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post Aug 21 2018, 01:56 PM

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McOcean Event Warning......

In case you got invited :-

πŸ€πŸ₯‡πŸ”₯πŸ’ͺπŸ»πŸ€ΈπŸ»β€β™‚πŸ˜β€πŸŽ½πŸ‘ŸπŸ§¦

Hey Hey Hey!!
Let's take some time off THIS COMING 25TH AUGUST SATURDAY to distress, relax, and have fun as we will have an amazing and epic team game 😍😍😍 ENERZ CHALLENGE 😍😍😍

Do take this opportunity to invite your friends over to have fun and partners would love to talk and meet your friends 😍. It's gonna be super fun!

πŸ€πŸ€ΈπŸ»β€β™‚ENERZ CHALLENGEπŸ₯‡πŸ€

πŸ“† : 25/8/2018 (Saturday)
πŸ›: Enerz Indoor Extreme Park Subang
Waze: https://waze.com/ul/hw281rcgj9
⏰ : 10.00 A.M. - 4.00 P.M.
πŸ’° : Only RM88/pax
(Limit to 80pax.
First come first serve basis ❗❗)

Note :
1. Do come in sports attire and bring extra change of clothes.
2. Bring your own water for hydration

For sneak peek, please refer to
http://enerz.my/trampolines/

A smart businessman will always fully utilize the time. Let's challenge and complete together. JOM πŸ™‹πŸ»β€β™‚πŸ™‹β€β™€

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Do start inviting your friends πŸ“žπŸ“žπŸ“²πŸ“² and let's have fun together πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒ if you really want something, you ought to go all out! Sleep can wait, but loved ones ❀❀ can't. Time is precious πŸ•˜πŸ•‘πŸ•’πŸ•“πŸ•”πŸ••πŸ•–πŸ•—πŸ•˜πŸ•™πŸ•š

πŸ’˜Prospect
❌Do not know biz
βœ… Know biz
Geek Goblin 123
post Aug 21 2018, 02:14 PM

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[QUOTE]@Devilwearsprada22, as a trainer of LTT & 3D you do not get paid at all. Like in all events, the CKP and KP in charged (PICs) have to fork out their own money for EVERY expenses. Only stuffs for the events are claimable but always they ended up OVER BUDGET and they will ask you to consider it as a donation. I have so many bills that I could not claimed back since I was a CKP...

Funny how stingy they are when they are making RM 20k - 100k as they brag, but cannot even give me back a RM 100+ claim, isn't it?

Its like this, when you are good at a certain thing during an event, the PP will choose you to be the PIC of that thing forever. And he will choose you and set the date when you are the PIC without your consent. Talk about slavery...

As for major events like CNY, Hari Raya & Deepavali, all the product gifts are from our own. PP will force all KP and CKP to donate their products to become gifts to the public.

And then, the event flow never change and always THERE WILL BE ONE KP THAT HAVE TO DRESS AS THE BAPUK/ DRAG QUEEN to be emcee and he have to make himself very Slutty like a whore in front of hundreds of people. So shameful and debasing themselves like dogs trying to win the master's attention.

All the while when the PICs are running around to ensure everything goes smoothly, the PP will just sit back at the "Guest of Honor" table chating and laughing his head off.

Click the link below to check out the DRAG QUEEN KP (His name is Yu Jin) sell himself like a whore during the recent Hari Raya Event:

https://www.facebook.com/yujin02/videos/vb....2274573/?type=3
SHAME!


The Drag Queen, "KP" Yu Jin took down his FB video of himself... biggrin.gif

https://www.facebook.com/yujin02/videos/vb....2274573/?type=3

Too ashamed to show the WHOLE Malaysia what you are willing to do to make money in Mc-Ocean? icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif



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post Aug 21 2018, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(blueterry626 @ Aug 21 2018, 02:17 PM)
for me, I now enjoy my new job in bank
but still, some colleague who joined MLM trying to ask me to join
seem they duno they are making the boss of MLM company richer instead of themselves

one of my GP, who ad quitted, try to expose the scam tactics used by mcocean in Facebook and instagram
and now she is warned and threatened by those mcocean KP
those KP said will make police report and accuse her for sharing the false info

come on, y u mcocean ppl so scare people discuss u on internet? only those who had done something dirty scare to be exposed under the sun
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@blueterry626, wow your friend had a very bad experience in Mc-ocean.

