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post Sep 24 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(alcatrez @ Sep 24 2012, 11:46 AM)
i think it is utterly rubbish to have the speed camera there.

The highway is safe to go 90km/h (my GPS says 90km/h also. same as driver).

Why 80 km/h?

i simply don't understand.

Statistics show that bike accidents are more than cars and buses. So why not focus more on cars and buses?

Or why not spend the money on public transportation? If there is a convenient bus from Shah Alam to Bangi, i would  not require to drive my car.

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because even if speed limit is 90 nobody does 90, everyone does 100-110, if the limit 110 everyone does 120-130.

so how to not have a camera to force people to slow down?

and these are supposedly accident prone areas, so only way to slow them down it to put the camera there
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just wondering, if the AES needs flash, does this mean that other speedtraps doesnt work at night?
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post Sep 24 2012, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Sep 24 2012, 03:04 PM)
because even if speed limit is 90 nobody does 90, everyone does 100-110, if the limit 110 everyone does 120-130.

so how to not have a camera to force people to slow down?

and these are supposedly accident prone areas, so only way to slow them down it to put the camera there
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4.90453,100.66797

i think this stretch got many people testing their top speed. brows.gif
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Sep 24 2012, 03:04 PM)
because even if speed limit is 90 nobody does 90, everyone does 100-110, if the limit 110 everyone does 120-130.

so how to not have a camera to force people to slow down?

and these are supposedly accident prone areas, so only way to slow them down it to put the camera there
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Like i said, investment in public transport is much more effective.


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post Sep 25 2012, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(alcatrez @ Sep 25 2012, 02:10 AM)
Like i said, investment in public transport is much more effective.
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Thats a lie also, i gurantee with world class public transport we will still buy cars like no tomorrow, because it's asian culture that a car represents a status symbol and asians are all about face so cars will still be bought.

Personally i think it's nice the government is spending on mrt, but i think it will have low usage by malaysians mostly foreigners only
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post Sep 25 2012, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Sep 25 2012, 07:31 AM)
Thats a lie also, i gurantee with world class public transport we will still buy cars like no tomorrow, because it's asian culture that a car represents a status symbol and asians are all about face so cars will still be bought.

Personally i think it's nice the government is spending on mrt, but i think it will have low usage by malaysians mostly foreigners only
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Everybody will DRIVE to the MRT/LRT stations instead of taking shuttle bus, causing more jam especially the upcoming MRT stations in Cheras doh.gif
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Sep 25 2012, 07:31 AM)
Thats a lie also, i gurantee with world class public transport we will still buy cars like no tomorrow, because it's asian culture that a car represents a status symbol and asians are all about face so cars will still be bought.

Personally i think it's nice the government is spending on mrt, but i think it will have low usage by malaysians mostly foreigners only
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This i have to disagree. If the public transport is on time and efficient and you have access to all area like in Japan. I think u see less ppl driving and more will be taking MRT.

Japan is prime example and you see less ppl driving in Japan. Even youngster there prefer their train system as more convenient and faster to work or to school. If only we have more access area and no breakdown and train on time. I doubt Malaysia can do it even with its new MRT in place.
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Yesterday drive through SKVE, doing 78km/h on my speedo constantly, there is no flash when few cars doing more than 90km/h, but the time I sampai(78km/h), the camera flash shakehead.gif I am pretty sure no single vehicle is doing faster than my speed(as I was observing 500km before the camera)

Then I was thinking, is the camera capturing vehicle on opposite lane? (outside Petronas) hmm.gif
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post Sep 25 2012, 10:01 AM

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I wonder what happen if there are 3 cars on each lane, 2 of them speeding below speed limit then suddenly a car speeding over the limit reaches the camera area lining up with the other 2 cars. how the camera decides which 1 is over the speed limit then?
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Sep 25 2012, 10:01 AM)
I wonder what happen if there are 3 cars on each lane, 2 of them speeding below speed limit then suddenly a car speeding over the limit reaches the camera area lining up with the other 2 cars. how the camera decides which 1 is over the speed limit then?
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The cameras don't take one measurement, they take two and calculate the time between both and then can find out the speed of the car because the speed of the measuring pulse is constant.

