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post Dec 5 2012, 04:00 PM

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Have you considered Belang? Why do you need another bike ah? 5k is a lot of money to spend leh. tongue.gif
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post Dec 5 2012, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Dec 5 2012, 04:00 PM)
Have you considered Belang? Why do you need another bike ah? 5k is a lot of money to spend leh. tongue.gif
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i never consider belang. But this bike did come to my mind but i dont like the appearance, rim, etc and it looks like the old school Hurricane tongue.gif it's too low for me.

the reason i need another bike is because i may use it for long term and might using for long distance also. Besides, i'm not sure do u notice that the bikes(fz/krr) i'm looking for are abit bigger in size compare to those lagenda/wave etc. i have a big body size thats y i choose bigger bike(not sure is this an excuse) biggrin.gif

i did looking around mudah for more than a month. i found that 5k can buy 2010 lc es(1st model) and 08/09/10(but rare) fz. but i prefer fz as it is bigger and fuel injection.

last time u mentioned that u are using a 2t bike, not sure u mind to tell what bike are u using?

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Dec 5 2012, 04:20 PM)
i never consider belang. But this bike did come to my mind but i dont like the appearance, rim, etc and it looks like the old school Hurricane  tongue.gif  it's too low for me.

the reason i need another bike is because i may use it for long term and might using for long distance also. Besides, i'm not sure do u notice that the bikes(fz/krr) i'm looking for are abit bigger in size compare to those lagenda/wave etc. i have a big body size thats y i choose bigger bike(not sure is this an excuse)  biggrin.gif

i did looking around mudah for more than a month. i found that 5k can buy 2010 lc es(1st model) and 08/09/10(but rare) fz. but i prefer fz as it is bigger and fuel injection.

last time u mentioned that u are using a 2t bike, not sure u mind to tell what bike are u using?
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he got tzm and rgv keeping in his garage brows.gif
btw try get find cbr150 also not a bad bike


Added on December 5, 2012, 11:10 pm
QUOTE(ken_ng @ Dec 5 2012, 02:14 PM)
1) yesterday chat around 20mins with another fz owner and made an appointment to meet up this saturday at bentong(another long journey for me). But today kena ffk again. haiz...no luck in getting a 2nd hand fz and not affordable for the new fz. may b i shd go to motorshop and get a 2nd hand fz directly from them instead of spending time waiting for ppl to sell their bike. besides, all the ownership transfer/insurance can be done easily if buy from shop. the reason i want to buy from private because shop's price is always higher. Oh ya, any1 knows how many yrs of warranty for yamaha bikes?

2) i also contacted a feb 2010 fz owner where the bike is 1st version. his bike mileage is less than 5k, rarely used. but his price is too high for a 2010 coz he's asking for 6k. i know the mileage is low but...then i tell him the truth where my budget is around rm5k and i ask him to think about it.

3) besides, also chat with a yr end 2009 kawa krr yesterday. mileage 9k+, all original but dropped once because of wet road. According to him, only coverset is affected, no damages/straches done on the body itself. roadtax and insurance expired Feb 2012 but the bike is still in running condition. he's looking for rm6.5k w/o insurance and i ask for rm6k. he replied will consider it if he didn't get better offer.

but i'm still considering want to take krr or not if he really offers me rm6k because krr is a hot target for thieves. and the parts are way more expensive than the fz.

those 2011 fz selling in shops are around rm6k+. if they are still under warranty from yamaha, do u guys think it's a good option to pay rm1k+ for the bike with warranty?

i'm really 'puncture' now. no more ohm...
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aiya ...buy from shop u try nego with them , say u ready cash already if wan sell then i buy terus no nid loan etc fast deal... chg name all let them handle for 250 around thr

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post Dec 6 2012, 03:00 AM

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post Dec 6 2012, 10:41 AM

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thanks for all the input. hmm, actually this is LC thread but i talk bout other bikes. Sry to all LC owners ya. But i guess we are welcome to talk about bike here because I dont find other topics which are active.

i've been asking for 3 first gen FZ too. they are having 5k, 9k and 20k mileage repesctively. The 9k one is sold and 20k one is booked, both of them are 2008. While the 5k one is registered in Feb 2010 and he's asking for rm6k(insurance expired) which i think the price is too high for the 2010 because the v2 FZ 2011 is selling around rm6k+ now. I told him honestly that my budget is rm5k and let him think bout it.

