I find that this comment on Paultan is quite interesting, I thought that we paid a lot of tax money to own an imported car but...

http://paultan.org/2012/07/12/honda-civic-...rvice-interval/

With some googling I found the articles that mentioned about the local content for both cars:
http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/07/12/9th-gener...hed-in-malaysia
http://paultan.org/2010/10/14/proton-inspi...n-for-bookings/

This post has been edited by alg7_munif: Jul 12 2012, 11:31 PM

different level pls.....

All duped by toyota and honda. Lol.

unless proton rebadge civic..then u can get cheaper civic. honda already ckd their car long time ago in mlk. while inspira is 'new' to proton. so it takes time for proton to produce their own parts.

It is actually true on the local content parts. The more local content on the cars, the less excise duty you can get.

But we never know how much the local content on the cars, only manufacturer knows.

This is like an incentive via NAP to help local vendors and suppliers.

However, we don't actually see the benefit of having local content because automakers will keep the price as it is.

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Added on July 12, 2012, 11:44 pmCKD is one thing. We are talking on local contents, which parts is produce locally.

DSZ mention that the more local parts you have in a car, the less excise duty you will have. As low as 60% i guess. Compare to non local content CKD is 75% tax (for 1.8liter and below).

This post has been edited by ruffstuff: Jul 12 2012, 11:46 PM

From the CBT article:


This post has been edited by alg7_munif: Jul 12 2012, 11:59 PM

Huh?

Does this means Honda Civic can be sold for much lower... but Honda is trying to milk buyers for as much as possible and fool water-fish & fan-bois loyal supporters into paying premium?!

This post has been edited by MeToo: Jul 12 2012, 11:59 PM

Come on dude....

When the badge is P, the value and image gone. In this case, even worse, rebadge!

For Honda, it's carry the status. Even now u pull out statistic and compare, still.... Honda

Honda ftw. Maybe Toyota too.

Local contents are subjective. I can hire alot of local dead wood in the admin and management side to offset the local content production.

Do you need a PHD to brain ah?
It's nothing wrong. Premium is a standard. Price level the standard

So you knew this civic isn't worth that price tag, but because you thought the Honda is a premium, then you willing to overpay to Honda Malaysia?

No!!! It's worth! Don't get me wrong.

Have to look at whole package. It's civic afterall.

Yes bro.

IMHO, Honda anytime better image then those local cars or koreans. You can park Civic next to Audi and not feel shy, almost same status le.

If that image comes with a slight premium, so be it!

This post has been edited by MeToo: Jul 13 2012, 12:12 AM

can anyone tell me why versace clothes is so expensive? looks similar to my cheetah tshirt

mind him, that fella thinks this way...

paying premium = good quality product, plenty of respects instantly = value for money

you sure cheetah got your size ah??

u try park Proton cars beside civic.....see where those chicks walk to which direction... thats the premium u nd to pay man....
no money no chick ok?!?!

Oh my God ..

Are u guys insane?? Comparing honda to near junk??

Wake up dude.. Are u all still living in the 80's

and this is the reason y u dont buy cheetah shirt??

i buy hang ten geh.

That part of it!! U get the idea.

Same thing, the dash board material.
ProtOn, ppl will knock.

Honda? My hand not touching pun. No dash also nvm.

for honda use to lick to taste the taste of jepun?

you so cheap. go buy honda ex5 la.

I think the word smash is more correct term.

y everything also u must lick geh??

That's down to own preferences. I no comment on these. Sorry.

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Added on July 13, 2012, 12:26 amTo be honest: u been smoke by ex5. No?



This post has been edited by jnick: Jul 13 2012, 12:26 AM

my 10 year old Honda dash never once rattle... even until I sold it also no rattle!

my first honda.......ex5

my first lotus.......potong sawi.....kah kah kah

Honda Civic
2.0-litre SOHC i-VTEC engine (152 hp at 6,500 rpm and 190 Nm at 4,300 rpm)
RM130k

Proton Inspira
2.o-litre Mivec DOHC 16V engine (110 kW, 147.5PS at 6,000rpm and 195Nm at 4,250rpm)
RM95k
0-100km/h 10.5 second

This post has been edited by heavenly91: Jul 13 2012, 12:41 AM

bro, i feel u are heavily discriminate against my hobby.
what wrong?
i see good thing , i lick .

like some people straight , some people gay

please don discriminate gay too!

To TS:
Inspira more than a year on the road,

Shall wait new civic on the road for quality.

