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post Dec 3 2012, 08:34 AM

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If not tooo long, No problem, just start. Also depends what EO you use. better for storage, use mineral oil, because they stay on metal surface better than synthetics. During storage, the anti-oxidant will absorb the moisture and prevent rusting. After some time, change the EO also.

Petrol also, will absorb moisture and become dead. Open the tank, and smell a bit of it first. Very toxic, do not breathe in too much. Dead petrol will smell one kind one. It will be harder to run with this kind of petrol, better mix with fresh petrol as soon as you get the bike started and running.
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post Dec 3 2012, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Dec 3 2012, 08:34 AM)
If not tooo long, No problem, just start. Also depends what EO you use. better for storage, use mineral oil, because they stay on metal surface better than synthetics. During storage, the anti-oxidant will absorb the moisture and prevent rusting. After some time, change the EO also.

Petrol also, will absorb moisture and become dead. Open the tank, and smell a bit of it first. Very toxic, do not breathe in too much. Dead petrol will smell one kind one. It will be harder to run with this kind of petrol, better mix with fresh petrol as soon as you get the bike started and running.
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if around 1 years to 2?
btw 1 years no renew roadtax = nid go puspakom?
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post Dec 3 2012, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Dec 3 2012, 08:38 AM)
if around 1 years to 2?
btw 1 years no renew roadtax = nid go puspakom?
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aiya, yesterday nite 4get to check when is the roadtax expired. will let u know tonight.

i share some info on the journey to see the FZ150i last saturday:
I googled the location and it shows me 90km+ from cheras. So i guess i could reach there around 1hr 30mins. But the whole journey took 2hr and it is exhausting coz the way to the place is like a small town, the road with 2 lanes(1 up and 1 down) only and lots of big lorries.

After the exhausting journey i'm able to meet with the seller. Chat abit and start the bike, then test drive. Before this, i would like to clarify that the seller claimed that the bike is still original and it is 30k mileage now.
1) First impression after i start the bike: the engine sound is louder than small size bike like lc/lagenda. Not sure is it the engine not smooth or the original sound is like this.
2) During test drive: tho it is a 4t bike, but the power/ohm is there. i can really feel the power. But in short distance it is not as fast as my old RG. Have no chance to test high speed coz the area is not suitable for high speed as the road is short and quite a few bumps on it.
3) After test drive, i look around and check the bike: those metal parts and the bottom part of exchaust of the bike have very little rusty sign. Not sure is it the bike is parking at home for quite some time already. then i check the roadtax, it is expired on Nov 2012. The chain seems not well taken care of as i can see sands/dirts on the chain.
4) The rims have been changed to biggger size for stability(claimed by owner), front 2.5 and rear 3.5. Duro tyre at the front 80% new and Michelin 130/90 with 85% new for the rear tyre. Overall, i would say the bike looks bigger and tougher than normal FZ with small rim. The owner said the rims cause him 600+. The original will be given to me as well if i buy the bike.
5) The front lamp is changed to the head lamp which looks like naza blade 250n. the lamp looks still new and the original lamp will be given also.
6) The bottom fender of the bike is custom made one, it is hung by using the screw from the engine/gearbox(duno isit engine/gearbox) part. Not sure it will affect the bike or not if he did in this way?
7) Got quite some paint chips on the speedometer. Seems like he is not taken very good care of this bike.
8) The handle there got serious scratches, not sure is it dropped before. but the seller claim never drop and no accident before.

