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post Nov 7 2012, 01:49 PM

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Hi all, I am deciding to get a new car and have been driving my family's car for years now.

So when I started, only one brand came to my mind which is Honda. Either the new City or the new Civic. Coz I have been driving my sis City and it was a good car.  smile.gif

For the new City, I like the new look but the interior was so plain and simple. Not much features...

As for the new Civic, I still prefer the previous sporty look, the current one is such a pain in the eyes.

So I decided to see what alternatives there are in the market. My criteria for choosing a new car are
- FC: Good FC (I usually get 12-15 KM/L for the City)
- GPS: Comes with GPS
- Looks: Not a pain to the eyes  biggrin.gif
- Price Range: Less than RM 100K
- Maintenance and Service: Low maintenance cost and have service centers within the city.
- Speed: Good acceleration and decent speed.
- Safety: At least 2 airbags for the passenger and driver, ABS, Stability Control, Alarm system.

Well, this boils down to Forte, City, Vios and the new Nissan Almera.

On a nice beautiful Sunday morning, I decided to go test drive the Forte, City, Civic, Vios, Altis and the new Nissan Almera.
You might ask why I test drive the Civic and Altis, I wanted to see how it fairs against the Forte since they are in the same segment.

Nissan Almera
So I went to test the Almera first since it was nearer to my place. At first glance the Almera was just a stone throw away from being listed as a pain to the eyes on my list.
Either way I decided to give it a try since the highest spec was just only 79K.
The salesman let me drive it around the taman-taman only during the test drive and was over within 10 minutes...  sad.gif
Didn't get a chance to fully test the car since the low fuel indicator kept blinking as if it will drop to zero anytime.

The interior of the Almera looks cheap and the buttons and knobs feels like cheap plastics.
The driver seat feels a bit small for me and my leg keep hitting the armrest at the driver's side door.
But the pickup for the Almera was good probably due to its light weight.
So at RM 80K the Almera was a good deal at that time but the looks of the Almera was still a turn off for me with or without a body kit.
The Almera meet the GPS, price, maintenance and service, speed and safety criteria on my list. The FC should be okay as mentioned by PaulTan on his blog.

Kia Forte
The next stop I went to was the Kia showroom, when I reach there I was greeted by a not so friendly salesman who obviously woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
But still I have a look at the Forte and it was 2nd love at first sight since my first love was standing next beside me, she might get jealous.  tongue.gif

The forte looks sporty with the bodykit and there were lots of features offered by Kia for the forte. GPS, paddle shifter, reverse camera, keyless entry and etc.
I ask the salesman whether they had a 2.0SX for testing, unfortunately there was only the 1.6SX. Had to wait awhile while the salesman ask his partner to prepare the car.
After a couple of minutes the car was ready and me, my GF, together with the grumpy salesman got on the car.
It felt like I was in the cockpit of a Gundam when I got in, there were so many buttons and controls inside.
The salesman took his time to walkthrough on the features inside while I adjust the seat, mirrors and the sterling wheel.

Same as the Almera, the low fuel indicator was blinking. This time the salesman let me drive freely around the city and I was kinda worry the fuel will drop to zero anytime...  sad.gif
While I was driving he kept on explaining the features on the Forte. What I notice was there was a slight delay of 1-2 seconds after stepping on the accelerator and the car actually moving.
Well not a biggie as after it started moving, it was a smooth drive all the way.
The sterling wheel feels a bit heavy compared to the Honda City and its more harder to turn.

The forte was spacious enough for me and the armrest at the side of the driver's door was not blocking my leg.  smile.gif
Can't comment much on the car as I was driving within the city at the speed of 60-80 KM/h only but overall it felt good and comfortable.
The salesman quote me @ RM 84,800 for the 1.6SX and giving me the body kit, emblem and car mat.
The Forte manage to meet my GPS, looks, price, maintenance and service, speed and safety criteria on my list.
So compared with the Almera, Forte would be a better bargain.
Well time to say bye bye to the Forte as I move on to my next destination, Honda showroom.

Honda City and Civic
Honda was and still is my favorite brand because of the experience I had with it. So after lunch, I head over to the Honda showroom and was greeted by the salesman. Well not a grumpy one this time.  tongue.gif
Long story cut short, I had a look at the new City and ask about the price and features then went for a test drive.

