By the way, can you guys don't keep mentioning the fast food brand here?
They have nothing to do with this business 😂

I agree.
As they seems like too calculative on money and then really is money saver type like that.

Exactly my thoughts as well, unless you guys are genuinely trolling Mc Ocean by being sarcastic.

Need to use dirty tactics to undertake dirt jobs.....use the rule of law to his advantage without getting his own hands dirty.

Ya, this kind of T&C no really tough. By those policy i almost think that it's not a scam. But fact is still fact.
Between, what i worry is there have any term inside form/contract that make us cannot claim back the money?
Since the refund will only cheque out at least 30 workdays, anything may happen in this long period..

Of course the founder known well, because he is the origin of all dirty in this company.
Yes separate into SD and McOcean just a tactic to make sure they are "legal" to continue operate, and maximize the protection to them.
If one day our authority take action to this company, by doing this way their high chance to escape from law punishment.

One always needs to read the fine prints and between the lines in any agreement as there are always hidden t&c which may catch us off guard.

haha this is a forum, where anyone and everyone can write anything, whether true or not.
what i wrote, is for you all to read only. whether true or not is up to you guys to decide.

That is what you call a cunning, shroud and ruthless businessman. Privileges that comes with the benefits of being on the top of the hierarchy/pyramid.

Let me guess, Dato'ship from Pahang? If yes, confirm title was bought with money.

Yes, Pahang Dato. He also buy Dato for his father as well.
Yess, difficult to sue them. My lawyer also told me, normally require minimum Rm 50K involved they will only accept the case. Else, you can't even pay the court fee.
So by this also shown that they are very sneaky. They don't even want touch the bottom line so that we have no chance to judge them.

First, you want try to use enemy rule to defend urself?
Second, actually most of time they didn't lie, they tell you the fact but just keep psycho you to choose the option their want you to choose.
In addition, if they do so, do you have any evidence? voice record? black & white? they won't let you take any piece of toilet paper as well.

No any other tnc.
But disclaimer included.
All calculation on stock return is just a draft calculation of Refund Amount. The actual amount shall subject to exact processing and calculation by HQ within 30 working days of products returned and received by company.

There is 10% admin charge on your purchased.
The rebate you received.
The so called bonus you received.
Those will be deducted.

Those so called bonus paid to your upline, including prince or anyone above you.
This only will give back to you if they have sales. The money is deducted from the sales of upline.

I think what you worry is the disclaimer part right?
I don't think I will get back my money fast.
And I might lost damn much!!!

I believe a lot people here also facing the same process.

So, you either continue or refund. That's it.

Once in the hole, everyone has to huddle together to stay afloat and alive. If the recruitment at the bottom stops, everyone will have no revenue to continue their so called lavish life style.

Yeah we really don't like them, and why did you answer your own question and you still questioning the friend with your question which u have already answered? LMAO.


WOW. what do you mean by "whatever he wrote wasn't his experience & statement"? He had just shared his experience, what are u trying to do here ?

all I see is you claiming every mcocean ugly truth sharers here are all haters, only b*tching and trashing here. Why dont u tell us which rank are u now in mcocean?

This post has been edited by Mr.World Weary: Aug 9 2018, 10:57 AM

Just because I'm trying to be neutral here means I have a rank? I just want to know if there's a way to close this company down.. but there's still no action or answer for that? Do you have a problem with the way I talk? And are you making it personal?

Not everybody likes to be claimed to be together with them you know?
Can I say that you are a spy too? Trying to bash here and get close to the other haters? How do you feel about that statement?

Go ahead see "Show posts by this member only" of you and me, ppl here can see the difference.
u sure u "trying" to be neutral? coz u memang offensive and that's the problem.




Owhhh again u mentioned "haters".

Offensive to who? You?
I know about show post.. This is not my first time using A Forum.
You have to know, you started accusing me?

So you want me to use "victims" instead? Poor poor souls?

And you avoided answering my question. Good job.

please share the tactic here so that the public will not fall into it

Stop this rubbish. What you're only trying to do here is basically create confusion. It's like telling people the house is on fire, then tell them it's just all just something that you felt like telling, and it's up to them to believe you or not.

What these disgusting people who doesn't have the balls do is basically giving a statement and tell others it may or may not be true, so that these thrash don't have to prove anything and be accountable when the time comes.

Imagine how the world would be if everyone is like that, teachers telling your kids that what they taught can be basically be lies, so it's up to them to believe. Everyone would just be sprouting no brainer statement and getting away with it just so with the statement "whether true or not is up to you guys to decide".

But then again, this is lowyat forum.

This post has been edited by BrosAndHoes: Aug 11 2018, 05:17 PM