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post Mar 11 2013, 11:02 PM

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post Mar 12 2013, 05:15 PM

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Can we know when a fund distribution is about to commence? I read from FSM magazine on why NAV's will drop when fund distribution are given out. Although the NAV will climb back, isn't it good that we sell before distribution date (or I think is called ex-date) and enter right after distribution? Besides, it's mentioned the fund will still receive distribution although you sell it before ex-date.
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post Mar 12 2013, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Malformed @ Mar 12 2013, 05:15 PM)
Can we know when a fund distribution is about to commence? I read from FSM magazine on why NAV's will drop when fund distribution are given out. Although the NAV will climb back, isn't it good that we sell before distribution date (or I think is called ex-date) and enter right after distribution? Besides, it's mentioned the fund will still receive distribution although you sell it before ex-date.
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Do you consider service charge of everytime buying back.
The gain % would be less than putting FD or even loss doh.gif



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SUSDavid83
post Mar 12 2013, 07:59 PM

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Not sure about PM but FSM usually has upfront notice for distribution announcement.
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post Mar 12 2013, 08:32 PM

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thinking of invest in PM, any suggestion?
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post Mar 12 2013, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(knightgogo @ Mar 12 2013, 08:32 PM)
thinking of invest in PM, any suggestion?
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One word: the service charge is high - 5.5%

Sorry PM agents! Not really want to start a fight!

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post Mar 12 2013, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:33 PM)
One word: the service charge is high - 5.5%

Sorry PM agents! Not really want to start a fight!
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Oi, u are the TS for this PM thread for god's sake! laugh.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 12 2013, 08:42 PM)
Oi, u are the TS for this PM thread for god's sake! laugh.gif
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But as a general consumer, he or she should be informed upfront of this before jumping into the ship.

On top of that, he or she should be informed upfront and aware of alternatives.
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post Mar 12 2013, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:44 PM)
But as a general consumer, he or she should be informed upfront of this before jumping into the ship.

On top of that, he or she should be informed upfront and aware of alternatives.
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post Mar 12 2013, 11:03 PM

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I wonder why i still didn't read more about FSM. Still stick to PM.
I know that it has a lower entry charge, and some fund that is well recognized (a good return one). Beside that, what is the advantages of FSM compare to PM? I know FSM has only little market capitalization (separate company).

Like, how FSM charge when doing switching?
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QUOTE(koinibler @ Mar 12 2013, 11:03 PM)
I wonder why i still didn't read more about FSM. Still stick to PM.
I know that it has a lower entry charge, and some fund that is well recognized (a good return one). Beside that, what is the advantages of FSM compare to PM? I know FSM has only little market capitalization (separate company).

Like, how FSM charge when doing switching?
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Aren't u supposed to be asking this at the FSM thread rather than here? sweat.gif

Anyway here goes...

Firstly, get this right:
- FSM is a UT distributor, whereas PM is both a distributor and Fund House.
- FSM is a Joint Venture between OSK Investment Bank Berhad and iFAST Corp Pte Ltd which is under Singapore Press Holdings
- FSM distributes funds from various Fund Houses like HwangIM, OSK-UOB, AmInvestment, Eastspring Investments and many more, whereas PM only distributes funds under itself.

As such, under FSM there are 2 types of switching:

(1) Intra switch
Whereby u switch from a fund to another fund that is managed by the SAME FUND HOUSE, e.g. from Hwang Select Opportunity Fund to Hwang Global Property Fund. Switching between equity funds are FREE, whereas switching from a bond fund (from 0% SC to 1.5% SC) to an equity fund (usually 2% SC) will entail charging of the difference of tier rate. You are given a "switching credit" when this happens, subsequently if u switch back from bond to equity, u can utilise your "credit" i.e. get free switching.

(2) Inter switch
Whereby u switch from a fund to another fund that is managed by a DIFFERENT FUND HOUSE. Such switches are treated as 2 separate transactions, 1 sale and 1 purchase, normal Sales Charges apply in this instance; there is no free inter switching.

