Hi, how are you now, it's been three years since your post.

Assuming you have been in the business for more than 5 years,

5 years x 12 month x RM20k = RM1.2 million

wow, you are the millionaire now ~

Hi, Mr.Confuse. How are you now, it's been three years since your post.

Assuming you have been in the business for more than 5 years,

5 years x 12 month x RM20k = RM1.2 million

wow, you are the millionaire now ~

Hi, just to check how are you now?

living financial freedom life?

btw, your statements were from different people, because both 'name' and 'address' length are different.

Hahaha this brings back memories, so funny that time this FAKE Millionaire of Mc Ocean tried to lie about his income here.

Where are they now? Married someone rich to settle their Mc Ocean debts, become insurance agent/ property agent, back to employment ...

IF YOU ARE SO RICH AND SUCCESSFUL IN MC OCEAN LIKE WHAT YOU CLAIMED, WHY LEAVE???

The proof is in the pudding, no need further explanation.

Mc Ocean Official, why don't you come out and deny the 32% - 68% refund policy?
Guys, Mc Ocean will only return 32% from the sum you give back to them.
You have to chase the 68% from that amount from ALL your uplines if they don't have sales!
They never reveal this fact one.
If so good, why don't tell the truth?

they are still active again?

modus operandi sounds same as noousekin. going to share my experience here as well. i was roped in by a relative to attend a couple workshops and an event. this was way back when facebook popular n before everyone had a smart phone.

workshops were held at in a room at scott gardens. red flags sprang up immediately. overly friendly ppl in black jacket and tie coming to shake ur hand n get to know u and asking u what u want in life, basically trying to show that they are a family and truly care for others. some soft shilling of financial freedom, building ur own business, and team building sharing sessions for existing members.

personally, as someone who had low selfesteem n had difficulties making friends, the overly friendliness just felt off, but i can see how they ppl fall for this. next was the jackets n ties, msian office style is usually office casual, so to see these ppl, most who were working office jobs during the day and coming so well dressed at night every week for team building was another red flag. i was the only guy wearing slippers, shorts and a t shirt.

next was to shill the upcoming release of a revolutionary product. western white scientists at the hq had invented a new anti aging product, and that this was the right time to join. google searching this later returned nothing to support this claim, but i rmbr how they presented this as a great opportunity for newbies, that even the higher ranking ppl did not have it so easy as now. of course everytime, these members would be clapping and cheering almost on queue. lots of unnatural positive energy as well, every time someone would ask how they were, the answer would always be an enthusiastic 'fantastic'. it did not feel genuine.

i rmbr later sitting down with my relative asking him straight up how do we earn money? do we sell the products? or we hire ppl to sell for us? if the product is so good, why do we cold sell like door to door salesman, why does the company not just sell to pharmacies? how is this product different from the cheaper otc products? how is it we are we building our own business when we just peddling company overpriced products for some commission? i could never get a straight answer. it was beating around the bush.

next was the event held at a venue, i forget where it was ady, but relative paid for ticket. again, the whole thing felt unnatural, the dancing, the cheering, etc. and then the high ranking members sharing their rags to riches stories. how corporate life was stressful, mean bosses, never having enough money for self and parents, etc, but then after joining, life turned around, money rolling in big time. cruises, bungalows, lambos, vacations 2-3 times a year overseas. and got power point slide pictures of them and family vacationing somemore to drill in the point. just kek, but the worst offender was the background music playing during the presentation. sad music when explaining those times of distress, and happy music after. the whole thing just felt fake, but overall the presentation was very well put together and rehearsed.

thinking back, i feel kinda bad for those who really put in all that time and effort, and who truly believe that they were building their own business / brand.

also, that bs bill gates quote about how network marketing was the next big thing was always in the power point slides, but again a quick google search yielded nothing. and rich dad poor dad book was popular as well. dont know what is it these days, but last i heard, they were quoting jack ma.

also that singapore video song of how u can start a real business, but then ur employee will just start a new one to undercut u. this was to make a point that doing mlm was better than starting ur own business. if anyone has the link to that video pls do share here. the video portrayed an uncle starting his restaurant business , hires employees, then later the employee quits and opens up shop literally across the street.