My problems are:
1) If the change ownership procedures are done by him, the charges is rm350(i dont have to go to jpj). But my friend tell me has to be very very careful with those kampung ones(no offence to everyone) and it is better to do it myself or let runner do it. So if i get a runner to do it, is it i have to get some forms for the seller to sign, get related docs, get the bike and the geran then pay him deposit?
2) then after ownership is transferred then only i paid the balance?
3) Is the sound of fz will be lounder than those smaller bike? coz i never heard of the other fz engine sound b4. planning to go to any motor shop to test 1.
4) I affraid i go there again and kena fkk coz on the same day i've made an appointment with another seller which is 15-20km from the same location. I'm able to contact the 2nd seller on my way to his place but when i reached and i called him. I guess he has off his phone! not able to call and sms him at all. vmad.gif haiz... My dad ask me to buy from shop coz it is more reliable and more convience with less hassles. But usually shops are selling for higher price.
5) During the appointment with the seller on last saturday, his offer is rm5000(bike) + rm350(ownership transfer) + (roadtax insurance) = around rm5700. We bargain very long and he refuse to give any discount, and keep saying"i tak kisah nak jual. u tak nak tak apa, boleh pergi tengok motor lain." He repeated at least 4-5 times during the whole appointment. My 'engine' is abit warm dy when he keep saying this. Then i tell him i'll think 1st. Later after i leave to meet the 2nd seller, he sms me and ask me what is my decision coz he wants to sell to other buyer. in my mind, 'sure he say like this coz he wants me to make quick decision'. Then he keeps sms me saying the thing. I juz replied him i need time to think. Later on the seller offer rm4700 for the bike and roadtax insurance, but i transfer the ownership myself. Overall the price is ok, i affraid he purposely make a fool of me and when i go there then he ffk.

This post has been edited by ken_ng: Dec 3 2012, 12:07 PM
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post Dec 3 2012, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Dec 3 2012, 11:54 AM)
aiya, yesterday nite 4get to check when is the roadtax expired. will let u know tonight.

i share some info on the journey to see the FZ150i last saturday:
I googled the location and it shows me 90km+ from cheras. So i guess i could reach there around 1hr 30mins. But the whole journey took 2hr and it is exhausting coz the way to the place is like a small town, the road with 2 lanes(1 up and 1 down) only and lots of big lorries.

After the exhausting journey i'm able to meet with the seller. Chat abit and start the bike, then test drive. Before this, i would like to clarify that the seller claimed that the bike is still original and it is 30k mileage now.
1) First impression after i start the bike: the engine sound is louder than small size bike like lc/lagenda. Not sure is it the engine not smooth or the original sound is like this.
2) During test drive: tho it is a 4t bike, but the power/ohm is there. i can really feel the power. But in short distance it is not as fast as my old RG. Have no chance to test high speed coz the area is not suitable for high speed as the road is short and quite a few bumps on it.
3) After test drive, i look around and check the bike: those metal parts and the bottom part of exchaust of the bike have very little rusty sign. Not sure is it the bike is parking at home for quite some time already. then i check the roadtax, it is expired on Nov 2012. The chain seems not well taken care of as i can see sands/dirts on the chain.
4) The rims have been changed to biggger size for stability(claimed by owner), front 2.5 and rear 3.5. Duro tyre at the front 80% new and Michelin 130/90 with 85% new for the rear tyre. Overall, i would say the bike looks bigger and tougher than normal FZ with small rim. The owner said the rims cause him 600+. The original will be given to me as well if i buy the bike.
5) The front lamp is changed to the head lamp which looks like naza blade 250n. the lamp looks still new and the original lamp will be given also.
6) The bottom fender of the bike is custom made one, it is hung by using the screw from the engine/gearbox(duno isit engine/gearbox) part. Not sure it will affect the bike or not if he did in this way?
7) Got quite some paint chips on the speedometer. Seems like he is not taken very good care of this bike.
8) The handle there got serious scratches, not sure is it dropped before. but the seller claim never drop and no accident before.

