I'm sure Suarez will score more goals this season. Don't forget he was banned for 8 matches last season or else he would have scored more goals. I'm confident he'll knock in more than 20.

Suarez pressured heavily to perform, I think and hope that he will.

Watching all the games today makes me feel we are just unlucky. We play far better than the other teams, it is just our problem not to score goals and to concede an easy one. On the bright side, we are playing great football, nice to watch, hopefully luck will start to be on our side.

I'm just trying to look at it from a positive viewpoint. I'm a fan of Carroll's and really wanted to see him do well at the club. I also thought that Dempsey would be a safe and useful acquisition but que sera sera. Like I said earlier, I'd like to see the midfielders chip in when it comes to scoring.

I also wish Carroll would be a great player in Liverpool. This is good for both sides; Liverpool familiarising with BR's style and Carroll getting more playing in the field.

Big guy had a good report from last night's match. Wishing him for a great recovery.

But I don't have a single clue how Carroll can be accustomed in BR's play. Or vice versa.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...rpool-life.html

Gerrard's interview... he praised Allen!

Tonight it is do or die!
Please, please no more defensive blunders!
Being in 17th spot is not a good start to a Premier League season!

Haizz kinda upset that Carroll were loan out...
Oh and Carroll had a very good performance at West Ham yesterday.

For me personally, I wasn't so disappointed about losing out on Dempsey, but more to the failure of the board to back Rodgers. You sack King Kenny, and put him in charge, then you refuse to give him an extra few millions to get a player in. The board and Ian Ayre had acted very unprofessionally imo, first they announce Dempsey has signed on FSG's own website, then after that still don't want to come out money to buy. I'm sure if they did come out a couple million extra, shirt sales in the USA would have recover back the extra few millions. Rodgers himself was quoted to say that he would be crazy to let Carroll go, then he let Carroll go expecting a signing that didn't came. I'm pretty sure Rodgers would be disappointed as well. Our upper management stinks of unprofessional-ism and incompetence at the moment. Heard some rumours that Ayre may be replaced, if true I say good riddance, heads should roll for making us a laughing stock after the deadline day debacle.

Carroll did well yesterday, wasn't too surprise, Allardyce team is famous for long balls and it will really suit Carroll. Hope he will have a wonderful season and then we can sell him at a higher price.

Our first team though is still quite strong, so I hope we can get a good result against Arsenal. Sahin will make his first start I'm sure. Let's hope we win today and Suarez stays injury free for the next 6 months at least.

I think we need to analyse carefully about the d-day failure. This failure may indeed benefit us in January. I recall that BR said clubs quote a higher price when they know we are interested. Clubs are treating us like gold mine after seeing how easy we pay for Caroll and gang.

Now they know we are able to walk away and won't be held to ransom. We may sign a player that is 5 times better than Dempsey in January without overpaying.

I think they refuse to let Fulham bully us with their asking price just like how we walk away when Sigurdsson's agent wanted more money.

Can't wait for today match. DAgger should come back today.

Carroll is most effective when teams play direct football, something Allardyce's West Ham does. They were just pumping the ball into him and within the first 15 minutes, he was winning everything in the air. We play a more patient style of football where Carroll was expected to hold up the ball, push it back and move further up the park. I don't see Rodgers falling in love with him anytime soon.

This is discerning indeed. Thing is Ian Ayre has done a lot for the club financially and the decision not to fund Dempsey's transfer may not have been his. If not for him we may not have secured the Standard Chartered deal. There's more going on upstairs than we know I suspect. I mean all this walk of a new stadium and suddenly it's all gone silent again? Could be Rodger's wanted to be his own man and assumed he had the power to sign whoever he wanted whilst the top brass may have seen Dempsey as nothing but an ageing footballer with no resale value. Cybermetrics at work again? Whatever it is, it stinks.

I think for most people, it's not missing out on Dempsey that is most concerning. It's the fact that we haven't got a number 9 in the team. When have we not ever have a no 9 ? But Carroll only managed to score 4 goals last season, so one could argue we're not missing that much.

i thought players are more expensive in january transfer window?


anyway imo, why should we NOT spend a little bit extra if it helps our cause? i dont think there is any benefit in us doing that. in saving our face, we effectively lose out on a player that could be our problem solver. if its me, even though i dont like it, i'll pay for dempsey. extra 1-2m? its not extra 10-20m for God's sake. what goes around comes around. we dont need to be sooooo calculative with such small clubs. they want the 1m extra? let them have it. in the end they might get relegated who knows. now thats payback

This post has been edited by Petre: Sep 2 2012, 12:06 PM

It usually is. But we'll be saving tons of wages from loaning out players and the money, on top of the 4mil or so that we refused to spend on Dempsey, should be there if BR is desperate for a striker by then.

Yep, we might get a better player in January, who knows maybe walcott still won't sign a new deal. I wasn't too fuss with Dempsey, good player but not really special... Refusing to let other clubs bully us of course is a good stance, however, I do think that left us pretty short up front. I feel like something actually went wrong in the last few days of the transfer window, I doubt Rodgers would have let Andy Carroll go if he knew we wouldn't get another player in. I just think that under those circumstances, an extra 1 or 2 million isn't too much to fork out for a short term signing. Bellamy was pretty old when we sign him, but he was one of our best players last season imo. The only good thing that come off this I think is that we might be seeing more of the youngsters like Morgan and Yesil. Who knows, Yesil might turn out good. Morgan looks a bit nervous though in his first start against Hearts. Anyway, let's hope for the best.



Agree with this. Ian Ayre should be focusing only on marketing imo. Get somebody in who is a good negotiator, but let Rodgers have the final say on which players he wants. At the moment, there is nothing to do but to soldier on. Let's just wait and see. I'm not into baseball, but I've read somewhere that FSG did have some sort of a high wage clear out at Red Sox as well. It is like a change in policy for FSG. Red Sox is losing a lot lately though.

If only Clint Dempsey is a Brit. FSG would have put Melwood into a mortgage to get him.

by january, we would have played more than half the fixtures. a little too late by then if we are in trouble.

unless we can loan someone. loan can be made anytime outside the window correct?

That is what I am worried about as well, january might be too late if Suarez and Borini gets injured. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Premier League clubs can't loan players after transfer window closes. Only championsip clubs can I think.

FA cup and knock out stages of Euro league kicks off around January i think. Prior to that we only have the league, the league cup and group stages of Euro league. So there will be time to reinforce should we need to. Remember there will be players on the last terms of their contract who could be available at bargain prices. For instance, if Walcott doesn't renew his contract by then, he will only have 6 months left in his contract and his fee should a lot cheaper than now.

Not sure about loan dateline, but dateline for free agent players is a bit longer if im not mistaken.