  sweat.gif
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Im not sure I know much about the specs.. I will open the casing later.. and try to read what brand is the mobo all. As Im still new to PC, I dont think I'll know much and even know where to read the brand and model of the mobo and stuff. LOL. But I'll try snap photo of it.


Added on September 21, 2012, 10:55 pmhelp I've reach the mobo, and now I dont know how to open the fan that sits on top the CPU. All I know is that it is Intel manufactured (the fan says intel lol) how to open the fan on top the cpu?? and where should i find model n brand of the mobo all i see is some weird lines and all trolol yawn.gif


Added on September 21, 2012, 11:22 pmanother new i learned.. this motherboard has nothing written on it.. but there are some chips around.. on the chips are written 'ITE' googled it but it says mainboard not motherboard?? and some also write game chips.. whats this trololol

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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 21 2012, 09:54 PM)
Im not sure I know much about the specs.. I will open the casing later.. and try to read what brand is the mobo all. As Im still new to PC, I dont think I'll know much and even know where to read the brand and model of the mobo and stuff. LOL. But I'll try snap photo of it.


Added on September 21, 2012, 10:55 pmhelp I've reach the mobo, and now I dont know how to open the fan that sits on top the CPU. All I know is that it is Intel manufactured (the fan says intel lol) how to open the fan on top the cpu?? and where should i find model n brand of the mobo all i see is some weird lines and all trolol yawn.gif
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a picture would be better than thousand words
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post Sep 21 2012, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(zerohunter @ Sep 21 2012, 11:22 PM)
a picture would be better than thousand words
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LOL sorry tongue.gif okay finally I've disassembled all wires and units including power supply.. just left the motherboard, some ethernet cable card and display card connected to the motherboard, and the motherboard is still connected to the casing. but its already naked to the core most of it. Tried to checked the CPU but the words on it kinda lost?? Idk how to explain like theres no more words on it, except the fan on top of the CPU is intel, and on the power supply theres a sticker intel pentium 4 so maybe thats the cpu but none the less heres the photo. Now gimme tips on how to check the motherboard brand and model lol icon_question.gif


Added on September 21, 2012, 11:49 pmis there any possible way to upload photo here sleep.gif I'll tweet it, I'll give a link to the tweeted photo, thanks


Added on September 21, 2012, 11:51 pmhere it is http://tinyurl.com/9fe3uhd

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post Sep 21 2012, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 21 2012, 11:45 PM)
LOL sorry tongue.gif okay finally I've disassembled all wires and units including power supply.. just left the motherboard, some ethernet cable card and display card connected to the motherboard, and the motherboard is still connected to the casing. but its already naked to the core most of it. Tried to checked the CPU but the words on it kinda lost?? Idk how to explain like theres no more words on it, except the fan on top of the CPU is intel, and on the power supply theres a sticker intel pentium 4 so maybe thats the cpu but none the less heres the photo. Now gimme tips on how to check the motherboard brand and model lol  icon_question.gif


Added on September 21, 2012, 11:49 pmis there any possible way to upload photo here sleep.gif I'll tweet it, I'll give a link to the tweeted photo, thanks


Added on September 21, 2012, 11:51 pmhere it is http://tinyurl.com/9fe3uhd
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I can see many bad capacitor in that mobo. Better buy new rig.
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post Sep 22 2012, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Hilmax @ Sep 21 2012, 11:59 PM)
I can see many bad capacitor in that mobo. Better buy new rig.
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the circle thing like a bullet thing right.. lol its kinda brownish >_> anyway is the MSI H61M-P31 good?? can you suggest me what to upgrade? including casing too, this casing has cacing's nest.. lol cacing running away just now when i unscrew .. budget 1k can ah? or more ? i dont mind more my dad can pay.. but i prefer 1k(my own money). monitor all no need just what to upgrade with this rig. My friend said get a new mobo, new rams and cpu. graphic card how?
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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 22 2012, 12:18 AM)
the circle thing like a bullet thing right.. lol its kinda brownish >_> anyway is the MSI H61M-P31 good?? can you suggest me what to upgrade? including casing too, this casing has cacing's nest.. lol cacing running away just now when i unscrew .. budget 1k can ah? or more ? i dont mind more my dad can pay.. but i prefer 1k(my own money). monitor all no need just what to upgrade with this rig. My friend said get a new mobo, new rams and cpu. graphic card how?
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Purpose of the rig ? Playing gameS? If yes what kind of games and what's your monitor reso .
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QUOTE(tesh94 @ Sep 22 2012, 12:25 AM)
Purpose of the rig ? Playing gameS? If yes what kind of games and what's your monitor reso .
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Yes playing games. Games like, Sims 3, Civilization(at high graphics if possible?)?? Something like that. Monitor i dont have any yet trolol suggestion for cheap and good one? Or can I just connect to a 32 inch HD tv?

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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 22 2012, 12:30 AM)
Yes playing games. Games like, Sims 3, Civilization(at high graphics if possible?)?? Something like that. Monitor i dont have any yet trolol suggestion for cheap and good one? Or can I just connect to a 32 inch HD tv?
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You're budget is pretty limited. Don't think you can reuse any of the parts. Better just sell them off.
I3 2100 RM339
WD caviar blue 500GB RM194
Msi H61 board RM149
4GB x 1 DDR3 Ram RM60
DVD-rw (if got from previous reuse it )
Sapphire 7750 1GB RM340
Fsp hexa 500w RM149 (What's the current psu you have with you ?)
Gigabyte GZ chassis RM59
Total RM1290
Assuming you sell off the previous parts you should be able to get all this . I'm not pretty sure about playing in high settings though sweat.gif



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