Nevertheless, she did the right thing. The KPs are just afraid that her exposure will ended up to the right channels like KPDNKK.

If they have nothing to hide, why are they so afraid of being exposed, right?

Hmmm...
AntiScam
post Aug 21 2018, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(blueterry626 @ Aug 21 2018, 02:17 PM)
for me, I now enjoy my new job in bank
but still, some colleague who joined MLM trying to ask me to join
seem they duno they are making the boss of MLM company richer instead of themselves

one of my GP, who ad quitted, try to expose the scam tactics used by mcocean in Facebook and instagram
and now she is warned and threatened by those mcocean KP
those KP said will make police report and accuse her for sharing the false info

come on, y u mcocean ppl so scare people discuss u on internet? only those who had done something dirty scare to be exposed under the sun
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please let us share what she is sharing. We'll make it viral on social media. And I wish everyone here can go Google rate this bullshit. Gave them 1 star. I am planning to create a page on FB to show the people what is MC OCEAN!
luzdeexpo
post Aug 21 2018, 02:55 PM

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When you are a McOcean member,
you will be pressured to sacrifice your time to :-

i) Warm Up / Follow Up : -
Meet friends in your namelist and gather FORMHD.
Follow up is when you go back and try to con your friend you previously
approached either to join events or go for Team Party

ii) Support :
Come back to McOcean office to help out in
- Round Garden :Give tour to prospect tour around office and tell about products

iii) Training :
Attend training where they teach you to con people and continue to brainwash
you that McOcean is your only hope.
They will also ask you to bring products and consume there.


iv) Bridging :
Where you will bring your prospect for ABP with adviser, where
your job is to keep telling "CORRECT", "BETUL"
and your friend will be wondering, what the heck is wrong with you.

v) Team Party
You have to bring you friend for the interview by 3 members.
Even if you got nobody to bring, they will pressure you to come
and do sharing aka con the prospects brought by other members for team party.

Everyday, your KPs and CKPs will track your activity through a stupid template like this :-

🌟 Triumphant Tuesday 🌟
Date: 21/8/2018

πŸ‘­ Bridging
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🎀 Support
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πŸ“š Training
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🍜 Warmup/CPWU
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Off
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So kiss all your valuable time Good Bye when you join McOcean.
You will become a slave to KPs...
and they will say that is the secret to success in McO,
Surrender yourself to your KP.

They will want you to come back;
and feel the team aura as they want you to get continually brainwashed
and that only the McOcean ppl care about you....which is all bullshit;
as you are only a tool to bring in money.


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post Aug 21 2018, 02:59 PM

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post Aug 21 2018, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(AntiScam @ Aug 21 2018, 02:44 PM)
please let us share what she is sharing. We'll make it viral on social media. And I wish everyone here can go Google rate this bullshit. Gave them 1 star. I am planning to create a page on FB to show the people what is MC OCEAN!
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Great Idea thumbup.gif

We need to increase awareness, so that people will not fall into this trap !
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post Aug 21 2018, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(jeff182 @ Jul 12 2016, 12:39 PM)
Just sharing what I have shared previously.
luzdeexpo
post Aug 21 2018, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(jeff182 @ Aug 21 2018, 05:16 PM)
Just sharing what I have shared previously.
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Yup, that's the way McOcean operates doh.gif

Events, Ppl talking cock (making a lot of money)

Fancy nonsense term (network franchising, indirect sale)

These CKPs and KPs are trained very well to :-

- sow doubt into your mind
- break down your ability to think critically
(of course working world is not easy,
but they fail to highlight all the shortcomings with McOcean (Overpriced product, Maintenance, Events you have to pay for)

With all the people inside interacting with you during the events and at every stage;
they create a fake environment into fooling you that you can trust this people.

