If you wanna do it the honorable way, tell your upline that you want to terminate, but hold your ground when they try to ‘convince’ you to stay. They will get all their KPs and CKPs to talk you out of it as well. Don’t listen to them. Be polite and firmly tell them you just don’t want to waste your time/effort/energy/money doing something that you don’t enjoy. Usually that shuts them up (of course, they will still try to spin your words and cook up some bullshit about helping your family — essentially guilt-tripping you, but just stay firm on your decision).

If you don’t want to maintain any future good relationship with your upline (in case they’re assholes or something), then don’t tell them anything. Just go and terminate yourself.

Make sure your products are sealed and unopened when you return them. Terminating your McOcean account is actually very fast and easy. Takes only 30mins +. Don’t make any appointments with them, just call them asking if the service counter is open, and if it is, just show up at Southgate with your products, usually they’ll accept it. Oh yeah, ensure you come at a time where there aren’t a lot of people or trainings going on (they’ll just distract you and ask you uncomfortable questions, etc). The best time would be weekdays around 3pm - 5pm. No one will be around, so you can take your time.

Some warning — just because the website says that you can get back 90% of your money within the 1st month, doesn’t mean you will get them immediately. Like I said before, Mcocean will only refund you ~40% of your capital. You’ll get this amount fairly quickly. However, 60% of your capital went to your uplines’ salaries when you first joined the biz. To get that amount back, you’ll have to keep reminding them to return your money (aka constantly pressuring them). Or else, you won’t ever get that money back. It’s a lot of hassle for them, that’s why they’ll do anything to convince you to not terminate.

Sometimes people stay in the biz just coz they sympathize with their uplines (coz they’re family or close friends) — you know, the “takpe” mentality, but that isn’t the way to deal with it. You have every right to claim back your money, especially if you have been manipulated or persuaded into parting with your money through unscruplous means. RM35k is a LOT! Don’t take it lightly.

I’ve seen a lot of friendships and family relationships become strained because of this biz. Greed ruins everything, after all.

I also one of the victim of this MLM company, follow my friend and join to become their SP member. They will keep introduce other members to you and mentioned they are from which company (especially those from well know companies, doctor or lawyer) Then they ask me to attend various training in order to improve myself and pay advance ticket for the seminar which can CHANGE YOUR LIFE for the 'prospect' to attend it. This even makes me mentally and physically tired than my my own job.

I told my friend that i going to quit and went on my own to terminate for the membership. Still remember when I go to their office asking about the termination, one of the KP who used to be my up line has seen me but straight away ignore me and walk off. I also found out that KP already left this company too. 
Is was a painful experience for me and my friend left too.  I hope everyone be more careful if some of your friends SUDDENLY inviting you to join them as their 'Business Partner'.

You need to go South gate office and fix an appointment for you to return your stocks. Without appointment they will not entertain you.
Make sure all your unused products which you going to return still sealed in good condition.  Even some products they say is FREE during your purchased, you also have to return because is NOT FREE anymore when you want to terminate their membership.
Their staff will do a rough estimation of your refund and you just have to go back wait again for actual amount.
After that, they will issue cheque to you. Depends the money has collected from which up line and if that KP did not get any 'business', you might need to wait longer time to get your refund.

Hope it helps for you.

they have been brain washed.i was an ex lamp berger member b4...
the modus operandi of mc oceon is so similar to lamp berger.

What about the life's of those family and relationship's that they have broken? This doesn't give them the licence to play god. One hand claim to help but the other hand, scams. What kind of good does that do?

Yes, you will get back your money but still have to follow up just in case. No point to ask from your up line because they will not do that for you.
Have you use other products beside the water filter? 
Because the water filter cost you for few thousands plus if you have consume other products, the refund might be lesser.
How did you get your 35K?

No problem! This will be a lesson for us to learn.
You will see their 'support' the moment you join and they can get the money from you.

Oh without GST? So make sure you return all the products to them then.
Hope you can get back your money soon. 

Eh.. I recently saw newspaper and online news the police and government all the shut down a scam company..

How to get the police to shut down this company if it's that EVIL!

Can anybody advice?

Because it is MLM, based on pyramid model/scheme, always need to recruite and replenish the base to make sure it doesn't collapse. The newcomers will be the one's who will be feeding the top of the pyramid, the upline. So if you are one of those who joined early, you will be on the top of the pyramid, and make easy money from the downlines.

Hi everyone, I got family member who join this yesterday,
may I know if they plan to quit, the company will refund the
total amount to them?

Anyone experience before?

Thanks! 

Not smooth thou......
Will make it soon 👍

Around RM2k +

hi all,
I hope I found this forum earlier.

I withdrew this scam on April 2018
and I gotta bear the loss of bank interest nearly to 5k +++

my dream of buying the house shattered because of this McDonald...
The people inside is really EVIL...

Is there anyway to report them to the police and shut down their scam syndicate?

Not really tough tnc la.
Only 10% admin charge, not broken packaging, not expired.
And then they are very friendly.
And said it's very frequent got people refund, because company policy allow to do so.

You can always call the company to check it.

I am confused actually
The boss purposely separate the Mcocean and SD group?
so that only SD group is blacklisted?
but the boss should know very well his KP n CKPS is doing the dirty jobs

Let me guess, Dato'ship from Pahang? If yes, confirm title was bought with money.

