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off_shore
post Nov 16 2012, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(lipton tea @ Nov 15 2012, 08:42 PM)
Job Title : Teacher
Job description: just join as fulltime teacher in a newly setup kindy which just operated in October
Education : Degree
Years spent in company : 2 months ( just newly setup)
Location: Penang
Company : Tadika
Age: 28
Industry : Education
Tenure :  Contract ( currently being offered a 1 year renewable contract )
Employment Level : Non executive
Experience before joining : 4 years ( 2 years in customer service, 1 year teaching english as private tutor and 1 year as teacher in an enrichment center)
Salary : RM 1800
Pros: EPF and SOCSO & 2x training a year
Cons: No annual leave and no medical benefits ( x medical leave)
          If serve less than 1 year, need to pay 2 mths salary + in house training fees and other types of training provided (rm 2500) = Total RM 6500 if breach  contract
So what do you guys think and feel and what suggestions can you give or just share your opinion about this....thanks
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how come no annual leave and medical leave???? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif first time i heard about this, what if you fall sick? You are gonna pay back the MC you've taken? No annual leave I understand maybe follow Malaysia's standard holiday system.. but no medical leave?? Gosh doh.gif
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post Nov 16 2012, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(lipton tea @ Nov 15 2012, 10:11 PM)
I already sign d contract....i cannot cry over spilt milk can i?

Slap myself *piak piak*

Im amazed that i took up the offer despite such benefits....i must have been hypnotized... doh.gif
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just stay 1 year lo.... or if you can find other job which can offer you better package to cover the penalty ... smile.gif
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post Nov 16 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(RigorMortis @ Nov 15 2012, 11:51 PM)
You'll be better off not hearing negative opinions about yr salary package until your contract is due, otherwise it's gonna be a tough one year for you.  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(off_shore @ Nov 16 2012, 12:28 AM)
how come no annual leave and medical leave????  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif first time i heard about this, what if you fall sick? You are gonna pay back the MC you've taken? No annual leave I understand maybe follow Malaysia's standard holiday system.. but no medical leave?? Gosh  doh.gif
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Rigor Mortis.....totally agree with u....

Off_shore....i get what u mean, when i asked her why no medical leave she said that this center is still new and not yet established so she is unable to give such benefits...she say we will see how it goes in the 2nd yr or 3rd year...
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post Nov 16 2012, 12:07 PM

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Job Title : System Engineer
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Job description: Messaging n collaboration
Years spent in company : 1 month
Company : IT
Industry : IT
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Exec
Experience before joining : 4 years in Messaging
salary : RM 6000



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post Nov 16 2012, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(JuhariS @ Nov 16 2012, 12:07 PM)
Job Title : System Engineer
Age:28
Job description: Messaging n collaboration
Years spent in company : 1 month
Company : IT
Industry : IT
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Exec
Experience before joining : 4 years in Messaging
salary : RM 6000
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shocking.gif well done

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post Nov 16 2012, 05:28 PM

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salary : RM 4k + petrol

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post Nov 16 2012, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(off_shore @ Nov 16 2012, 12:28 AM)
how come no annual leave and medical leave????  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif first time i heard about this, what if you fall sick? You are gonna pay back the MC you've taken? No annual leave I understand maybe follow Malaysia's standard holiday system.. but no medical leave?? Gosh  doh.gif
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assure ya'll the law is on your side. this is abuse. report to MOHR.
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post Nov 17 2012, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(Liuism @ Nov 16 2012, 04:26 PM)
shocking.gif well done
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Thanks Lui, but I heard some ppl could get more than 10k in other MNC"s drool.gif drool.gif
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post Nov 17 2012, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(qilaf @ Nov 16 2012, 09:33 PM)
assure ya'll the law is on your side. this is abuse. report to MOHR.
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Apparently, the principal cum owner has been an employee all her life and she probably doesnt understand abt employment/hiring rules....
Just curious what can the labour office staffs do even if they find out abt this....afraid that they r gonna ask me to bawa dia masuk sini...kita bincang bersama sama....
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post Nov 17 2012, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(lipton tea @ Nov 15 2012, 08:42 PM)
Job Title : Teacher
Job description: just join as fulltime teacher in a newly setup kindy which just operated in October
Education : Degree
Years spent in company : 2 months ( just newly setup)
Location: Penang
Company : Tadika
Age: 28
Industry : Education
Tenure :   Contract ( currently being offered a 1 year renewable contract )
Employment Level : Non executive
Experience before joining : 4 years ( 2 years in customer service, 1 year teaching english as private tutor and 1 year as teacher in an enrichment center)
Salary : RM 1800
Pros: EPF and SOCSO & 2x training a year
Cons: No annual leave and no medical benefits ( x medical leave)
          If serve less than 1 year, need to pay 2 mths salary + in house training fees and other types of training provided (rm 2500) = Total RM 6500 if breach   contract
So what do you guys think and feel and what suggestions can you give or just share your opinion about this....thanks
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Since you in the same industry, let me share with you my girlfriend salary.

