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 Inverter vs Non Inverter Aircon ., Really save electricity ?

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post Jan 15 2015, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 03:18 AM)
day by day I found kimsim is dellusional
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post Jan 15 2015, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 03:18 AM)
day by day I found kimsim is dellusional
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Actually in m'sia all the mindset has been set for non-inverter like free of service & maintenance.

Even pay for slightly higher, can enjoy the comfort cold and quiet all the night is consider worth it.

In S'pore everyone without think so much and died died much go with inverter, cause due to higher electric bill here.. Also R22 model has been discontinued from last year.

So I dunno what's wrong here.

Since inverter got many benefit and just depend by you smile.gif
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post Jan 15 2015, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 15 2015, 07:21 AM)
Ignorance is bliss
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 15 2015, 09:04 AM)
You can't force people change their mindset. But you have to change yours. Cause you don't no what's wrong here.

An example is, Spore electrical bill is higher than here. Our bill here still got subsidies. Till the subsidies cut and the bill get high, people still can afford to pay.

You only can give advise and guidance. Accept or not, that is their choice. People don't like your dictator way.

Consumer purchasing driven by the cheapest cost. Only small % driven by technical. That is why China thing sell more than US. Even through US have better technology.
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Actually your comments I was agree with you

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In s'pore even more expansive than M'sia, here is high labour from installation cost.

One unit 1hp = 600-800 Sgd, but installation can be cost more than 500SGD.

That's why ppls go prefer inverter.


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post Jan 15 2015, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 15 2015, 09:18 AM)
Just understand more about the technical. You like to explain by "feeling". Where your feeling is 25c = 22c. That put experience people thinking you got problem.

People have thousand of reason of thinking. How many have you mastermind? That is why you keep on saying "dunno some, how they thinking"
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But once come to user,
Pre-set from non-inverter actually i need set from 23C and the cooling amount same with inverter unit from 25C.

If from inverter I set for 23C you may not sleep as well, the room feels like a winter

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post Jan 15 2015, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 15 2015, 09:28 AM)
It is not the temperature, but other reason. The people ontop already explain to you.

Beside temperature, there is this call humid which also influence your cool feeling.
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Ok then as a buyer

Would prefer better one or normal.

If pay the amount slightly same from the unit + install.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 15 2015, 09:40 AM)
Someone is just trying to take it as my new car travel at 100KM/h Can reach Ipoh in 60mins, while my old car travel at 110km/h only reach Ipoh in 70mins.. That justify the new are is better. Sound like it define physic right biggrin.gif

Not knowing what are the calibration used, is both using the same measurement tools? Even Speedo have variation.
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Well user fault right?

Even user from inverter unit still pre-set from 23c all the time right?

Just wish you good luck.
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post Jan 15 2015, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 15 2015, 09:58 AM)
What you don't understand is, most of the people are 1st buyer. Where they can understand the saving without the experience? Do you provide the number to prove to people? Where is your calculation saving? Do you have the pass and presence bill to prove?

I already start to use inverter aircon since 2007. Before way you promote the inverter here.  I understand the saving cause I change from non-inverter.
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Well

Any info or specs already wroted in website with photos too.

Also mentioned R410A gas higher pressure more 30% faster reached.

Actually talks in the end still an air conditional laugh.gif
Nowadays everyone can afford.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 15 2015, 10:23 AM)
Take it easy lah. You think all the people so clever meh.

Still got many people don't understand how the bill calculate. How you expect them to know this so technical?
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Hai talks easy meh..

I knew my bills was cheap, after switching to inverter.

Even my Aircon now just set for 26C with quiet fan, the cooling still very cold as what I needs.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 15 2015, 10:23 AM)
Take it easy lah. You think all the people so clever meh.

Still got many people don't understand how the bill calculate. How you expect them to know this so technical?
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Not.. Ppls still thinking buy the cheaper unit and used in short while.

Once that day, you can't without Aircon then just realise the bill why so expansive

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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 15 2015, 10:21 AM)
I will move around june...now downlight, fan will increase in price. Even water filter already increase on 1 jan.
Now been surveying aircond for my new house..if buy now, my warranty period will been shorten but might save extra few hundred if price increase after gst
Price increase + 6percent really  sweat.gif
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If you know the boss from electric shop or SengQ just buy before April and ask them delivery after 3 mths later.

Even furniture also the same
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 11:47 AM)
this is not hardwarezone.com la. share with malaysian context bro. inverter always be more expensive maintenance than non inverter especially for service too. R22 is cheaper than R410 freon
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Inverter or non-inverter also has PCB inside, once is spoil, you may consider for service.

Why inverter would be high maintenance?

Did you find out what an high?

Gas or what? One day R22 has been low stocks or shortage, from R22 gas dun think they won't increase the price in M'sia.

Whatever you pay is count by money from your salary and not for free guys.

Should concern more long term or long run smile.gif
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 11:49 AM)
how about mine using 1/2PK 320 watt daikin then change to inverter, will it be cheaper? thanks
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Not too sure about Daikin.

If I am in Kch sure I would go for Gree inverter thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 12:28 PM)
if got 1/2 PK inverter I will consider. you don't consider the high entry price of inverter rm 1k vs 2k? the 1k difference put on dividend shares 8% can cover your electricity bill liao  laugh.gif
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What is 1/2 PK?

Gree so much better
http://www.ktstrade.com.my/gree/gree.htm
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 04:21 PM)
1/2hp. gree china brand la. don't joke with me. spart part the easiest daikin and cheap too
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Much better than jap or local brand wow.

My wife kampung house installed it, 1.5hp Gree very very cold and come with LED display laugh.gif

The rest all ok, just the remote control need to improved.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 04:58 PM)
you know the drill right?

oops, not your wife but GRee with LED. i thought gree the minimum are 1800 watt? so expensive the electricity
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Gree 1.5hp = 12k BTU input watt just 1200w very normal from non-inverter Aircon.

If you saw their website for latest inverter 1hp just 645w and 1.5hp = 970w only

Damn energy saving
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Gree

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 05:27 PM)
thanks. how about the price? any 1/2hp? or 1hp can reduce since it's inverter?
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Here don't hsve WTK. In Kch or Sibu yes
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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Jan 15 2015, 06:27 PM)
hi guys, for inverter 2hp unit, which brand is better ? hitachi, daikin ga or mitsubishi?

tq
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Daikin or Pana also good.

Hitachi parts may expansive and not last.
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jan 15 2015, 06:40 PM)
Heard there are 2 Daikin's in the market now ? Daikin & Daikin GA ? Is that true ?  smile.gif
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http://www.daikin.com.my > all





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