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 Inverter vs Non Inverter Aircon ., Really save electricity ?

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post Jan 15 2015, 06:48 PM

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York sold to Daikin, also got reason lah, no point to paid USA york license again, also usd higher exchange rate now.
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jan 15 2015, 06:57 PM)
I believe the difference can be as high as RM400-500. and also apparently inverter has higher maintenance cost.
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Where you hear is higher maintenance?

I heard non-inverter months bill can easily over inverter 50% more..
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post Jan 15 2015, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 08:44 PM)
gree price is not cheaper than daikin or mitsubishi. duwan
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Seriously Gree = highend stuff?
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post Jan 15 2015, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Jan 15 2015, 08:52 PM)
I have both inverter and non inverter ac. Price wise, not much different. In circa RM200-300 for 1 Hp unit.

Maintenance cost similar. Serviced both. Same price. RM150 each for indoor unit dismantle and chemical cleaning.
Yup. I have independant power meter for each AC (inverter and non inverter) that both rated as 1HP that was installed on same size room. On average (daily use from 9pm to 6am), non inverter unit consumed 4 -  4.5 kw of electricity and for inverter unit, it just consume 1 - 1.5kw of electricity.
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Thanks your nice input, look like these is not 50% to be 80% more energy saving from inverter unit.
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post Jan 15 2015, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 08:47 PM)
rm200??show me lei..rm1k for mitsu electric and daikin
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Can check in Pana website non-inverter via inverter just slighly Rm200 different

If cash rich get any type of Aircon also don't mind.
Cause can afford TNB or Cesco Bills

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post Jan 15 2015, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 09:22 PM)
dun like pana. their non inverter very overpriced
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Daikin non-inverter R410a cooling King for my future consider also
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Jan 15 2015, 09:33 PM)
You can maximise the power saving by making sure there's no 'leak' from the room. Make sure all the windows tightly shut and use the door draft stopper like this http://www.amazon.com/Twin-Draft-Guard-Win...bs_3291684011_2

It really helps in the long run.

In my house, I have 3 1hp AC with daily use from 9pm to 6am. My electricity bill never goes beyond RM300.
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look like still more than mine in Jb home, I got 2.5hp turn on from 10am till night time 11pm, but on lunch time my wife go out has fetch both kids and switch off for less than a hour only, night time for 2 room, 1hp x 2 turn on from 9pm to 8am, my bill around Rm280, if used tumble dryer would excess over 300 to 350 between these.

Now my Sg home, 2x 1hp on from 9pm to 6am with 1.5hp turn on from 7pm to 11pm daily, also used heat pump + washer front load hot water sometime & dryer everyday, except for weekend we go back to JB.
My Bill was cock on 495Kw = 125.14 SGD

So in my experience of used, all switch to inverter then baru can save more energy.
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post Jan 15 2015, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 15 2015, 09:54 PM)
Inverter 1HP Rm1688
Non-inverter Rm1108

For non-inverter, the basic model is always preferred and always being used for the comparison in price.
I don't fancy those whatever plasma, nanoe, moving sensor etc.
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1.0HP Deluxe Non-Inverter Air Conditioner CS-V9RKH (CU-V9RKH)

Around Rm1400
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post Jan 15 2015, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 15 2015, 10:01 PM)
If just Rm200 difference, no point to get the non-inverter already.

As posted before, if want go for non-inverter, the basic model will do the job, aka Rm1108 only for basic model.
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Basic really vomit blood Leh..

That is why I avoid Pana aircon anymore
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post Jan 15 2015, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 15 2015, 10:10 PM)
Why vomit blood?
There are plenty of basic model being installed out there, particular in office environment as well.

My office installed several basic model, work for years, no issue at all.
But the one with so called plasma keep on act weirdly from time to time.
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Don't said lah, that is old story, if wanna buy non-inverter I always prefer York now = Daikin cooling King, faster cooling > branded.


