QUOTE(shootkk @ Aug 29 2012, 08:13 AM)
ieR : I agree but then again it's not everyday that masterpieces can be created. If masterpieces can come by so easily then they will not be masterpieces lor..Â
Sometimes you just want to take snapshots mah.
Anyway, my intention for posting was not to say snapshot or effort shot. It was to highlight that sometimes and I dare say that most of the time, people think that in order to create a masterpiece, all you need to do is to get your technical settings right. ISO, aperture, shutter speed, lights, leading lines, foreground, background and whatever else. I think that even if you have all your settings right, it will not bring you the masterpiece if you forgot the creative process behind your shot. If you do not have a reason as to why you want to make that shot or what you want to show, then I believe that the end result will still be lacking.
I don't know how else to put it. The reason behind your shot. Sometimes snapshots also can be very meaningful to certain people. It means something to them so that one shot becomes important. Like wedding shots - for any other people apart from the couple and their family members the shots are meaningless. For the couple however, they hold a special place in their hearts. When we shoot a wedding, we have to know this reason well. We should be shooting for the couple. We should be striving to get shots that means something to the couple. We should not be shooting for a perfect exposure with a balanced background and foreground elements and great use of leading lines. Even if we have those in a shot but it is devoid of emotions and/or meaning then it's useless for a couple. It becomes like an advertisement photo - nice to look at but not much to remember by.
Of course we should also try to get our shots to be perfect in terms of technical settings and composition but the most important point to a wedding shot is the memories that it will bring for the couple. That's the reason behind your shot.
That's what I'm getting at. The reason behind your shot. Before you even embark on a shoot, you should find that reason. When you have that in mind your shots will come out different. Too many people forget that and we end up with millions of shots that look similar but none that stands out. Do you agree?
hehehe i know ur intention... a little trolling, i guess is scared off a lot ppl...
ok turn on edpaul advise mode....
actually, when starting, everyone has the same feeling.. wanna show people what they saw. but they do not know how to 'tell' (composition) to bring out the main point (subject). slowly experimenting, experience is gain knowing which angle is good which is not.
slowly by time, people learn to capture with 'photography manner' and do whats good, less whats not that good. (again, i love to stress strongly, there is no right or wrong in photography, just how u interpret the point)
setting or spec are just 'solution' to '
get' a picture. ability to capture the piece of framed thing that show something.
composition is a hell of another level of thing. although 'setting' does play a role, but its so minor that neglect-able. because in the end, its about the picture as whole. (like how i posted in my fb, 'do u compare the photo by zooming in or zooming out')
(the elaboration of it was zooming in are pixel peeper worried bout noise level or sharpness of the picture (which all about settings), they will end up seeing only a narrow point of the image... while zoomed out comparison is talking bout the image as a Whole(compositon) where they learn what the whole image is about)
let me explain the element that made a photo that does not affect by camera setting, also the 5 element that gave 'points' to a photograph.
the 5 element to a photograph.1. Color.... everyone loves color... how interesting the color of the photo, how the color blends, the gradients, the softness or hardness of it. color also create moods (related to point5, emotion)...
2. Contrast... contrast tells the dramatics of the image. strong or soft. also toning which contribute to shapes and textures (point 3 and 4).
you May create a image with Zero Color (zero points from color, BW photos) but earn back the points from contrast...
3. Shape.... shape tells a solid subject. 'most' thing captured are with shape. the shape also play a roles in deciding the balance of the photo (leading line, abstract, positive vs negative space etc)
4. Texture... most thing has texture (i wont say
every because, there are abstract which is texture-less, like how i said "most" thing capture are with shape, there are shapeless thing like 'sea' but full of texture)
there are time u able to capture thing that is textureless, but able to pull color or contrast and shape to the fullest.
or there are time you will capture something that is shapeless, but relies on contrast in black and white photo (or color for color photo) to convey the message.
and all boils down to
5. emotion, which is the
Hardest to learn of them all. even i failed many times to create the emotion i seek!
there is 2 type....
sentimental emotion value, which is only "value" to the people involve... picture of your baby, to others, its just a baby, but to you, its someone relates to you, your baby. this is where the point where most ppl failed... like i mentioned, how people trying to show what they see, but did it wrongly, where it becomes a "snapshot" style. but to the people who snap them, they have a 'memory of the moment' hence they have to elaborate the feeling during the moment although just saw a snipe of the image. but others who werent there, will never able to feel that "memory of the moment".
non sentimental emotion value, which can be evolve to many sense... (mostly related back to the 5 sense)... a photo that give aroma(smell)... like a coffee with a really beautiful shape of the vapor coming from the cup... with dark texture beans around it.... even by imagine it, you'll somehow smell it although there arent coffee around. or sweetness (taste) of Ice Kacang... or element that build sense of touch, pointy sharp pins that by looking at it, you are already worried bout something that will poke your finger. and so on...
other emotion value including 'happiness, sadness, anger, surprises.... etc... but will these overrule the other 4 element to create a full 100 point image?.........
of all elements, emotion is still the hardest to master, this is also the most obvious scoring element, once u post a photo, how much it capture the eye of the viewer or how much people fall in love on first sight. (ehem, there is one emotion i left out is the horny emotion is which is another point scorer by posting 'sexy woman' photo where people fall in love on first sight lol!... which i dont really wanted to encourage too much because its kinda '
LOW' thing bout the new generation of photographer aiming. but please know how to differentiate
sexy and
beauty, there are subject that look sexy but actually its a beautiful element of shape and texture.)
you will notice that i may mention if you have missing one or more of the element, other element may make up to others. for example, your photo may be out of focus, destroying shapes element, broken contrast and texture due to slow shutter (blends all sort of colors), and its black and white (no points from color).... but you can score the "right feeling" emotion to 100 points. one element has the ability to overpower another. that is how you 'use' these element to your strength.
you could use the wrong iso, the wrong compo, the wrong shutter, the wrong focus, but just the right photo.
hence you will notice some people (or rude one like william) will scream at people go out to shoot more! because, the skill to control the elements do not come from the skill to control the setting. the chinese (china and taiwanese) love to write travel books, place they travel and food they eat along the way, they always manage not only capture the 'feel' of the journey but able to immerse the viewer feeling they were there. that is photography. not how sharp, not how accurate the color.
one of my favor photo of all time, which favor in emotion element, but score really low in other 4 elements.
here some reply/feedback i wanted from you guys.... what does the photo tells?
edit: the camera used is A850, with SAL50F1.4. exif F2, 1/5, iso1600. no flash fired. hand held, delay enough time to burn in the primary image before i move my camera to motion blur it. its skill where u shoot enough with the camera, u learn to count the timing(listening to shutter)... or say, u started to see thing slower and slower and slower... or your reaction get faster and faster
btw, i did over 100k shutter with this unit of A850 (leased from Sony....)
This post has been edited by ieR: Aug 29 2012, 04:20 PM 
Aug 23 2012, 05:20 PM
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) means our picture is like snapshot with compact camera also can do. so guys, if really wan get massive feedback like our sifu fansoption and ahpingko photo... then put more effort to create a masterpiece.
then what is the appropriate solution?
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