Hopefully after one year, u able to collect some review. Then u able to tell the price matching even is 60% local parts.

rubbish car. 110 hp. even myvi can smoke it anytime anywhere

Ermm.. Unker.. 110kW and 110hp is 2 different thing...
1hp = 0.746kW.. Unker..

so if HM violated this local content thing, then where is the transport minister?
or he is asking for report first then only go check?

people 91 u 82 u call people uncle ah.

Polite call unker lo.. Not polite.. SKL lo..

Dude.

You are in a car thread.

Pls learn to differentiate kW and PS

Inspira : 110kW ~ 150PS
Civic : 155PS

This post has been edited by MeToo: Jul 13 2012, 12:41 AM

nobody will interfere as long as the price is expensive....to protect proton and reap profit from public.

local content means more job for local which is great....

You got no money just can own a myvi so just stfu.
Nobody ask u to comment.

civic still win argue what...???

Sure Civic win lah bro... u cannot differentiate between Proton and Honda?

Who needs to even look at the car...

how mature.

Agree.. Tada duit dun talk kosong.. Bodoh punya turbo

that's my point exactly! you don't so so so-high teach any Tom-dIc&harry calculation la...at the end still Civic win, powderful leh

This post has been edited by SothysSaleShop: Jul 13 2012, 12:46 AM

+1

Agree!

He dont have the car he should just shut up and not comment about it!!








ps : Er bro... u have the 2012 Civic and Inspira.... right?

U fly to the moon is your problem. Please don't endanger our new civic!

you so sibuk for what? teach calculation also teach wrongly...go back college and learn back maths 101 la...people can read specs and can judge themselves, no need Professor MeToo to give lecture here...paper specs say civic win...mau argue apa lagi?

Shut Up la...

U lagi satu bodoh..

Honda vs JUnk.. Still need to read spec???

really? crape

diam la bodoh!

ppl work as mechanical engineer la.... nd u to teach him how to do calculation and read the spec ar???

diam la u all...
tomolo i go lick civic...
i only lick good thing

Dude,

As an Uniten student especially mechanical engineering somemore, you don't know the difference between kW and hp. I think you might as well go BA (admin) building and jump down. Or if you scared to low to jump, you can go Cendekiawan apartment and jump from there.

Mechanical student memper-sia-sui-kan Uniten name only.

Sincerely,
Uniten Alumni, BEE.

The level of this thread is x9999999

This post has been edited by Area51SE: Jul 13 2012, 02:22 AM

Funny lor, how 5% can make a big difference.

Lancer with 65% local content = Inspira = low quality local car
Civic with 60% local content = high quality imported car.

This post has been edited by alg7_munif: Jul 13 2012, 08:41 AM

told u MMU is better

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Added on July 13, 2012, 8:02 am



This post has been edited by turbocharged: Jul 13 2012, 08:02 AM

For ur info.. Till now inspalia production car.. Is only 25% local content.. Yeap 25%... I know some ppl qill ask.. How u know?? Mana sause kicap!!??
Juz cant review my sause kicap.. Take it or leave it..

Anyway. It sucks compare to civic..

proton targeting 65% of content....

but we know proton always failed to reach the target........

they cant even finish the first year stock.....

Morning TS, it's all about mentality.

As u can see, current inspira 25%, so what?
That's explained well.

who cares how many local content...
the most important is BRAND!!

Haha, there are always Japs Car, Korean Car, Conti car comparison threadssss... These are what people talks about, just go what is suit to u most. There is no right or wrong, just maybe a better choice.
Japs Car-Resale Value, Hiked up price
Msia Car-Good for budget, Low image
Korean Car-Feature wise, unproven long term quality
Conti car-Comfort wise, spare parts issue..

Alios

WAD! you mean 1 tire is malaysian tire while the other 3 are japanese tires!? WTF!!!

erm.. that is not what malaysian mine is ...

Japs Car = High Quality
Korean car = High Tech
Conti Car = Super High Quality
Malaysia Car = Junk


I think that sounds more correct

Its now called FB3 2.0

why are you selling junk accessories?

This post has been edited by hazremi: Jul 13 2012, 09:56 AM

must have some heated argument to make the forum lively!!

wait....what do i know.....i can only afford myvi

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Added on July 13, 2012, 9:57 amto con the smart guys

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Jul 13 2012, 09:57 AM

some ppl cannot afford Good cars .. will still buy cars..
i sell to earn some pocket money la!

u look down poor ppl isit ..

so if its a junk car means cannot mod/buy junk accessories for it ka????