I contacted another FZ owner yesterday night and we'll meet up tonight. The bike is reg on min yr 2011, 5k mileage and everything in original condition. Cash price is rm6k(insurance till mid of 2013). At the same time while we are in communication, another buyer contacted him as well and that buyer offered the same price and wanted to meet up with him before my appointment.

Then i have to arrange my appointment with him before the other buyer. if d bike is ok, i'll pay him deposit tonight and then we'll go to jpj tmr to transfer the ownership. Balance will be paid after the ownership transfer and bike and geran will be given to me at the same time.

May i ask is there any things i must check carefully tonight? plz advice me. Besides, is it possible to check the engine number?

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post Dec 7 2012, 03:17 AM

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Yeah, ask owner to show you engine and chassis number.

Not sure location for engine/chassis number for FZ. Usually engine number is stamped on metal cover on right side, near kick starter, bring a torchlight. Chassis number is stamped on the side of steering cone.

Listen for engine sound when cold, and after warm up. Both engine temperature will hear different kind of noise. Usually just listen for wear and tear.

Make sure all plastic components are screwed nicely, that could tell any warping of engine chassis in case any history of drop/fall/accident. Mudguards should all be there... some seller pandai remove rear mudguard to make bike look sporty, and many buyers don't notice.

FZ stock rim is not designed for tubeless tyre, even though it is alloy rim... made in India, can consider upgrade.


Added on December 7, 2012, 3:19 amOpen coolant cover, bring a size 8 and 10 spanner. Make sure coolant is clean, check for oil and rust. Check swing arm for any goyang... etc.

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QUOTE(alexei @ Dec 7 2012, 03:17 AM)
Yeah, ask owner to show you engine and chassis number.

Not sure location for engine/chassis number for FZ. Usually engine number is stamped on metal cover on right side, near kick starter, bring a torchlight. Chassis number is stamped on the side of steering cone.

Listen for engine sound when cold, and after warm up. Both engine temperature will hear different kind of noise. Usually just listen for wear and tear.

Make sure all plastic components are screwed nicely, that could tell any warping of engine chassis in case any history of drop/fall/accident. Mudguards should all be there... some seller pandai remove rear mudguard to make bike look sporty, and many buyers don't notice.

FZ stock rim is not designed for tubeless tyre, even though it is alloy rim... made in India, can consider upgrade.


Added on December 7, 2012, 3:19 amOpen coolant cover, bring a size 8 and 10 spanner. Make sure coolant is clean, check for oil and rust. Check swing arm for any goyang... etc.
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fz rims cant support tubeless? looks like kayama sport rims. tzm rim also can fit into fz
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post Dec 7 2012, 11:48 AM

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I met with the fz owner yesterday. Before i meet with him, i went to hardware shops to find a good lock. According to the boss, he recommended Yale 60mm(gold body) or Yale(sth with boron material) than Solex. Coz he said quite a few customers told him those police recommend Yale lock to prevent the small thieves. The gold body is rm60, Boron is rm90, Solex(either 55mm or 60mm) is rm60. When i look at the locks, suddenly the lock at my house comes to my mind and i ask him "Do u have Viro lock?". He took a short while to look for it and he found it. The reason i ask for this lock is because it has been used in my house for 20yrs and it is still functions as good as a new one. Besides, it is Made In Italy and it is a 70mm lock. I think it is good enough for me at the moment. Then i ask him for steel chain but he don't have it. So i'll look stell chain in coming days.

Meet with the buyer. When I look at the bike, the first impression is "like new" brows.gif Look closely to every part of the bike, what i can say is "like new". It's a July 2010 bike and the mileage is around 4.4k now, front tyre 90/80, rear either 110 or 100(cant remember correctly) and both are Maxxis. The owner changed to these tyres when he bught the bike. The tyre looks 85-90% new. Chain and sprocket very clean, engine parts looks new, body looks new. What i can say is the bike is well maintained by the owner.