Honda was generous with their petrol and the City I test drive had a full tank of petrol unlike the Forte and Almera  vmad.gif 
This time I was able to test drive the City on the expressway and manage to go up to 120 KM/h  smile.gif
Compared to the previous 4th Gen City my sis drove, this new City felt under-powered and the acceleration was a bit slower.
It was spacious inside the City but then the armrest is still the one thing that keeps blocking my leg.
The sound insulation was not good and driving above 100KM/h I could hear the wind outside.
The hand brake feels tight and more force were needed to pull it up compared to the previous City.
Heading back to the Honda showroom, I requested the salesman whether I could test drive the new Civic.

Although the new Civic looks a step backward compared to the previous Civic, still I decided to give it a go to compare it against the Forte.
Getting on to the Civic 2.0 Navi, the interior design was quite futuristic and gave me the same feel as the Forte.
The Forte and Civic had almost the same features only with a different price tag.
On the test drive I went on the same route as I did for the City and WOW it was a complete different feel compare to the City.
The sound insulation was good, the speed and acceleration was great and on top of it the handling is superb.

Overall, the new City was a disappointment and priced at RM90K. The new Civic on the other hand was a good drive but priced at RM 115K for the lowest spec and RM 136K for the highest spec.

Toyota Vios and Altis
Seeing that there are lots of Toyota users on the road, I thought to myself that Toyota can't be half bad as Honda since there are so many Toyotas and Toyota has been in Malaysia for quite a long time.

So I went to the Toyota Showroom which is located the furthest away from my home. The service center for Toyota is just behind the Toyota showroom and
if I need to service my car in the future I would had to travel quite a distance to the service center.

While at Toyota, I was greeted by a friendly salesgirl whom is so kind to go in detail on the specs of both the Vios and Altis.
Firstly I tried the Vios since it was within my price range and would probably go for it if the ride was good.
First impression on the Vios was good looking exterior but interior was plain and simple like the City.
Feature wise, it was worse than the Honda City and it was not as spacious as the City.

Next I had a look at the Altis, it was the same as with the Vios. Not much features and not spacious enough. The looks was OK though.
So I test drive the Vios first and Toyota is as stingy as Nissan and Kia for giving minimum fuel for test driving.
I wanted to test the Vios on the main road and expressway but the salesgirl said I could only drive within the taman as she forgotten to bring the license plate...
It was a very short drive and it ended within 5 minutes. It was the same thing with Altis too...

For Toyotas, the speed and acceleration was OK but the features offered was minimal.
And for such a price tag on these cars it was a major turn off.

To sum it up, I would still go for the Forte even though Honda was my favourite brand.
Was going to go for the Forte 1.6SX until a friend of my father told him that Forte breakdown a lot and no resale value.

There goes my dream of owning a Forte...  sad.gif

Anyway just my 2 cents on Forte, City, Civic, Vios, Altis and Almera for those who are planning to own a car.
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post Nov 7 2012, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(mbax @ Nov 7 2012, 11:03 AM)
new rims after downgrade to 16".. tyre look dem big blink.gif ... but more comfy then kumho a little bit less than toyo...
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lols.. the tyre looks really big..haha laugh.gif
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post Nov 7 2012, 02:03 PM

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Talk about sales advisors, i guess honda's are the most friendly IMHO O:) Luckily my advisor isa friendly guy although a bit kedukut on test drive petrol.That's one of the reason i chose Forte, the main reason is thepackage that comes with the car. I mean where can you get that kind of extras with that pricing. However i think u should testdrive preve as well since its also quite new in the market biggrin.gif
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post Nov 7 2012, 02:31 PM

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post Nov 7 2012, 02:36 PM

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Very good news smile.gif and the second flagship red cube centre will be in JB.

Naza Kia to expand operations


It’s rationalising, upgrading branch network It plans to invest RM16mil in new outlets in three states

Hafiz (inset) says the company has invested RM34mil to refurbish 16 of its branches in line with Kia’snew logo and space identity
KUALA LUMPUR: Naza Kia Malaysia Sdn Bhd, the official distributor of Kia vehicles in the country, plans to invest up to RM6mil to open new branches in Rawang and Kuantan and another RM10mil on a new Kia Red Cube in Johor Baru.

Naza Kia Malaysia chief operating officer Datuk Hafiz Syed Abu Bakar said the new Kia Red Cube would be the company's second flagship outlet and the first for the southern region.