Each measurement i guess take miliseconds, so even before you spot the camera it has already done measurements on all 3 cars more then once

This post has been edited by rcracer: Sep 25 2012, 12:46 PM
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post Sep 25 2012, 12:47 PM

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the have sensors paved/fixed on the lane/road.
like in putrajaya 3 box type sensors because 3 lane.
i dont know what will happen if a car is on the middle between these sensors.
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post Sep 26 2012, 07:43 AM

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PETALING JAYA: When the light turns amber, you have just two seconds before it turns red and the cameras catch you committing a traffic offence under the Automated Enforcement System.

This allowance is given in consideration of the “human element” in the event that you are not able to stop immediately when the light turns amber.

Under the AES, you are also given a leeway of 10kph beyond the speed limit, according to Road Transport Department director-general Datuk Solah Mat Hassan.

For example, if the speed limit is 110kph, you will only be “captured” on AES camera if you exceed 120kph, he told a media briefing here yesterday.

As such, he said, signages were put up to give ample warning on the presence of cameras.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4&if_height=525

Finally!

Some first world implementation
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post Sep 26 2012, 09:07 AM

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thumbs up for that.
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post Sep 26 2012, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(sengasdf @ Sep 25 2012, 09:16 AM)
Yesterday drive through SKVE, doing 78km/h on my speedo constantly, there is no flash when few cars doing more than 90km/h, but the time I sampai(78km/h), the camera flash  shakehead.gif  I am pretty sure no single vehicle is doing faster than my speed(as I was observing 500km before the camera)

Then I was thinking, is the camera capturing vehicle on opposite lane? (outside Petronas)  hmm.gif
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wow, you can observe from far away. impressive! laugh.gif

I think the camera does not capture vehicle on opposite lane (my guess)...who knows?

This post has been edited by eastwest: Sep 26 2012, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Sep 26 2012, 09:20 AM)
wow, you can observe from far away. impressive! laugh.gif
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I travel home from cyberjaya using that path daily... got to observe properly to prevent ticket.

going uphill less than 80km/h is a pain in the ass.... vmad.gif
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post Sep 26 2012, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(sengasdf @ Sep 26 2012, 09:24 AM)
I travel home from cyberjaya using that path daily... got to observe properly to prevent ticket.

going uphill less than 80km/h is a pain in the ass.... vmad.gif
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paying 300 is more pain tho.. smile.gif
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post Sep 26 2012, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(sengasdf @ Sep 26 2012, 09:24 AM)
I travel home from cyberjaya using that path daily... got to observe properly to prevent ticket.

going uphill less than 80km/h is a pain in the ass.... vmad.gif
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well, they are smart also to install the camera at that location, since many car like to drive fast at that point because of the area geography....(downhill and then go uphill)...
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post Sep 26 2012, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Sep 26 2012, 09:20 AM)
wow, you can observe from far away. impressive! laugh.gif

I think the camera does not capture vehicle on opposite lane (my guess)...who knows?
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QUOTE(sengasdf @ Sep 26 2012, 09:24 AM)
I travel home from cyberjaya using that path daily... got to observe properly to prevent ticket.

going uphill less than 80km/h is a pain in the ass.... vmad.gif
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Sengasdf, actually he referring your typo error, 500km = 500 000 m shocking.gif
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post Sep 26 2012, 09:56 AM

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The one are the oldKlang road (Toward PJ near Pearl Point) are installed and hide behind of the tree...which will not noticed and I didn't see any warning sign put inplace at all.
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Sep 26 2012, 09:20 AM)
wow, you can observe from far away. impressive! laugh.gif

I think the camera does not capture vehicle on opposite lane (my guess)...who knows?
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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Sep 26 2012, 09:34 AM)
Sengasdf, actually he referring your typo error, 500km = 500 000 m  shocking.gif
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Sorry, another typo, is meter laugh.gif


QUOTE(irmo @ Sep 26 2012, 09:27 AM)
paying 300 is more pain tho.. smile.gif
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G just brought our difficulty to cari makan to another higher level sad.gif

QUOTE(eastwest @ Sep 26 2012, 09:28 AM)
well, they are smart also to install the camera at that location, since many car like to drive fast at that point because of the area geography....(downhill and then go uphill)...
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Actually it is not we "like" to drive fast there. Since it is going uphill, surely people will speed up so they won't suffer from losing too much power

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