Time to test the bike. Start the bike using the electric starter, press the button and the bike is started immediately. So the battery shd be ok. Listen to the engine and it sounds the same with/without pressing the clutch, so clutch shd have no problem. Engine runs smooth and the sound is not as rough as the 1 i tested at kuala selangor. Put my hand at the back of the exhaust hole, the wind/air came out with lot of omph. It's powerful. Check the headlamp, tail lamp, signals and all indicators on the odometer. Everything is functuning. All the parts have no sign of rusty.

Ride on the bike, go straight, go round, turning, go through bumps, brakes, all runs well. Absobers and monoshock no weird sound when go through bumps. The only only problem is rear brake is not so 'tight', may b have to change the rear brake shoes. After some discussions, then i transfer rm500 to him through ATM to lock the deal as there is another buyer going to meet with him after my appoinement.

This morning went to JPJ, fill in forms, pay him RM500 in cash to gain his trust, buy new insurance(RM342) coz insurance is not trasferrable, transfer the ownership, go to Maybank near the JPJ and transfer the balance(RM5000) to him. While waiting for our turn, i chat with him. I ask him how much he bought this bike and he showed me all the receipts and i shocking.gif Bike(RM8k+), accessories(sampan, front absobers cover, rear tyre mudguard, helmat, alphinestar jacket, Maxxis tyres etc cost him RM1k+) shocking.gif After i transfer the balance to him, i pay him extra RM50 for teh tarik.

So i pay RM6000 + RM50 for:
- geran
- bike
- disc brake lock
- shoei helmat
- alphinestar jacket (never think that he'll give me the jacket)
- gloves (it's also and extra for me)

* The reason i'm so rush is because another buyer is eyeing on this bike and i dont want to miss such a good bike.

Ride the bike to office, lock the bike. So lucky that the Viro 70mm is just nice to fit the sprocket. I believe a 75mm cant fit in dy. Going to buy a steel chain and a Xena X2 disc lock. Xena X2 is selling for rm90 in ebay. Any1 know where can i buy a steel chain or steel cable with at least 15mm and above?

This is my experience with the FZ. Thank you.

This post has been edited by ken_ng: Dec 7 2012, 12:20 PM
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post Dec 7 2012, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Dec 7 2012, 11:48 AM)
I met with the fz owner yesterday. Before i meet with him, i went to hardware shops to find a good lock. According to the boss, he recommended Yale 60mm(gold body) or Yale(sth with boron material) than Solex. Coz he said quite a few customers told him those police recommend Yale lock to prevent the small thieves. The gold body is rm60, Boron is rm90, Solex(either 55mm or 60mm) is rm60. When i look at the locks, suddenly the lock at my house comes to my mind and i ask him "Do u have Viro lock?". He took a short while to look for it and he found it. The reason i ask for this lock is because it has been used in my house for 20yrs and it is still functions as good as a new one. Besides, it is Made In Italy and it is a 70mm lock. I think it is good enough for me at the moment. Then i ask him for steel chain but he don't have it. So i'll look stell chain in coming days.

Meet with the buyer. When I look at the bike, the first impression is "like new" brows.gif Look closely to every part of the bike, what i can say is "like new". It's a July 2010 bike and the mileage is around 4.4k now, front tyre 90/80, rear either 110 or 100(cant remember correctly) and both are Maxxis. The owner changed to these tyres when he bught the bike. The tyre looks 85-90% new. Chain and sprocket very clean, engine parts looks new, body looks new. What i can say is the bike is well maintained by the owner.

Time to test the bike. Start the bike using the electric starter, press the button and the bike is started immediately. So the battery shd be ok. Listen to the engine and it sounds the same with/without pressing the clutch, so clutch shd have no problem. Engine runs smooth and the sound is not as rough as the 1 i tested at kuala selangor. Put my hand at the back of the exhaust hole, the wind/air came out with lot of omph. It's powerful. Check the headlamp, tail lamp, signals and all indicators on the odometer. Everything is functuning. All the parts have no sign of rusty.