“The Rawang and Kuantan branches will be ready by the first quarter of next year, and the Red Cube in Johor Baru will be ready by the first half. There will also be another Red Cube in the northen region, maybe in Penang,” he said at the re-launch of Setapak outlet, which has now been up upgraded to a 4S (sales, service, spare parts and spray paint) facility.

The company invested RM4mil to upgrade the Setapak outlet to a 4S outlet to include body and paint facilities, a customer lounge, service advisory area, meeting rooms and Kia's new logo and space identity.

He said the investment for the Setapak 4S centre was also part of an extensive network upgrading exercise undertaken by Naza Kia Malaysia this year to incorporate Kia's new Global Space Identity.

“At the same time, we began a network upgrading exercise and have invested RM34mil to refurbish 16 of our branches to be in line with this new direction that places a strong emphasis on design,” he said.

With the exception of Naza Kia's Setapak 4S centre, he said the company had invested RM2mil to upgrade and refurbish each branch.

“We aim to end the year hitting our sales target of about 13,000 to 14,000 units. We started with a sales target of 18,000 units but our sales are limited by supply,” he said.

He also said 2012 had been a strong year for the Kia brand in Malaysia. As of Oct 31, the compaby had sold 10,500 units, which was 13% higher from last year.

He said the company targeted to sell 18,000 cars next year and to achieve that, it had to launch its B segment car into the market.

He also said the company used to have 77 showrooms but “have reduced the number to 60.” “More does not necessarily mean better. We have also reduced our service centres to 69 from the previous 80 outlets,” he said.

He said the company closed six to seven outlets last year and was still rationalising its operations to move to more strategic locations. “Actually, we told Kia Motors that we will bring the showroom numbers down to 60 and maintain it at 60. At the rate we are growing, 10% to 15% annually, by the third year, 60 showrooms would be just nice.”

. The sales target for each outlet is 400 units per year and besides rationalising our outlets and locations, we will also look at our model line-up,” he said.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...46&sec=business


Added on November 7, 2012, 2:38 pmAny feedback to share on the red cube centre at PJ now? How many stars out of 10? Thanks smile.gif

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post Nov 7 2012, 03:33 PM

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The company invested RM4mil to upgrade the Setapak outlet to a 4S outlet...

Naza Kia's Setapak 4S centre <---- rclxms.gif

But... No alignment and balancing equipment/facilities are available there..
So many times go there for service..already told and ask about this and they said..send outside..How come? hmm.gif



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post Nov 7 2012, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman7 @ Nov 7 2012, 03:33 PM)
The company invested RM4mil to upgrade the Setapak outlet to a 4S outlet...

Naza Kia's Setapak 4S centre <----  rclxms.gif

But... No alignment and balancing equipment/facilities are available there..
So many times go there for service..already told and ask about this and they said..send outside..How come? hmm.gif
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Alignment or balancing you can do it outside with your preferable shops..
don't need to send to them... price range should be same. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zerIX @ Nov 7 2012, 02:31 PM)
Pls add me too. 1.6 SX white
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QUOTE(camron @ Nov 7 2012, 04:14 PM)
Alignment or balancing you can do it outside with your preferable shops..
don't need to send to them... price range should be same.  tongue.gif
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There is no point to invested RM4mil to upgrade naza kia Setapak to become 4S..IF those equipments are not available at their place..its a basic needs for customers to come for servicing sometime want to do alignment and balancing osso..

so customer dont have to waste time to go to 2 different places.. do service go to SC..when we ask to do alignment/balancing they told you to go outside..you get what I mean?
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post Nov 7 2012, 07:38 PM

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Bro, when was the last time you went to the 4s? When was the upgrading finished?
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Anyone looking to buy new forte, u may call to this guy, CS ONG, 016-778 6867
He really give the best offer after i compared n negotiated with 4other SA.
He is forte owner too, so he know well wat new forte owner looking for.
Proud to be forte owner..
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Hi, can any kind soul please explain the main differences between PP (polypropylene) and abs plastic? Thanks!
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QUOTE(Forte-Wanna-Be @ Nov 7 2012, 07:38 PM)
Bro, when was the last time you went to the 4s? When was the upgrading finished?
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I dont know whether the upgrading already completed or not..
but..last Friday..I go there for 70K service..I ask to do alignment and balancing together..but the guy at the caunter told me to do outside.. frankly said they have the equipments but not install it yet...according by that guy..