My problems are:
1) If the change ownership procedures are done by him, the charges is rm350(i dont have to go to jpj). But my friend tell me has to be very very careful with those kampung ones(no offence to everyone) and it is better to do it myself or let runner do it. So if i get a runner to do it, is it i have to get some forms for the seller to sign, get related docs, get the bike and the geran then pay him deposit?
2) then after ownership is transferred then only i paid the balance?
3) Is the sound of fz will be lounder than those smaller bike? coz i never heard of the other fz engine sound b4. planning to go to any motor shop to test 1.
4) I affraid i go there again and kena fkk coz on the same day i've made an appointment with another seller which is 15-20km from the same location. I'm able to contact the 2nd seller on my way to his place but when i reached and i called him. I guess he has off his phone! not able to call and sms him at all.  vmad.gif  haiz... My dad ask me to buy from shop coz it is more reliable and more convience with less hassles. But usually shops are selling for higher price.
5) During the appointment with the seller on last saturday, his offer is rm5000(bike) + rm350(ownership transfer) + (roadtax insurance) = around rm5700. We bargain very long and he refuse to give any discount, and keep saying"i tak kisah nak jual. u tak nak tak apa, boleh pergi tengok motor lain." He repeated at least 4-5 times during the whole appointment. My 'engine' is abit warm dy when he keep saying this. Then i tell him i'll think 1st. Later after i leave to meet the 2nd seller, he sms me and ask me what is my decision coz he wants to sell to other buyer. in my mind, 'sure he say like this coz he wants me to make quick decision'. Then he keeps sms me saying the thing. I juz replied him i need time to think. Later on the seller offer rm4700 for the bike and roadtax insurance, but i transfer the ownership myself. Overall the price is ok, i affraid he purposely make a fool of me and when i go there then he ffk.
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chg owner wont cost so high one la... 1k for owner ship ? my lc insurance buy 8k also 400 only max road tax rm2 , chg owner around 100~200 can settle
btw if the rg roadtax expired over 1year susah sikit cause nid masuk puspakom

btw of coz fz will louder a bit on pipe but duno how loud u say , old generation lc is really silence type that silence until cant hear the exhaust sound only chain
new lc chamber is bigger but 3 catalyst -.-""
not sure for fz but as i know fz engine like my lc engine a bit kasar after long run .. 30k km .. prepare fork out some money to repair the bike such as clutch plate , top set service etc ... check block and piston ring condition


but but 130/90 for rear tyre , comfirm he mod the engine before mang if the bike got the ohm.... my lc 100/70 also feel heavy already
nid check the engine condition like piston sound , engine got ding ding sound etc

This post has been edited by NoobboyZzZ: Dec 3 2012, 01:02 PM
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post Dec 3 2012, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Dec 3 2012, 12:57 PM)
chg owner wont cost so high one la... 1k for owner ship ? my lc insurance buy 8k also 400 only max road tax rm2 , chg owner around 100~200 can settle
btw if the rg roadtax expired over 1year susah sikit cause nid masuk puspakom

btw of coz fz will louder a bit on pipe but duno how loud u say , old generation lc is really silence type that silence until cant hear the exhaust sound only chain
new lc chamber is bigger but 3 catalyst -.-""
not sure for fz but as i know fz engine like my lc engine a bit kasar after long run .. 30k km .. prepare fork out some money to repair the bike such as clutch plate , top set service etc ... check block and piston ring condition
but but 130/90 for rear tyre , comfirm he mod the engine before mang  if the bike got the ohm.... my lc 100/70 also feel heavy already
nid check the engine condition like piston sound , engine got ding ding sound etc
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the exhaust sound shd be ok. But the engine sound is kasar, not as silent as those small bike. Not sure isit this bike is like this, gona go to some motorshop to test out.

oh, i have to prepare some $ for service/repair since the mileage is 30k km? so does it means 30k km is the time for 'renewal'?

he said he has friend which can do the ownership which i dont have to go to jpj but it costs rm350, not rm1k. but i think it's still high. tonight will go to motor shop to ask for the charges of ownership transfer. somemore, i think i better do it myself instead of letting him to do that coz i really affraid of any fake geran etc.

when i compare his bike with 130/90 to those stock 90/90, the bike is really looks like big bike. 100% looks bigger than the stock one. bout the power and engine, i'm not able to differenciate whether it has been mod before coz i don't know how to see but he told me it's all ori. but the ohm is really there.
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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Dec 3 2012, 02:10 PM)
the exhaust sound shd be ok. But the engine sound is kasar, not as silent as those small bike. Not sure isit this bike is like this, gona go to some motorshop to test out.

oh, i have to prepare some $ for service/repair since the mileage is 30k km? so does it means 30k km is the time for 'renewal'?

he said he has friend which can do the ownership which i dont have to go to jpj but it costs rm350, not rm1k. but i think it's still high. tonight will go to motor shop to ask for the charges of ownership transfer. somemore, i think i better do it myself instead of letting him to do that coz i really affraid of any fake geran etc.