Ride on the bike, go straight, go round, turning, go through bumps, brakes, all runs well. Absobers and monoshock no weird sound when go through bumps. The only only problem is rear brake is not so 'tight', may b have to change the rear brake shoes. After some discussions, then i transfer rm500 to him through ATM to lock the deal as there is another buyer going to meet with him after my appoinement.

This morning went to JPJ, fill in forms, pay him RM500 in cash to gain his trust, buy new insurance(RM342) coz insurance is not trasferrable, transfer the ownership, go to Maybank near the JPJ and transfer the balance(RM5000) to him. While waiting for our turn, i chat with him. I ask him how much he bought this bike and he showed me all the receipts and i  shocking.gif  Bike(RM8k+), accessories(sampan, front absobers cover, rear tyre mudguard, helmat, alphinestar jacket, Maxxis tyres etc cost him RM1k+)  shocking.gif After i transfer the balance to him, i pay him extra RM50 for teh tarik.

So i pay RM6000 + RM50 for:
- geran
- bike
- disc brake lock
- shoei helmat
- alphinestar jacket (never think that he'll give me the jacket)
- gloves (it's also and extra for me)

* The reason i'm so rush is because another buyer is eyeing on this bike and i dont want to miss such a good bike.

Ride the bike to office, lock the bike. So lucky that the Viro 70mm is just nice to fit the sprocket. I believe a 75mm cant fit in dy. Going to buy a steel chain and a Xena X2 disc lock. Xena X2 is selling for rm90 in ebay. Any1 know where can i buy a steel chain or steel cable with at least 15mm and above?

This is my experience with the FZ. Thank you.
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bargain yo , clutch sound will come out soon dun worried laugh.gif maybe he ride so slow

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post Dec 7 2012, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Dec 7 2012, 11:48 AM)
This is my experience with the FZ. Thank you.
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Excellent sharing... thank you very much. You've been a good chat, and I certainly hope you will come by here often.
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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Dec 7 2012, 11:48 AM)
I met with the fz owner yesterday. Before i meet with him, i went to hardware shops to find a good lock. According to the boss, he recommended Yale 60mm(gold body) or Yale(sth with boron material) than Solex. Coz he said quite a few customers told him those police recommend Yale lock to prevent the small thieves. The gold body is rm60, Boron is rm90, Solex(either 55mm or 60mm) is rm60. When i look at the locks, suddenly the lock at my house comes to my mind and i ask him "Do u have Viro lock?". He took a short while to look for it and he found it. The reason i ask for this lock is because it has been used in my house for 20yrs and it is still functions as good as a new one. Besides, it is Made In Italy and it is a 70mm lock. I think it is good enough for me at the moment. Then i ask him for steel chain but he don't have it. So i'll look stell chain in coming days.

Meet with the buyer. When I look at the bike, the first impression is "like new" brows.gif Look closely to every part of the bike, what i can say is "like new". It's a July 2010 bike and the mileage is around 4.4k now, front tyre 90/80, rear either 110 or 100(cant remember correctly) and both are Maxxis. The owner changed to these tyres when he bught the bike. The tyre looks 85-90% new. Chain and sprocket very clean, engine parts looks new, body looks new. What i can say is the bike is well maintained by the owner.

Time to test the bike. Start the bike using the electric starter, press the button and the bike is started immediately. So the battery shd be ok. Listen to the engine and it sounds the same with/without pressing the clutch, so clutch shd have no problem. Engine runs smooth and the sound is not as rough as the 1 i tested at kuala selangor. Put my hand at the back of the exhaust hole, the wind/air came out with lot of omph. It's powerful. Check the headlamp, tail lamp, signals and all indicators on the odometer. Everything is functuning. All the parts have no sign of rusty.

Ride on the bike, go straight, go round, turning, go through bumps, brakes, all runs well. Absobers and monoshock no weird sound when go through bumps. The only only problem is rear brake is not so 'tight', may b have to change the rear brake shoes. After some discussions, then i transfer rm500 to him through ATM to lock the deal as there is another buyer going to meet with him after my appoinement.