Job Title : Lead Teacher
Job description: A full time teacher working from 7am till 4pm.
Education : Diploma
Years spent in company : 1 year +
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Company : Childcare center
Age: 27
Industry : Education
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Non executive
Experience before joining : 4 years+ in 4 different company.
Salary : RM 2200
Benefit: Annual leave (10 days IINM) MC (cant remember).

Future company (January 2013)
Job description: A full time teacher working from 8 till 3pm.
Education : Diploma in early chilhood
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Company : Childcare center
Industry : Education
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Non executive
Salary : RM 2200


No AL but throughout the whole year, there will be around 2 months+ of holidays. Just sharing some info. What kind of training they provide? KAAK?

This post has been edited by sub_noob: Nov 17 2012, 01:56 AM
lipton tea
post Nov 17 2012, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(sub_noob @ Nov 17 2012, 01:52 AM)
Since you in the same industry, let me share with you my girlfriend salary.

Job Title : Lead Teacher
Job description: A full time teacher working from 7am till 4pm.
Education : Diploma
Years spent in company : 1 year +
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Company : Childcare center
Age: 27
Industry : Education
Tenure :  Permanent
Employment Level : Non executive
Experience before joining : 4 years+ in 4 different company.
Salary : RM 2200
Benefit: Annual leave (10 days IINM) MC (cant remember).

Future company (January 2013)
Job description: A full time teacher working from 8 till 3pm.
Education : Diploma in early chilhood
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Company : Childcare center
Industry : Education
Tenure :  Permanent
Employment Level : Non executive
Salary : RM 2200
No AL but throughout the whole year, there will be around 2 months+ of holidays. Just sharing some info. What kind of training they provide? KAAK?
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Hi sub_noob, thanks for sharing....well, for this one year, not entitled to any holidays, no skool holidays as well, then if they renew my contract in the 2nd yr, u will get maybe 1/3 of the skool holidays....but the owner says she will see how the 2nd n 3rd yr goes....coz like she told me earlier, the center is still new and not yet established so she is unable to afford to give medical benefits and also wont be medical leave. She put one teacher to every age group...so i believe she didnt think ahead...like what happens if teacher gets high fever, i think she still expect u to take panadol and come to work coz no one is going to look after the 20 students that u r responsible for.

For training, it will be next month only for 3 days, then in august next yr there will be another one week training, i think its like education training, motivational training as what the principal told me. Currently we only have 2 staffs as we r still looking for a fulltime mandarin teacher...school will only start in january next yr, so from oct til dec, we r registering, recruiting n getting the center all ready
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post Nov 17 2012, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(sub_noob @ Nov 17 2012, 01:52 AM)
Since you in the same industry, let me share with you my girlfriend salary.

Job Title : Lead Teacher
Job description: A full time teacher working from 7am till 4pm.
Education : Diploma
Years spent in company : 1 year +
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Company : Childcare center
Age: 27
Industry : Education
Tenure :  Permanent
Employment Level : Non executive
Experience before joining : 4 years+ in 4 different company.
Salary : RM 2200
Benefit: Annual leave (10 days IINM) MC (cant remember).

Future company (January 2013)
Job description: A full time teacher working from 8 till 3pm.
Education : Diploma in early chilhood
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Company : Childcare center
Industry : Education
Tenure :  Permanent
Employment Level : Non executive
Salary : RM 2200
No AL but throughout the whole year, there will be around 2 months+ of holidays. Just sharing some info. What kind of training they provide? KAAK?
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my heart goes to you my fren. Teaching is a honorable profession. Best wishes!