Hey guys I found this:
https://www.mcocean.com/cn/policy7.jsp
according to the rules 6.4, the introducer should not use any cheating and lie to bring in new member 
so, is this a valid point to sue that group of people for keep lying?

Hi skava, point no. 5 by all means even if we didn't take half of the products we won't be getting any refunds if the period is more than 6 months? Sigh...

If you have the time, stay awhile and read my post…

I am one of those members who was so badly brainwashed by Mc-Ocean that I became their pawn for 2 years. I even achieve the status of KP, and then I quit because I finally wake up and see that everything was a COMPLETE LIE.

When you reached a higher rank like CKP and then KP, only then many things start to surface out. Then you realised that YOU GOT SCAMMED, BADLY! But it is too late to escape now with so many active downlines under you and when you are a fulltimer (you need your downline to make money to survive).

Some lies that you will not be told about Mc Ocean during the “3 Stages of Filtration Process”:

1. The interview (1st stage) is a complete BS! – 100 ppl who goes there, 100 of them are invited to the office to see the Marketing Plan. Why? Because the Uplines are always desperate for income, I mean seriously DESPERATE. Many KPs and PPs never make money for months straight.

2.  KPs make RM 20k – 100k every month, while PPs make RM 100k and above – This is the WORST lie I am forced to tell my downlines and others! Many KPs makes less than RM 20k every YEAR. Why? Read No. 5.

3. If No.2 is correct, why so many KPs and PPs are driving BMW and Mercedes? BECAUSE THOSE CARS ARE NOT THEIRS, BUT A RENTAL. They just renew their rental every year.

During KP meetings, KPs are constantly pressured by the Princes (No name mentioned, just know 1 is an Indian man and the other 1 is a arrogant Chinese, both names start with “S”) to rent a fancy car to make yourself look “RICH & SUCCESSFUL”, so SPs will aspire to recruit more downlines and then you can increase your Sales. 

4. A lot of KPs and CKPs and even PPs got to this position by buying SPs. Yes, I was 1 of them being conned by my upline to buy SPs to hit quota and get promoted. He told me that I should be KP fast by taking more Bank Loans and said that I can afford to pay them back with my RM 20k – 100k monthly income. In truth, your upline KP is even poorer than you, with hundred thousand to million ringgits of debts.

(Do not be deceived by the recent 2 PP that he is rich, both of them took out heavy loans to buy their KPs so they can be PPs) 

5. Hidden cost in this biz – This is very technical and only those who are SP and above will understand what I am saying. In short, for those that haven’t join this scam and planned to, DON’T, JUST DON’T.

If you have attended the final session of the 3rd stage (aka MNU), which is called Y33. They will show you a “Financial Planning” which show how by just recruiting 1 person every month you can make 5 Figure Income as a SP. Let me just be frank, this is a complete lie because:

a) There is a maintenance cost of RM 1900 every month as a SP. Yeah, Mc-ocean will say it is “flexible”. But if you want to make money from your downline’s Sales, you must pay it 1st from your Pocket. Lets say you make RM 3400 of SP Generation Bonus on the month of July, by 31st of July you must buy RM 1900 worth of products only can you get your RM 3400 on 15th of August every month. So minus all the cost you actually only make:

RM 3400 – RM 1900 + RM 532 (a little rebate from your SP’s 33% rebate) = RM 2032 only

Logically, can you survive with this income every month as a fulltimer?

b) You can EITHER make money from your RECRUITMENT OR SPGB, not BOTH. This is the biggest lie that your upline KP will NEVER tell you unless it happened, and you question them.

Yes, this is true. Yes, let’s say you recruited 1 friend as SP and your friend recruited 2 friends as SP:

What Mc-Ocean KP will tell you in MNU:

Your income = RM 4000 (from your recruitment) + 2x RM 1700 (from your friend’s 2 friend) = RM 7,400

What actually you make:

Since RM 4000 > 2x RM 1700.

Mc- Ocean will ONLY give you RM 4000.

So far from the RM 10k, 20k & even 50k that they portray to you.
c) SP Generation can only last for 5 generations, NOT 10 as what was presented – You can only earn from your 6th to 10th Generation’s income when you recruited your 6th SP. What the upline KPs always say is you only need to recruit 5 person and you can make “Passive Income” for the rest of your life is just nonsense. If so, why the KPs now are so desperately recruiting for themselves? No money mah…
 
I see the forum is only talking about victims of RM 2k or losing their RM 35k. This can talk down new people from joining Mc- Ocean but it cannot convince many existing SPs to stop what their doing. I hope this insight can share a new light to the darker places of Mc-Ocean. All these lies are always not told to you or even your friend who introduced this biz to you.

When you start questioning your uplines, only then that KP will reluctantly “REVEAL” these revelation to you…

I was one of those being lied to again and again by my upline KP, who used my Trust, my Hopes and Dreams as a weapon against to make me run this business and make them richer.

Because of Mc-Ocean, I am drowned in RM 100,000 worth of debts and I have lost so many of my friend's and family trust towards me… I hope this can help to convince you, say NO to Mc-Ocean!

I think we should expose them.

Showing the face in public will review the true identities scammer KP or PP, it is the right thing to do.

They, after all, are scamming people publicly and did claim themselves to be doing something righteous.

PLEASE REMOVE THE CENSORS AND REVIEW THESE LIAR PP & KP.