This post has been edited by poooky: Jul 15 2022, 09:57 PM

same old bs as always.
when will they be erase off the market? so irritating.

Mc Ocean members playbook:

1) When at Mc Ocean Office premises, but keep smiling, greet and shake hands (or elbow bump) when see another member to drama to new prospects (victims) that Mc Ocean has a friendly & positive atmosphere.

2) Members must wear formal, make up, carry expensive handbags or accessories to show how rich and successful you are to new prospects (victims).

3) Introducers (the one who brought potential victims to scarm) must shout "CORRECT, BETUL, DUI!!!" during members sharing their sad made-up stories, during 1-to-1 Laptop Presentation, during training and during their Hotel Event. Reason is to herd the new victims into believing their lies.

4) Introducer must follow prospects (victim) wherever they go and watch whoever they talk to to ensure only "Positive" information are being said to them by the pre-arranged encounters (Yup, it is not COINCIDENTAL your friend just bumped into a so-called Millionaire out of the blue, IT WAS PRE-ARRANGED THAT HE WILL DO SHARING TO YOU.)

5) Introducer must tee up the next Sharer to make prospects (victims) think the next sharer is like a god and he is very lucky to be able to meet him. In reality, the sharer is just another MLM Salesman who is desperately trying to close sales because banks are chasing after him for late payments.

6) Knight Premier & Prince Premier position members are "encouraged" to loan a Mercedes/ BMW to CON-vince downlines to believe he/ she is earning very well. Earn RM 3K a month, RM 2K goes to pay Mercedes/ BMW 2 year plan, thats how GG these "leaders" are.

7) "Leaders" are to park their Mercedes or BMW in front of Mc Ocean Office so prospects (victims) think that Mc Ocean can really make alot of money. More than 10 years punya MLM, left less than 100 active members, what do you think?


For those readers who just went through the 1st Mc Ocean Office visitation, this info is for you.
DON'T BELIEVE THEM. IT IS ALL A DRAMA, FAKE ACTING to CON-vince you to apply a RM 35K bank loan to sign up as their Mobile Stockist.

how many rank of their premier - knight and prince only ?
i saw in their FB that many is getting award again, like its means nothing to reaches this honorary title.

HAHAHAHA!!! ZERO SALES KNIGHT PREMIERS also can get awarded as Top Knight Premiers? Wow how desperate Mc Ocean is now to try to recruit new victims

RM 200 per ticket, those FAKE SMILE Knight Premiers up on stage have to folk out their savings to buy the tickets upfront. Already no money but have to buy tables upfront, if no victims or downlines going, she can use the unsold tickets as toilet paper. Pitiful losers they are indeed.

Also, the low cost venue, boring in-house events, plastic trophies, product made bouquets & cheap buffet food DEFINITELY will not cost RM 200 per pax. I wonder in the end who pockets the balance? Hmmm...

Yup, such is the loser life of Mc Ocean Salesman and Saleswoman (don't care you are Gold Premier, Star Premier, Knight Premier, Prince Premier or Emperor Premier), all desperate to earn peanut income (assuming you are lucky enough to earn any) to pay the mountain of Bank Debts they accumulate because of joining this MLM.

Really best of luck to these losers if they could achieve any "success" through this dying MLM.

Rubbish event, waste my time and my money.

Bunch of people syiok sendiri. Stand, scream and clap hand non stop.

Repost to prevent some Mc Ocean dog from reporting and deleting post here.

GG

Such a joke.

Those memes didn't even mention any company and got taken down.
Does that mean the meme is actually telling the truth about that company?

If not, then why so aggressively wanted it to be taken down?
Heard of Innuendo? Innuendo is not a crime.
I thought that company got many professionals joined, how come no lawyers thought you people what is innuendo?

FUYOOOOOO..
Got event kah?

Any photo to see ar.....

Edited....just saw the photo here...
Walau leh....now going for Orange kita?