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post Jan 16 2015, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Jan 16 2015, 01:21 AM)
Any one using this model... Mitsubishi Electric 1.0HP Air-Con SRK09CMP ? The Air-Con blower size is about 2/3 of normal size... 'nano air-con' hahahs... smile.gif Thinking of getting 3 units.

http://www.jintexelectronics.com/index.php...bcf1b775c7e909a
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Mitsubishi electric vs Mitsubishi heavy industry model both are different company, don't confused it
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 16 2015, 09:19 AM)
If you show us the setting, you also much show us the actual temperature in your room.

There is no point here by just said "still very cool". How cool is cool? I m fatty full of fat in my body. I won't feel cool. You are thinner. Of course you feel cooler. How to tell like that ?
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That is user faulty... No wonder you can't save much

Like a car cushion leather seat, fatty body can be boken the seat cover and blame to MFG design not up to quality

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post Jan 16 2015, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 16 2015, 09:33 AM)
What is user faulty?

For my bill saving, you're far away from me.
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Bill is depend on household and how many electric stuff are you usage per day.

At least wouldn't single unit only and the bill excess Rm150 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 16 2015, 09:49 AM)
Without knowing more and you blame user problem?
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As a MFG since they already meantion on over an Internet website.

25C as a guide line for you to saving energy, inverter was variable speed, even Increse or decrease one degree can tell that keep warm or cold.

From 25c to 24c pre-set from that outdoor fan motor will starter runs faster to meet up your pre-set.

If over setting like 23c or set to high fan speed from that computer would telling outside compressor & fan motor runs like jet high speed.

In this case set to 23c inverter outdoor unit already tell you that runs out over speed and does not meant you can save more.

From non-inverter were fixed speed they didn't tell, from starter runs in high speed till pre-set are reached and slow down or compressor cut-off.

But indoor how? Could you get the same cold air blowing out? Or warm air?
(Sensitive person will wakeup or suddenly what happening or blackout)

From inverter you would feels that cold air stopping blow out, but still maintenance the room temp, until the computer outside and indoor change then compressor start runs again, but that is called parts load from very minimum input watt load.

I dunno you guy how to in proper usage

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 16 2015, 09:50 AM)
No wonder you have difficult to understand the people here explain to you.

What I m telling you is, you show us the remote setting is useless without the actual room temperature. Everybody here cannot feel the cool as what you think is cool. You have to comeout a better prove beside the talking. Some measurement to verify the room coolness. Get it?

My bill never exceed even RM80. And much more lower.
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Ha ha like that just blame to Aircon specs not up to standard.

As a user many thusand reason laugh.gif

Anyway guru how you save?
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 16 2015, 10:54 AM)
What are you trying to say here I am lost? I am lost. Where is the guideline you mention? 25c sure use less energy, why not set it to 28c is even use less. This is because the differences between outdoor and indoor temperate are low.

Than again your claim of 25c is cooler than non-inverter 23c have no scientific proof. Unless you are using the same measurement equipment that are properly calibrated. Your statement inverter set temperate at 25c is coller than non-inverter 23c is like "my new Hybrid car reach my office travel at 70km/h reach office faster than my old petrol car travel at 80km/h."

Don't put claims you can't give justify. Especially with numbers.
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Cause you forget non-inverter gas claim on R22 slower 30% than R410A gas.
R410A claim on higher pressure = what faster right?

That is why never achieved in short while.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 16 2015, 11:08 AM)
Cherroy already explain to you la. You don't understand his explain is it?

This is not the Aircon problem.

Just use your way to save.
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Ha ha how much time you can wait from non-inverter temperature reaching?

From my previous usages was taken around 3 hours at least.


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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 16 2015, 11:14 AM)
That is only you.

My home office take about the same time as my master bedroom.
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Office who wanna bother?

Room more important as your sleep and comfort time.
Even one degree more warmer you would realise the overall room temperature are hot.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 16 2015, 11:19 AM)
Don't be selective reading. I wrote "Home office"
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Ya nothing wrong with you.

Anyway inverter or non-inverter is a big gap.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 16 2015, 11:24 AM)
I don't no and I don't care. I only ON my aircon once I go in to bed. And I fast go into sleep like a pig.
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Anyway if you not a sensitive air/noise wise... The basic model can be suit you well.

Just the bill different

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