when i compare his bike with 130/90 to those stock 90/90, the bike is really looks like big bike. 100% looks bigger than the stock one. bout the power and engine, i'm not able to differenciate whether it has been mod before coz i don't know how to see but he told me it's all ori. but the ohm is really there.
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fz gearbox is like that one , 1 2 and 3 got ohm but 4 and 5 no ohm anymore ... short ratio become long laugh.gif
like my lc 5 speed , but 130 really too big for fz shocking.gif
even cbr 250 alos use 130 only if no wrong blush.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Dec 3 2012, 07:09 PM)
fz gearbox is like that one , 1 2 and 3 got ohm but 4 and 5 no ohm anymore ... short ratio become long  laugh.gif
like my lc 5 speed , but 130 really too big for fz  shocking.gif
even cbr 250 alos use 130 only if no wrong  blush.gif
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ic. the later gear no ohm one..haha..

ya, it is 130 thats y it looks like big bike. I noticed that krr also using 130. the told me the front rim is 2.5 and back is 3.5. So what is the smallest size that 3.5 can fit? hehe.
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post Dec 4 2012, 07:17 AM

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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Dec 3 2012, 08:38 AM)
if around 1 years to 2?
btw 1 years no renew roadtax = nid go puspakom?
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Need to clean the carb and change petrol for sure, and check clutch plate and housing for rust before fully riding the bike, just in case. No need to operate, when change EO the time, take suluh and see inside, rotate kick starter to check la.
Need Puspakom.


Added on December 4, 2012, 7:31 am
QUOTE(ken_ng @ Dec 3 2012, 11:54 AM)
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1) FZ engine is louder, like got metal geser sound one.
3) Chain as long as got oil, is ok. A dry chain is worse.
4) What brand is the rim? Japan rims? How is the tyre sidewall, that can tell if he kaki leper or steady rider.
7) Speedometer front side kena batu is normal, unless is somewhere else, since it is naked bike.

Follow the change name process I told you. Don't pay money unless the bike is in your hands, follow by paperwork. No point getting paperwork done, and no bike.
RM350 a bit too much for the insurance and duit kopi if the seller do the change name on your behalf.

For nego price, don't bargain too long or ask too many times? If you ask 2-3 times, seller no nego price, can stop ady, don't waste your own time.
You would also angry if someone keep try to reduce price on something you wanna sell. When he say things like that, he is already not syiok liao.

If you don't want, just tell seller you don't want. If you are considering, tell him how many days you need.

Seller ffk is part of the problem trying to buy direct from seller, cannot complain la.
For FZ, check the CDI make sure is original one, and listen to the injector sound when you turn on the bike before you start engine.

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QUOTE(alexei @ Dec 4 2012, 07:17 AM)
Need to clean the carb and change petrol for sure, and check clutch plate and housing for rust before fully riding the bike, just in case. No need to operate, when change EO the time, take suluh and see inside, rotate kick starter to check la.
Need Puspakom.


Added on December 4, 2012, 7:31 am
1) FZ engine is louder, like got metal geser sound one.
3) Chain as long as got oil, is ok. A dry chain is worse.
4) What brand is the rim? Japan rims? How is the tyre sidewall, that can tell if he kaki leper or steady rider.
7) Speedometer front side kena batu is normal, unless is somewhere else, since it is naked bike.

Follow the change name process I told you. Don't pay money unless the bike is in your hands, follow by paperwork. No point getting paperwork done, and no bike.
RM350 a bit too much for the insurance and duit kopi if the seller do the change name on your behalf.

For nego price, don't bargain too long or ask too many times? If you ask 2-3 times, seller no nego price, can stop ady, don't waste your own time.
You would also angry if someone keep try to reduce price on something you wanna sell. When he say things like that, he is already not syiok liao.

If you don't want, just tell seller you don't want. If you are considering, tell him how many days you need.