There will be a lot of fake promises,
like they will all be there for you and make sure you will be able to make back your RM35k.

Truth is...after you put down your money, you are screwed.
The first month they will try their best to help you so that you can bring in more people.

If you don't bring in people after 2 months,
they will deem you useless;
they will then use you (make you pay for events like MNU, become adviser for Round Garden, ABP and sharer for Team Party)

For those of you who just signed up as Star Premier,
Get out as soon as you can.
You will be able to get back some of your hard earned money.

If you choose to stay, thinking that this is the way to go,
Sad to say, you are wrong......I am speaking from personal experience as a ex-CKP.

Going down this path, you will have to :-
- cheat and con your friends/family members
- lose some of your close friends
- sacrifice your precious time with your true friends and family
- endure late nights which take a toll on your health

There is no such thing that
you will reach a point where you no longer need to do anything and money will just keep coming in.
If there is no recruitment in your network, your income is 0.

That is why a lot of KPs and CKPs go missing.
The business is not sustainable.

The KPs and PPs will go all out to have all kind of events and training,
Network Meetings, to spread "positivity" , "motivation";
which is all just bullshit.

They just want you to go and recruit more people;
so that they can continue making money using you.





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post Aug 21 2018, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(luzdeexpo @ Aug 21 2018, 06:10 PM)
Yup, that's the way McOcean operates  doh.gif

Events, Ppl talking cock (making a lot of money)

Fancy nonsense term (network franchising, indirect sale)

These CKPs and KPs are trained very well to :-

- sow doubt into your mind
- break down your ability to think critically
(of course working world is not easy,
but they fail to highlight all the shortcomings with McOcean (Overpriced product, Maintenance, Events you have to pay for)

With all the people inside interacting with you during the events and at every stage;
they create a fake environment into fooling you that you can trust this people.

There will be a lot of fake promises,
like they will all be there for you and make sure you will be able to make back your RM35k.

Truth is...after you put down your money, you are screwed.
The first month they will try their best to help you so that you can bring in more people.

If you don't bring in people after 2 months,
they will deem you useless;
they will then use you (make you pay for events like MNU, become adviser for Round Garden, ABP and sharer for Team Party)

For those of you who just signed up as Star Premier,
Get out as soon as you can.
You will be able to get back some of your hard earned money.

If you choose to stay, thinking that this is the way to go,
Sad to say, you are wrong......I am speaking from personal experience as a ex-CKP.

Going down this path, you will have to :-
- cheat and con your friends/family members
- lose some of your close friends
- sacrifice your precious time with your true friends and family
- endure late nights which take a toll on your health

There is no such thing that
you will reach a point where you no longer need to do anything and money will just keep coming in.
If there is no recruitment in your network, your income is 0.

That is why a lot of KPs and CKPs go missing.
The business is not sustainable.

The KPs and PPs will go all out to have all kind of events and training,
Network Meetings, to spread "positivity" , "motivation";
which is all just bullshit.

They just want you to go and recruit more people;
so that they can continue making money using you.
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Well said, @luzdeexpo! Totally agree with you! thumbup.gif
luzdeexpo
post Aug 24 2018, 02:22 PM

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Hi guys,
for the benefit of all,
I have received queries from people who recently attended MNU as follows:-

Hi I attended mnu..how can I know what u r saying is true??may I know who are the ckp and Kp who had gone missing? You are ckp already y did u leave? You covered ur capital...if u leave who is gonna help ur direct?isn't it supposed to be u suppose to help ur directs and so on so the whole thing is sustainable?really after 2 months they seen those who can't find anyone useless?

My reply as follows :-

Hi.
Yep, what I am saying is true based on my experience.
CKPs who went missing : CKP Brenda, CKP Eric, CKP Andrew
KPs who went missing : KP Joshua Thong, & quite a number of them in KP Om's network, KP Michelle

Yep, I manage to cover my capital.
I helped my directs by getting them to refund all their products and get some money back.
The ones who wanted to stay, I transferred them to another CKP.