This post has been edited by MakNok: Sep 26 2022, 07:30 PM

I couldn't agree more!!!

The worst part of joining Mc Ocean RM 35,000 Mobile Stockist Plan is, not only you won't be rich, you ended up with a RM 60,000 Bank Loan to service (RM 1000 per Month for 5 years)

After your RM 35K bank loan is approved, the following month onwards and for the next 60 months, you have to pay bank RM 1,000 every month.

Mc Ocean members will say in the 1st month I already earned RM 5K or 6K. THAT'S JUST THE REBATE THEY RECEIVED FROM USING THE RM 35K LOAN TO BUY A HUGE PILE OF THEIR GARBAGE PRODUCTS, it's not earning. The rebate will cover 5 - 6 mths of your bank installment, what's next?

They will say, "you should have already recruited new members by now. 1 month recruit one new victim to get RM 35K is very easy!" If so easy, Mc Ocean should have millions of members nationwide by now, isn't it? They did bragged that Mc Ocean has more than 10 years in Malaysia.

HOW COME NUMBER OF ACTIVE MEMBERS IS ONLY JUST A FEW HUNDREDS LEFT AFTER BEEN IN MALAYSIA FOR SO LONG???

When the 6 mths grace period is over, what happens is you will find your Upline KP starts to change. They stopped being very caring, ignoring your messages or stop encouraging you through "positive" message/ calls anymore. Why? Because THEY DON"T HAVE TO REFUND YOU IF YOU QUIT THIS MLM ANYMORE.

As for those who lucky enough to find 1 or more gullible downlines, you probably will hear your upline KPs encourage you saying "don't give up, keep going out to prospect. You can pay off your RM 60K loan when your downlines start to have prospect themselves."

In theory, thats true. But in reality, NOT REALLY.

2 reason for this:

1) Every month, you can only earn 1 of the 2 Mc Ocean income, DIRECT INCOME or SPGB INCOME.

Direct Income = income you earn from you recruiting a downline under you
SPGB Income = income from your downlines recruiting new downlines (up to 10 Generations). But if you do not pay (2), you cannot earn this.

PS: Very different story from the last part of GES event/ 3rd stage, where some KP claimed that you can breakeven RM 60K within 1 year isn't it. Because if people finds out this part, they will realized how unrealistic and risky to sign up for the RM 35K loan!

2) 1800 BV or RM 1,900 Maintenance

In order for you to earn your downline's income, you need to pay RM 1,900 first. If not, your downline income will be earned by your upline (whoever that pays the RM 1900 maintenance). Is this flexible like what Mc Ocean presentation claime? Of Course! You don't pay, you don't earn, flexible right?

And if you are a KP position or higher, if you do not pay RM 1900 for 12 consecutive months, YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO YOUR QUARTERLY BONUS too.

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So before you give Mc Ocean the RM 35K bank draft/ transfer the money to their account, think for yourself. If you factor in these things, you will understand why so many members ended up bankrupted/ went under AKPK for debt restructuring. Its not because they are lazy or weak, like what your upline psycho you about them, its because IT WAS A TRAP RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.

I rest my case. Cheers!

Yalor @McOfficial, I very noob duno anything one, I'm just a small ex-KP anyway. But why you so long also cannot clarify this to us ya?

Also hor, your members practice telling new prospect to open all plastic cover to "check product quality", but like you said only can get refund for unopened, in marketable conditioned products, SO THAT MEANS PROSPECTS CAN GET 0% REFUND BASED ON YOUR CLARIFICATION RIGHT?

Looking forward to more of your clarification ya.

Thank you.

This post has been edited by Geek Goblin 123: Sep 29 2022, 04:42 PM

Here we go again.
The problem is NOT about being able to refund or not, rather, it's about what you will get after you refund.
Let me show you something.



This is the form you will get once you request for refund.
See anything strange?
Let me zoom into the picture a bit.



You need to CHASE the rest of the 68% of your 35k from your uplines!
I bet not a single soul tells you about this.