Dam.. U mean u con poor ppl?
Poor ppl also u 1 2 con.... Pei Si u..

aah man, paying 30,000 more for Local made content? Not saying local parts are of poor quality, but its like paying for Italian bag made in China.

havent u heard, transport minister busy with www tender and increasing summon fine

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Added on July 13, 2012, 10:34 amno, u shud say, junk cars only need more spare parts and accessories to counter the inadequacy. More sales for u to do then. If the main product so good, no spoil in 5 years, spider web grow at ur ofis lor.

This post has been edited by K5WHITE: Jul 13 2012, 10:34 AM

+1

Honda I drive out I wont feel shy when pick up my GF!


Well, clearly if the car is junk, it needs a lot of replacement parts just to get it working no?

+ LIKE

Why din anyone mentioned about the Lancer here? Fully imported from Japan, cheaper then the Civic (performance on par?)
Civic > Lancer > Inspira?
I think the Lancer fits in that grey area.

the discussion is about local content...lancer is a different class, assembled by japanese and fitted with japan parts..if you dont believe, please ask the lancer owners..let the story you why their CBU car is far superior

This post has been edited by SothysSaleShop: Jul 13 2012, 10:45 AM

oh my bad hehe.... ya the lancer is a fun car to drive lovin' it.

Much better car then the fail copy Inspira for sure bro.

I heard the Lancer engine is different form Inspira?

Also Lancer have the famous RISE chassis/body that protects the occupant right? Doubt inspira have that.

inspira is 2mm shorter then lancer.. doubt it is a RISE chassis ..

on paper should be the same cos both MIVEC engine. Did not see Inspira advertise about it.. althought the Preve has RESS body..not sure its up to par with the RISE or not...

sorry off topic.

oi dont mislead people la

This post has been edited by habibz84: Jul 13 2012, 11:08 AM

add to that...

some people say just show car geran with "Lancer" word will have girls admire the car & easier to pick up

some people also say Lancer has soul, inspira soulless...

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Added on July 13, 2012, 11:09 amof course proton dare not advertise MIVEC...there is none

someone please show him the campro engine in the inspira.....

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Added on July 13, 2012, 11:10 ambro, do you have either lancer or inspira in your possession now? if you dont, you have no right to say people mislead, ok??

This post has been edited by SothysSaleShop: Jul 13 2012, 11:10 AM

like buying Iphone made in China?

Sorry Offtopic abit :

Do you mean to say Inspira is actually using Proton's RESS body just liek Preve?

So the Chassis/Body for Inspira is produced by Proton and not by Mitsu lah?

Oh since INspira didnt advertise MIVEC... looks suspicious bro... you think they are not using MIVEC and probably using CAMPRO instead? You know to save cost and get that 75% local content?

Cause impossible the car using same engine, same body, same transmission... and so much price difference right?

bro ... ur lancer mivec open at what rpm ?

haha 'open' at around 4500, can really feel the punch... off cos cannot compare to the EVO's MIVEC Turbo la lol

I drive old car.
But I still got gals sitting my car.
It is not about the car.
It is about you having face problem

Car is just a mode of transportation.
I don't give a shit about you stupid branding perception.
If you want to talk about cars.
Talk about facts.
Not rubbish nonsense thing come out from your thinking.
Show proof.

Dumb ppl.

Fact?

what???????

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2426259

I just checked....Inspira DID mention about MIVEC and RISE....looks like its from the Mitsu.

Price difference is tax issue...the Lancer cost around RM77k in Labuan haha

bought one ar? how much ar? can fit ar? (the gals, not the car)
you don't gip sh*t, so don't talk like sh*t to people lar
(*is the so sadding me i am know nothing about car.. aih~ must apply big big university so i can talk big big facts and small small nonsense.. is the sadding~)

Bro... heavenly91 just dont know the difference between kW and hp... its a common mistake lah bro...

Maybe he's a commerce guy liek me leh... how to know wor...

Its not like he have an engineering degreee la...

This post has been edited by MeToo: Jul 13 2012, 11:35 AM

sorry bro..I didnt say I am having issue picking up gals, i said some "people said"...even my kancil 660 also no problem for me...

uniten need to seriously teach their students how to read and calculate better...

you are not a graduate yet?

This post has been edited by SothysSaleShop: Jul 13 2012, 11:31 AM

You got no money just can own an old car so just stfu.
Nobody ask u to comment.

Get your facts right before u give any statement or even talk about facts.

ehhh .. i tot he got an inspira or civic 2012 ...
he told ppl driving myvi not to comment coz poor fag no money buy this car wor ...