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post Jul 30 2012, 11:58 AM

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Guys, have anyone ever encountered rising engine oil level?

when checking engine level this morning, condition cold, level ground as usual, the dip shows engine oil is much higher than 2 days ago when I checked.
radiator checked, no leakage of radiator liquid.

what's wrong? fuel?

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post Jul 30 2012, 02:13 PM

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hi guys..need clarification about my problem...when i do a hard turn (left or right), there is tak tak tak tak sound...anyone know where the sound came from?...is it the driveshaft?...my car will vibrate like hell if my meter pass 120 km/h...doing balancing and allignment recently....already adjust chamber and still got the problem...tyre "makan dalam" a bit...please help.. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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post Jul 30 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(samfisher @ Jul 30 2012, 02:13 PM)
hi guys..need clarification about my problem...when i do a hard turn (left or right), there is tak tak tak tak sound...anyone know where the sound came from?...is it the driveshaft?...my car will vibrate like hell if my meter pass 120 km/h...doing balancing and allignment recently....already adjust chamber and still got the problem...tyre "makan dalam" a bit...please help.. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

thanks  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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sounds like driveshaft, ever check?
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post Jul 30 2012, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(jay @ Jul 28 2012, 10:26 PM)
wira 1.5GLi (A) Rm80 ron 95@rm1.9/L = total 430km then engine stall due to fuel shortage =___=!! finally learn hard lesson on how wira response when not enuf fuel...
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The last few hundred metres before stall, will be jerking/coughing/spluttering.
Similiar like drink from straw, until the last bits of water, then 50-50 suck in air & water.

QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 30 2012, 11:58 AM)
Guys, have anyone ever encountered rising engine oil level?

when checking engine level this morning, condition cold, level ground as usual, the dip shows engine oil is much higher than 2 days ago when I checked.
radiator checked, no leakage of radiator liquid.

what's wrong? fuel?
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How much higher on the dipstick ? 1mm ? 5mm ? 10mm ?
hmm.gif

Try do few more daily cold-check.

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post Jul 30 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 30 2012, 02:16 PM)
sounds like driveshaft, ever check?
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nope... sweat.gif ...15 years old car...maybe is it the time to change it?....any other possibility to confirm it is the driveshaft problem?... hmm.gif
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post Jul 30 2012, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 30 2012, 02:20 PM)
How much higher on the dipstick ? 1mm ? 5mm ? 10mm ?
hmm.gif

Try do few more daily cold-check.
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It's like 5mm higher than last time reading, 2 days ago.
I suspected petrol mix into it. No solid evidence yet. but I checked just now in afternoon, it backs to normal. hmm.gif

checked through net, found this :
""""-In certain cases, the oil level may have risen since the last time you checked. This could be due to condensed water (from combustion), condensed fuel or a coolant leak - all are causes for concern.
-Fuel-diluted motor oil (from blow-by or leakage) can substantially reduce oil viscosity and thin additive concentration. The odor of diesel fuel can often be detected right from the dipstick.
-Free and emulsified water is harmful to the oil and the engine. For short-trip drivers, water condensation may be more acute if your engine has the flexible fuel vehicle (FFV) option and you are burning an alcohol-gasoline fuel blend. It is important to remember that combustion produces water in your engine - more water than the fuel consumed. Most of the water goes out the tailpipe, but if the engine is cool, much of it may condense in the crankcase.
-A simple way to detect water in used motor oil is to put a drop of oil from the dipstick on a hot exhaust manifold. If it crackles (sounds like bacon frying) this is an indication of water contamination. Beware that there is some risk that the drop of oil may catch fire.
-Brand new automobiles imported from Japan may have a high oil level due to short-run engine starts (as many as 50) required when the vehicle is transported from the assembly plant, across the ocean, and finally to the dealer’s lot. In this case, an oil and filter change may be merited.
-Coolant leak is a serious problem relating to high oil level. See Lesson No. 5.
Whatever the cause of the high oil level, the condition needs to be quickly corrected.
Note: accidental overfilling oil into your engine can cause problems too. As the crankshaft rotates it will churn the oil, causing aeration and eventually sustained foam may form. This can lead to overheated motor oil, oxidation and a loss of oil pressure. Spongy aerated oil is hard to pump. It starves the engine and critical lubricated surfaces."""""
http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2650644&st=60

So I guess it fuel mix, as no contamination in my radiator.


Added on July 30, 2012, 2:56 pm
QUOTE(samfisher @ Jul 30 2012, 02:21 PM)
nope... sweat.gif ...15 years old car...maybe is it the time to change it?....any other possibility to confirm it is the driveshaft problem?... hmm.gif
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You have every reason to change the car rclxms.gif even if it is 5months old icon_rolleyes.gif

few common causes led to vibration at high speed
: 1, uneven tyres (includes imbalance tyre),
2, deformed rims,
3, problematic absorber and
4, drive shaft issue.

as you noted there is tak tak tak when you threw your car into corner, 1 and 2 are irrelevant, I have no experience in 3 tongue.gif

4 is safer guess and also I had experienced when the ball joint gao dim liao.

sifu-sifu should be able to give you mroe accurate answer.

This post has been edited by outpace: Jul 30 2012, 02:56 PM
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post Jul 30 2012, 04:29 PM

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Added on July 30, 2012, 4:33 pmengine oil on dip stick will show higher when u check after park overnight because all the oil had returned below... normally what i do is warm up the engine to optimum temp and let it cool down after 15mins then check...

This post has been edited by mxsteven: Jul 30 2012, 04:33 PM
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post Jul 30 2012, 05:40 PM

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Thanks.