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post Mar 13 2013, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 12 2013, 11:21 PM)
Aren't u supposed to be asking this at the FSM thread rather than here? sweat.gif

As such, under FSM there are 2 types of switching:

(1) Intra switch
Whereby u switch from a fund to another fund that is managed by the SAME FUND HOUSE, e.g. from Hwang Select Opportunity Fund to Hwang Global Property Fund. Switching between equity funds are FREE, whereas switching from a bond fund (from 0% SC to 1.5% SC) to an equity fund (usually 2% SC) will entail charging of the difference of tier rate. You are given a "switching credit" when this happens, subsequently if u switch back from bond to equity, u can utilise your "credit" i.e. get free switching.

(2) Inter switch
Whereby u switch from a fund to another fund that is managed by a DIFFERENT FUND HOUSE. Such switches are treated as 2 separate transactions, 1 sale and 1 purchase, normal Sales Charges apply in this instance; there is no free inter switching.
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blush.gif I might kena 'telan' by shark asking basic there.

Seem like 'intra switch' is advantages in FSM compare to PM hmm.gif and 'inter switch' only good when capital is low (<RM10K). I expect myself to do switching 3-4 times in 10 years.

Btw, seem like there is a new form for new investor for PM 'Suitability Assessment' starting this May 29. Kinda same like in PRS practise.
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post Mar 13 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Mar 12 2013, 06:29 PM)
Do you consider service charge of everytime buying back.
The gain % would be less than putting FD  or even loss  doh.gif
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Never accounted to that. Thanks. Meaning additional investment when it dropped will be the better option.
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QUOTE(Malformed @ Mar 13 2013, 10:20 AM)
Never accounted to that. Thanks. Meaning additional investment when it dropped will be the better option.
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2. The NAV price of the fund that I'm interested in is quite high now, should I stay away? Investment gurus always say "buy low, sell high"...
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3. Common misconceptions about unit trust dividends/distributions
(a) After dividend distribution, NAV price will go down, the fund will become cheaper.
(b) A fund that declares dividends is better than a fund that does not, dividends are my profit, they make me richer.

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post Mar 13 2013, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 12 2013, 08:47 PM)
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Can sifus or any UTC answer the following? notworthy.gif
1. Since FSM service charge is lower, why should we still buy from PM?
2. What are the key advantages buying from PM than FSM?

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post Mar 13 2013, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Sam8698 @ Mar 13 2013, 12:35 PM)
Can sifus or any UTC answer the following? notworthy.gif
1. Since FSM service charge is lower, why should we still buy from PM?
2. What are the key advantages buying from PM than FSM?
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Hello, sensitive question!
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post Mar 13 2013, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 13 2013, 12:41 PM)
Hello, sensitive question!
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I know but this is what the forum for, just for sharing and discussion.
May be you can just reply to my quetion #2 if first quetion is sensitive to you? smile.gif

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post Mar 13 2013, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(Sam8698 @ Mar 13 2013, 12:46 PM)
I know but this is what the forum for, just for sharing and discussion.
May be you can just reply to my quetion #2 if first quetion is sensitive to you? smile.gif
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Question 2:

1. PM is the biggest fund manager in Malaysia
2. There's supposingly to have service agent to facilitate you in term professional advices

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QUOTE(Sam8698 @ Mar 13 2013, 12:35 PM)
Can sifus or any UTC answer the following? notworthy.gif
1. Since FSM service charge is lower, why should we still buy from PM?
2. What are the key advantages buying from PM than FSM?
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1. Because u want to have the perceived security of doing business with a distributor backed by one of Malaysia's top bank? tongue.gif
2. U pay more Sales Charge to see a lenglui PM consultant brows.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 13 2013, 12:51 PM)
Question 2:

1. PM is the biggest fund manager in Malaysia
2. There's supposingly to have service agent to facilitate you in term professional advices
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2. The supposedly professional services made many burnt their money in PCSF blush.gif

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