to be surprise I've been asking this since my 20K, 30K, 40K, 50K, 60K services..i spoke to myself..how can this be..hmm..

last Friday also I've ask them to check for the car batery..and suprisingly they want to charge me RM80 just to printing out the result from the batery checking tool..is it standard?? have someone here facing same situation as mine too?
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QUOTE(Iceman7 @ Nov 7 2012, 08:07 PM)
I dont know whether the upgrading already completed or not..
but..last Friday..I go there for 70K service..I ask to do alignment and balancing together..but the guy at the caunter told me to do outside.. frankly said they have the equipments but not install it yet...according by that guy..

to be surprise I've been asking this since my 20K, 30K, 40K, 50K, 60K services..i spoke to myself..how can this be..hmm..
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Oh, then maybe give them some time to beef up, since the upgrading news just came out mah ... Think they r serious since they are setting up more quality centers. Fingers crossed yah ...
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QUOTE(Paper_Panda @ Nov 7 2012, 12:56 PM)
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good info for you bro tongue.gif http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2571040&hl=forte

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Hi guys, i am still quite confuse about Forte's fuel consumption, i am going to drive it for work from BM to Penang. Will it cost a leg? How is it compare to a diesel engine triton? Sincerely hope the sifus's sharing :-)
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QUOTE(Rolland @ Nov 7 2012, 09:34 PM)
Hi guys, i am still quite confuse about Forte's fuel consumption, i am going to drive it for work from BM to Penang. Will it cost a leg? How is it compare to a diesel engine triton? Sincerely hope the sifus's sharing :-)
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Triton's penang bridge toll rate much expensive than car (RM9.60 (pickup) vs RM5.60 (car)) tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Rolland @ Nov 7 2012, 09:34 PM)
Hi guys, i am still quite confuse about Forte's fuel consumption, i am going to drive it for work from BM to Penang. Will it cost a leg? How is it compare to a diesel engine triton? Sincerely hope the sifus's sharing :-)
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I drive Forte 1.6SX from BM to Penang everyday. Average 65-70km including return route. The FC is about 9.8L/100KM. Recently, if you know less jam on the bridge because n-park bottleneck gone, the FC improved to 9L/100KM.

So, average ... the full tank 52L should let you run 450KM-500KM with everyday travel from BM to Penang.


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QUOTE(mbax @ Nov 7 2012, 11:03 AM)
new rims after downgrade to 16".. tyre look dem big blink.gif ... but more comfy then kumho a little bit less than toyo...
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What is the weight of this rim? What is the purpose you downgrade to 16?


Added on November 7, 2012, 10:50 pm
QUOTE(Bongpb @ Nov 7 2012, 01:10 PM)
Yes, many people worry about resale value, frequent breakdown etc, and for me the fuel consumption is scary, i drive 60% highway and 40% city, 10-11L/100km, on RON95.  cry.gif

Anyway, once decided for Kia Forte, i dun give a damm on what other people say, coz i just enjoy driving Forte  biggrin.gif
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Yours is 2.0 izzit? And your right leg press hard hard to vroom? rclxms.gif


Added on November 7, 2012, 10:58 pm
QUOTE(Paper_Panda @ Nov 7 2012, 01:29 PM)
Well I am not dependent of what my father's friend told him. My choice is still the forte and I trust my choice. Is just that my father is against Korean cars for their low resale value. Although I did argue that Korean cars are improving and had gotten better compare to last couple of years ago. Anyways my father is those H/T types which still thinks that Japanese car rule the market.
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Your sharing is really good. We appreciate that.

Well, I owned Forte 1.6SX for 3 months already. I can tell you this car is worth to get despite the fuel consumption. Where you can get segment C car below RM100k for 2.0 CC? where you can get 1.6CC sedan below RM85k with full features? (Beside Potong Inspira and Preve) If this is your second car, and you prefer a comfortable and stable drive, go for it.

If this is the only car in your family and you need to drive frequently, and 100% city drive, then you need to consider as the fuel consumption is high in city drive. The car weight is 1.3 ton and Korea engine still not competitive with Honda / Nissan / Toyota in term of fuel consumption. I would say it is slightly higher compare to Civic and Altis. My forte city drive hit 10L/100KM and I believe Civic and Altis can easily achieve 9L/100KM or even less.

Dont worry about resale value. A lot of peoples using Forte / Elantra now. And when you check the 2nd hand car value for Forte, it is not bad. This is not important especially when you will use the car for long term.


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