Really? I always check the oil level, morning before depart.
interesting suggestion but 20 minutes of precious sleeping time is not joking tongue.gif
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post Jul 30 2012, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 30 2012, 05:40 PM)
Thanks.

Really? I always check the oil level, morning before depart.
interesting suggestion but 20 minutes of precious sleeping time is not joking tongue.gif
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sleeping time? lols i dun get it ... im lost
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I got Gab lowered spring + Gab SA series absorber to let go.. just to clear my store room.. RM250 take everything.. 1 of the absorber need to be serviced others are ok..
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post Jul 30 2012, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 30 2012, 02:46 PM)
It's like 5mm  higher than last time reading, 2 days ago.
I suspected petrol mix into it. No solid evidence yet. but I checked just now in afternoon, it backs to normal. hmm.gif

checked through net, found this :
""""-In certain cases, the oil level may have risen since the last time you checked. This could be due to condensed water (from combustion), condensed fuel or a coolant leak - all are causes for concern.
-Fuel-diluted motor oil (from blow-by or leakage) can substantially reduce oil viscosity and thin additive concentration. The odor of diesel fuel can often be detected right from the dipstick.
-Free and emulsified water is harmful to the oil and the engine. For short-trip drivers, water condensation may be more acute if your engine has the flexible fuel vehicle (FFV) option and you are burning an alcohol-gasoline fuel blend. It is important to remember that combustion produces water in your engine - more water than the fuel consumed. Most of the water goes out the tailpipe, but if the engine is cool, much of it may condense in the crankcase.
-A simple way to detect water in used motor oil is to put a drop of oil from the dipstick on a hot exhaust manifold. If it crackles (sounds like bacon frying) this is an indication of water contamination. Beware that there is some risk that the drop of oil may catch fire.
-Brand new automobiles imported from Japan may have a high oil level due to short-run engine starts (as many as 50) required when the vehicle is transported from the assembly plant, across the ocean, and finally to the dealer’s lot. In this case, an oil and filter change may be merited.
-Coolant leak is a serious problem relating to high oil level. See Lesson No. 5.
Whatever the cause of the high oil level, the condition needs to be quickly corrected.
Note: accidental overfilling oil into your engine can cause problems too. As the crankshaft rotates it will churn the oil, causing aeration and eventually sustained foam may form. This can lead to overheated motor oil, oxidation and a loss of oil pressure. Spongy aerated oil is hard to pump. It starves the engine and critical lubricated surfaces."""""
http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2650644&st=60

So I guess it fuel mix, as no contamination in my radiator.


Added on July 30, 2012, 2:56 pm
You have every reason to change the car rclxms.gif  even if it is 5months old icon_rolleyes.gif

few common causes led to vibration at high speed
: 1, uneven tyres (includes imbalance tyre),
2, deformed rims,
3, problematic absorber and
4, drive shaft issue.

as you noted there is tak tak tak when you threw your car into corner, 1 and 2 are irrelevant, I have no experience in 3  tongue.gif

4 is safer guess and also I had experienced when the ball joint gao dim liao.

sifu-sifu should be able to give you mroe accurate answer.
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thanks mate...will look at the drive shaft asap...really scare something worst will happen when driving.... sweat.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 12:09 AM

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Damn long no lurk here liao... Gratz on the new thread!!! Btw, my wira... tat day i went a lil bit crazy with ma fren... after u turn.. i step on the gas... then the car accelerate hard... then at bout 100 i smell some burning smell in the cabin... then my fren say gt some smoke from the exhaust...

wats wrong with it? 4g15 carb auto..
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hey all.. nice to meet u all..

does anyone knows where is the release bolt for the radiator of Wira 1.6? thinking to flush the radiator soon. the water temp goes up sometimes and was thinking maybe too much rust/dust inside.
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Jul 30 2012, 06:31 PM)
sleeping time? lols i dun get it ... im lost
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I mean early in the morning, I would prefer to sleep longer time rather than start and wait it cool down gauge the oil. laugh.gif
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lolssssss.....
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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 31 2012, 09:38 AM)
I mean early in the morning, I would prefer to sleep longer time rather than start and wait it cool down gauge the oil. laugh.gif
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doh.gif Did you do the check on same condition previously ?

The dip-stick level will be different on all these occasion:
1) After drive and immediate check.
2) After drive and wait 5/10/15/30 minutes.
3) Cold check in morning (without driving for 4-8 hours)

Then you have to use own judgement to compensate slightly for it, as above:
1) the level will be normal or slightly under, but not low-limit.
2) the level will be normal or slightly higher by 1-5mm, but not high-limit
3) the level will be above normal, about 5-15mm, but not high-limit.

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QUOTE(outpace @ Jul 31 2012, 09:38 AM)
I mean early in the morning, I would prefer to sleep longer time rather than start and wait it cool down gauge the oil. laugh.gif
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Do it at night before you sleep lor laugh.gif
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as long there is oil between the min and max level should be ok liow.... if over the max level means too much.... even after i park my car for a week without start, it should be at the max level never exceed. after start the car and warm up and let it cold down, it will be at the level above half somewhere 3/4
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Anyone encounter idle not stable when air-cond on? Keep revving between 200-800 rpm, so sometimes like engine gonna die... Any idea which part faulty? Not interested in adding FICD if possible... Thx...
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QUOTE(k3v_84 @ Jul 31 2012, 08:13 PM)
Anyone encounter idle not stable when air-cond on? Keep revving between 200-800 rpm, so sometimes like engine gonna die... Any idea which part faulty? Not interested in adding FICD if possible... Thx...
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ho ho ho.. FICD kong

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