Seller ffk is part of the problem trying to buy direct from seller, cannot complain la.
For FZ, check the CDI make sure is original one, and listen to the injector sound when you turn on the bike before you start engine.
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btw fz no cdi on ecu doh.gif
sure will check when cod-ing haha ... now nid cari 2 2nd tyre to get the bike laugh.gif
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post Dec 4 2012, 09:41 AM

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You getting the RG? Have fun with it.
Ok, ECU. blush.gif
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QUOTE(alexei @ Dec 4 2012, 09:41 AM)
You getting the RG? Have fun with it.
Ok, ECU. blush.gif
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yea , but i think nid spend few hundred to fix the bird to get it started laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alexei @ Dec 4 2012, 09:41 AM)
You getting the RG? Have fun with it.
Ok, ECU. blush.gif
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i got a honda hurricane 110 for 700 bucks. korek piston big big.
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QUOTE(crappy123 @ Dec 4 2012, 01:27 PM)
i got a honda hurricane 110 for 700 bucks. korek piston big big.
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lol honda hurricane the legendary naked bike blush.gif got clutch one?
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Dec 4 2012, 01:49 PM)
lol honda hurricane the legendary naked bike  blush.gif  got clutch one?
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unfortunately no.. riding position very low compared to lc. not comfortable.
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QUOTE(crappy123 @ Dec 4 2012, 01:51 PM)
unfortunately no.. riding position very low compared to lc. not comfortable.
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ride one before 120kmh max edi
but very syok riding , kepala very loose one sikit wrong at top speed bb
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Dec 4 2012, 02:46 PM)
ride one before 120kmh max edi
but very syok riding , kepala very loose one sikit wrong at top speed bb
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cruising around town ok la. long dst no no.. hands tired. racing with it is very nice.. superman
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QUOTE(crappy123 @ Dec 4 2012, 02:52 PM)
cruising around town ok la. long dst no no.. hands tired. racing with it is very nice.. superman
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yea , easy become superman one brows.gif but hand very tired after long run lai lai sell me cheap cheap also can drool.gif love the style not the engine whistling.gif


Added on December 5, 2012, 3:58 amfinish layan genting with melvin and 1 people , syok first time naik haha

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post Dec 5 2012, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Dec 4 2012, 10:21 AM)
yea , but i think nid spend few hundred to fix the bird to get it started  laugh.gif
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What not working?
I got an RGV, 6~8 years never start, spend RM10 clean the carb, then buy petrol, 4T, 2T... done.
Puspakom the time footrest fail, spend RM200 to buy original footrest.
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Dec 4 2012, 02:56 PM)
yea , easy become superman one  brows.gif  but hand very tired after long run lai lai sell me cheap cheap also can  drool.gif love the style not the engine  whistling.gif


Added on December 5, 2012, 3:58 amfinish layan genting with melvin and 1 people , syok first time naik haha
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the bike is in penang, u can tahan ride till kl? really for sale at my mechanic shop. want pic?
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1) yesterday chat around 20mins with another fz owner and made an appointment to meet up this saturday at bentong(another long journey for me). But today kena ffk again. haiz...no luck in getting a 2nd hand fz and not affordable for the new fz. may b i shd go to motorshop and get a 2nd hand fz directly from them instead of spending time waiting for ppl to sell their bike. besides, all the ownership transfer/insurance can be done easily if buy from shop. the reason i want to buy from private because shop's price is always higher. Oh ya, any1 knows how many yrs of warranty for yamaha bikes?

2) i also contacted a feb 2010 fz owner where the bike is 1st version. his bike mileage is less than 5k, rarely used. but his price is too high for a 2010 coz he's asking for 6k. i know the mileage is low but...then i tell him the truth where my budget is around rm5k and i ask him to think about it.

3) besides, also chat with a yr end 2009 kawa krr yesterday. mileage 9k+, all original but dropped once because of wet road. According to him, only coverset is affected, no damages/straches done on the body itself. roadtax and insurance expired Feb 2012 but the bike is still in running condition. he's looking for rm6.5k w/o insurance and i ask for rm6k. he replied will consider it if he didn't get better offer.

but i'm still considering want to take krr or not if he really offers me rm6k because krr is a hot target for thieves. and the parts are way more expensive than the fz.

those 2011 fz selling in shops are around rm6k+. if they are still under warranty from yamaha, do u guys think it's a good option to pay rm1k+ for the bike with warranty?

i'm really 'puncture' now. no more ohm...

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