QUOTE(gark @ Nov 9 2012, 07:13 PM)
Remember REIT acts like bond/fd during good times but when the economy crash or during bad times it will act like a stock.
So wouldn't it be better to just buy dividend stocks that pay as good a dividend as REITs?Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V3, Read 1st post to find highest rate.
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Nov 10 2012, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Nov 9 2012, 07:01 PM) REITs in Malaysia have not been tested by such severe market crash, thus no precedent to qoute. There wasn't any REIT during the stock market meltdown in 1998 if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure panic selling will definitely put on downside pressure to the prices of REITs. But the lower the price the higher the yield as mentioned by Bro gark above. Which REIT bargain hunter wouldn't jump in to buy IGB (MV & Garden Mall) and Pavillion REITs when the divident yield above 10% ?QUOTE(gark @ Nov 9 2012, 07:13 PM) Remember REIT acts like bond/fd during good times but when the economy crash or during bad times it will act like a stock. REIT in SG dropped over 70% during the last financial crisis, although continuous dividend is still being paid with yield >15%-20%. MY REITs does better, dropping to 30%-40% during the time, with yield reaching 10%. The yield is more or less following the interest rate movements and being a leveraged investment, will have even higher swing. There is a risk factor to everything and no free lunch. After crisis, how fast your REITs ( the price ) correct itself back to the average market divident yield ?Basically during meltdown, people put their brain in their ass. You must have enough holding power and do not panic. |
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Nov 10 2012, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Nov 10 2012, 05:40 PM) REITs in Malaysia have not been tested by such severe market crash, thus no precedent to qoute. There wasn't any REIT during the stock market meltdown in 1998 if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure panic selling will definitely put on downside pressure to the prices of REITs. But the lower the price the higher the yield as mentioned by Bro gark above. Which REIT bargain hunter wouldn't jump in to buy IGB (MV & Garden Mall) and Pavillion REITs when the divident yield above 10% ? Good point. Reits are more price resistance as their business is relatively more stable compare with other companies.On the other side of the coin, the same can be said when the market rise from 1200 to 1600, the price of Reits should lag behind ? |
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Nov 10 2012, 09:19 PM
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I think REITs can lose money too, when it leverage too highly to acquire real-estates and the falling rental income during a crisis cannot match the loan interest and other expenses.
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Nov 11 2012, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Nov 10 2012, 09:12 PM) Good point. Reits are more price resistance as their business is relatively more stable compare with other companies. I guess so. That's why it got the characteristic of minimum price volatility. As dividend yield is determined by rental income, If REITs prices increase within a short period of time, the dividend yield drop, more selling than buying.On the other side of the coin, the same can be said when the market rise from 1200 to 1600, the price of Reits should lag behind ? QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 10 2012, 09:19 PM) I think REITs can lose money too, when it leverage to highly to acquire real-estates and the falling rental income during a crisis cannot match the loan interest and other expenses. I would agree with you on this. Must check the gearing before jumping in. |
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Nov 12 2012, 02:06 PM
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Does anyone have experience opening a Malaysia bank account as a foreigner? Can I submit the forms through email/post or do I have to be there at the branch physically?
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Nov 12 2012, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(RigorMortis @ Nov 12 2012, 02:06 PM) Does anyone have experience opening a Malaysia bank account as a foreigner? Can I submit the forms through email/post or do I have to be there at the branch physically? If you go to the branch, and you have relevant documents, don't see any reason why you cannot open a bank account. |
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Nov 5 2012, 04:52 PM) Bro, click here to FD V2 Thread and do a search on MBSB and you can read our previous comments on MBSB. One question. Why Savers and not Savers-i? Since I saw Savers-i can still earn 0.4% when funds is below 2k.To All, posted below at CC section, maybe some of you here can also benefit from my story I wanted to open a Maybank Basic Savings Account which earns nominal interest rates but was recommended against doing so. Instead the Maybank Exec recommended that I opened a Normal Savings Account for my purpose of linking all my Maybank Credit Cards to it in order for me to make payments online via Maybank2U. It seems that the Maybank Basic Savings Account cannot be linked to my Maybank Credit Cards at M2U For those of you who uses Maybank2U to pay your credit card bills, utilities bills, Local Council Assessments/Taxes and etc, you should look into getting the Maybank2U Savers Account (if you have not) because it earns you interest daily and credited into the account monthly. Click below link to read my story of My New Maybankard Platinum MasterCard Debit Card and Maybank2U Savers. And maybe you can earn some extra money after reading it My Maybankard Platinum Debit Card for My Maybank Credit Cards and Maybank2U Savers |
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Nov 12 2012, 06:20 PM
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Nov 12 2012, 06:31 PM
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Nov 12 2012, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Nov 12 2012, 06:31 PM) Bro, I'm not being sarcastic lah, it is a fact, as you pointed out, the Saver-i earns you interest even if your balance is RM1 versus nothing for Savers until it hits RM2K. So, come to think of it, I should have sign up for Saver-i since I know it does pay interest when our deposit is less than RM2K but somehow failed to do so and as such was a fool This post has been edited by Gen-X: Nov 12 2012, 06:35 PM |
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Nov 12 2012, 06:35 PM) Bro, I'm not being sarcastic lah, it is a fact, as you pointed out, the Saver-i earns you interest even if you balance is RM1 versus nothing for Savers until it hits RM2K. So, come to think of it, I should have sign up for Saver-i since I know it does pay interest when our deposit is less than RM2K but somehow failed to do so and as such was a fool |
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For OCBC premier banking, the 5% p.a 3 months promotional rate in one of the T&C mentions that :
3.5.8. This Premier 3-month FD Promotion is limited to one FD placement for each Eligible Premier Banking Customer. Does it mean that if i transferred subsequent fresh fund after the first placement, i am not entitled to the 5% p.a promotional rate for second batch of transfer? |
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