This morning went to JPJ, fill in forms, pay him RM500 in cash to gain his trust, buy new insurance(RM342) coz insurance is not trasferrable, transfer the ownership, go to Maybank near the JPJ and transfer the balance(RM5000) to him. While waiting for our turn, i chat with him. I ask him how much he bought this bike and he showed me all the receipts and i  shocking.gif  Bike(RM8k+), accessories(sampan, front absobers cover, rear tyre mudguard, helmat, alphinestar jacket, Maxxis tyres etc cost him RM1k+)  shocking.gif After i transfer the balance to him, i pay him extra RM50 for teh tarik.

So i pay RM6000 + RM50 for:
- geran
- bike
- disc brake lock
- shoei helmat
- alphinestar jacket (never think that he'll give me the jacket)
- gloves (it's also and extra for me)

* The reason i'm so rush is because another buyer is eyeing on this bike and i dont want to miss such a good bike.

Ride the bike to office, lock the bike. So lucky that the Viro 70mm is just nice to fit the sprocket. I believe a 75mm cant fit in dy. Going to buy a steel chain and a Xena X2 disc lock. Xena X2 is selling for rm90 in ebay. Any1 know where can i buy a steel chain or steel cable with at least 15mm and above?

This is my experience with the FZ. Thank you.
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Come comment for you,

Dont bang any deep hole on road, will cause ur FORK bengkok..(FZ fock common problem)
Dont over rev the bike , will cause ur block calar and valve start got sound.
Dont Pump petrol when there is a lorry refill the petrol to underground reserve tank. Will cause ur FI sesak.
Dont Change ECU if you are using standard block.
Take care the OMRON Cell near your bike tail, kida expensive for those 6unit.
Dont try any Fuel cleaner / octane booster example : JTX, X1r. Will cause your EFI Spoil.

i love this bike FC biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(melvinho @ Dec 7 2012, 03:46 PM)
Come comment for you,

Dont bang any deep hole on road, will cause ur FORK bengkok..(FZ fock common problem)
Dont over rev the bike , will cause ur block calar and valve start got sound.
Dont Pump petrol when there is a lorry refill the petrol to underground reserve tank. Will cause ur FI sesak.
Dont Change ECU if you are using standard block.
Take care the OMRON Cell near your bike tail, kida expensive for those 6unit.
Dont try any Fuel cleaner / octane booster example : JTX, X1r. Will cause your EFI Spoil.

i love this bike FC biggrin.gif
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still a better bike the kips whistling.gif
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2nd hand tupai zek rm 5000... cry.gif
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post Dec 8 2012, 01:06 AM

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thanks for all the valueable information and i'll take note on all of them. I've check the rear tyre, it is a Maxxis Promaxx Street 110/80/17.

besides, i'm still looking for a 15mm above chain/cable. This one looks ok, around USD30.

Going to hardware shop to look around this weekend.

This post has been edited by ken_ng: Dec 8 2012, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(ken_ng @ Dec 8 2012, 01:06 AM)
thanks for all the valueable information and i'll take note on all of them. I've check the rear tyre, it is a Maxxis Promaxx Street 110/80/17.

besides, i'm still looking for a 15mm above chain/cable. This one looks ok, around USD30.

Going to hardware shop to look around this weekend.
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no nid lock so much la ... if thieve wan curi comfirm can la...
try xena lock like mine double metal plate one... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Itsuki_Kun @ Dec 8 2012, 12:50 AM)
2nd hand tupai zek rm 5000...  cry.gif
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i book one for 3.5k only. no sport rim pfe plate
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tupai zek asyik rosak powervalve x takut ke
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Dec 9 2012, 04:08 AM)
tupai zek asyik rosak powervalve x takut ke
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xtau lak tupai jek ada pv...
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QUOTE(NoobboyZzZ @ Dec 9 2012, 04:08 AM)
tupai zek asyik rosak powervalve x takut ke
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reed valve only.
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QUOTE(crappy123 @ Dec 8 2012, 11:32 PM)
i book one for 3.5k only. no sport rim pfe plate
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That mean still got cheapo price eh tupaizek lah..?
how about the condition..? I don't care about spoke rim or sport rim.. what I care the most is engine part and chasis part.. the rest can be re-build again..

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