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post Nov 17 2012, 10:20 PM

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Job description: Doing Basis Work at End User
Years spent in company : 1 month
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Industry : Manufacturing
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Analyst
Experience before joining : 2 years in SAP Basis [Consulting] + 2 Years doing MES Support for Semiconductor [Wafer Fabrication]
Salary : RM 6500

p/s: Manufacturing Execution System = MES

This post has been edited by Basis_Jagung: Nov 17 2012, 10:25 PM
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post Nov 17 2012, 11:41 PM

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Job Title: Middleware Support Engineer
Job Description: Maintain & support system e.g. Oracle Weblogic, Service Bus & etc
Years spent in company: 11 months
Company: Telco (Operator)
Tenure: Permanent
Employment level: Associate
Experience before joining : 4 months in Telco (vendor)
Salary : RM 2600 + 450(Standby Allowance) + OT

Underpaid? Feel like changing job. Current job too stressful...headache with production issue or system outage rclxub.gif
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post Nov 18 2012, 03:32 AM

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Experience before joining : 3 months of internship
salary : RM 2.5k + RM 850 Allowances

underpaid?



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post Nov 18 2012, 04:00 AM

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QUOTE(lipton tea @ Nov 17 2012, 10:06 AM)
Hi sub_noob, thanks for sharing....well, for this one year, not entitled to any holidays, no skool holidays as well, then if they renew my contract in the 2nd yr, u will get maybe 1/3 of the skool holidays....but the owner says she will see how the 2nd n 3rd yr goes....coz like she told me earlier, the center is still new and not yet established so she is unable to afford to give medical benefits and also wont be medical leave. She put one teacher to every age group...so i believe she didnt think ahead...like what happens if teacher gets high fever, i think she still expect u to take panadol and come to work coz no one is going to look after the 20 students that u r responsible for.

For training, it will be next month only for 3 days, then in august next yr there will be another one week training, i think its like education training,  motivational training as what the principal told me. Currently we only have 2  staffs as we r still looking for a fulltime mandarin teacher...school will only start in january next yr, so from oct til dec, we r registering, recruiting n getting the center all ready
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I do think that at least MC is a must if no AL. My girlfriend kindergarten opened around September last year but still provide AL and MC. The ratio for children and teacher also quite high IMO. Make sure that your principal send you to take KAAK course and starting next year, you have to take this Permata training. Its compulsory IINM for all teachers in the industry. You have degree in early childhood?

QUOTE(bennyk @ Nov 17 2012, 10:10 AM)
my heart goes to you my fren. Teaching is a honorable profession. Best wishes!
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post Nov 18 2012, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(lipton tea @ Nov 17 2012, 01:07 AM)
Apparently, the principal cum owner has been an employee all her life and she probably doesnt understand abt employment/hiring rules....
Just curious what can the labour office staffs do even if they find out abt this....afraid that they r gonna ask me to bawa dia masuk sini...kita bincang bersama sama....
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that's always the case...I was a part timer at machines..then the company decided to up the target for the full timers and make it near impossible to achieve..had nothing to do with me (I only PT staff) but i was pissed. I wrote to Dato Subramaniam of MOHR.. then Jabatan Tenaga Kerja called and asked details..they say unless if the actually staff come, there is nothing they can do about it.. tried asking my friend, the full time to come forward..he say he scared..

This post has been edited by qilaf: Nov 18 2012, 05:21 PM
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post Nov 18 2012, 10:14 PM

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Tenure : 1 year contract after that convert to permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining : fresh grads
salary : RM 2.5k

my pay should be standard right? but i get no allowance for OT but have some other basic benefit like medical, SOCSO and EPF...

i'm going to get the ISTQB training and cert soon

hardly see people work as a test engineer hmm.gif

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post Nov 19 2012, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(d7adict @ Nov 18 2012, 03:32 AM)
Job Title : Payroll Executive
Age : 23
Job Desciption : Processing and reconcile payroll globally
Years spent in company : 1 month
Company : MNC
Industry : HR
Tenure : contract
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining : 3 months of internship
salary : RM 2.5k + RM 850 Allowances

underpaid?
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If the RM850 is consistent every month then nope, you're not underpaid considering your age and years spent in the company.

QUOTE(amduser @ Nov 18 2012, 10:14 PM)
Job Title : Test Engineer
Job Desciption : Perform testing for software, mainly web apps
Years spent in company : 2 months
Company : Xchanging Malaysia
Industry : IT
Tenure : 1 year contract after that convert to permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining : fresh grads
salary : RM 2.5k

my pay should be standard right? but i get no allowance for OT but have some other basic benefit like medical, SOCSO and EPF...

i'm going to get the ISTQB training and cert soon

hardly see people work as a test engineer hmm.gif
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Any bonding with the CTFL training + exam provided? Yup, your salary is in within market range smile.gif If you really like testing field, there are loads of QA jobs available in the market smile.gif
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Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Experienced
Experience before joining : Nothing
salary : RM 4.8K

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