Yes, they will view you as useless if you cannot bring anyone else in.
As McOcean relies 99% on recruitment.

Which is why PPs/KPs & CKPs will pressure you to go and warm-up;
Do namelisting, arrange appointment,
They will even take your phone, message your friends to help you make appointment;
if you are afraid to contact your friend.

You need to be very careful as you just attended the MNU;
They will be very desperate to get you to put down RM35k.

Don't fall for their fake promises and fake concern.
They do not really care about your dreams.

They will try all kind of way to con you,
to make you think it will be easy to get back your money.

Just ask yourself,
how will you feel to meet up and CONvince your friend or family members
to put down RM35k

It's a vicious cycle of getting people trapped.

They say that you will get a rebate RM5k;
which will be credited into your a/c 1 month later.
But if you cannot recruit anyone, you will be RM30K in debt anyways.

And when they tee-up people who claim they made RM6k in the first month;
It's highly likely the income is
RM5k (rebate) + RM1k from bringing in a GP.

They will ask you to show the rebate amount credited into your account
to your friends/ family ;
to con them that you are making money.

Truth is after that, if you do not continue to recruit, you will not earn any money.

THIS IS WHY THE BUSINESS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE

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post Aug 24 2018, 08:57 PM

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post Aug 24 2018, 09:02 PM

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To show you how desperate McOcean Members are
in using events to recruit people,
see the message which they blast to members, for that event :-

Dear all, in MC-Ocean this is not regular event. Something new to us & your friend.
This 25/8 EnerZ event will help u all in order to bridge on 2/Sept MNU!!
U can bridge more than one πŸ…Ώ in event.

Start T up & invite your friends now.

Fill up ur confirmed P so PIC can make the arrangement kπŸ‘


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post Aug 24 2018, 09:07 PM

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Congrats to Satish become pp already.
wondering why u claim a lot of kp is not active
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post Aug 24 2018, 11:20 PM

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have they already extended their network to singapore, or even china?

like much of the other money games and MLMs, once local market is saturated, and had gained enough of bad names, they will reach out to foreign markets
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post Aug 25 2018, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Aug 24 2018, 11:20 PM)
have they already extended their network to singapore, or even china?

like much of the other money games and MLMs, once local market is saturated, and had gained enough of bad names, they will reach out to foreign markets
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Yes they did. Mc-ocean started in Johor 10+ years ago and spreaded to Singapore. But in Singapore there is law against MLM, so they do direct selling/ retailing more there. Recruitment they will bring the victims all the way to their Johor HQ to be brainwashed.


As for China yea I am afraid this filth had reached there 3 years ago... They made an app for it. Basically their strategy there is to sell products through Wechat. Buyers rank up from GP all the way up through how much product him/her bought and how many new GP buyers is under him/ her.


SO beware of a company name "δΊΏδΈ‡θˆͺβ€œοΌŒ that is the Chinese name of Mc-Ocean.





"δΊΏδΈ‡θˆͺ, ιͺ—δΊΊδΈŠθˆΉγ€‚β€


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post Aug 25 2018, 03:40 PM

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Today they got activity in Atria mall?
Any field report later? brows.gif
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post Aug 25 2018, 10:56 PM

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what activity?
I only aware of sunway pyramid activity.

wat is the meaning of tee up?
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post Aug 27 2018, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(blueterry626 @ Aug 26 2018, 05:02 PM)
Some people here even congratz got member upgrade to PP ?

Wonder is he the spy of mcocean
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Just ignore that "senior member", I guess he just wants to increase the amount of his comments by spamming questions in a lot of topics here, what a full time lowyat forum-er, and look at all his Fancy starsssss! LOL.

This post has been edited by Mr.World Weary: Aug 27 2018, 11:01 AM
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post Aug 27 2018, 11:10 AM

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Wow! So much information, facts and sharing since I was away. Got quite a bit of reading to catch up with the chain of events.

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