i knw bt mine ver can watched all the vip one lol..all the good movies are in vip

Because you're bringing the Windows mentality if doing things when the Mac OSX workflow and common sense costs you less money and more efficiency?

There is a better way of doing things. And costs lest performance hits on your machine compared to the sloppy way of you doing it currently. Sure, I can get a message sent via snail mail/post but who does that anymore when it's more efficient to either just text, email or bloody voice-chat via teleconferencing?

You can get away with 8GB RAM without running VMWare Fusion and going via Bootcamp instead. The end result would be the same, you'd get the job done, but it's like you going to the supermarket on a noisy,gas-guzzling, smoke belching lorry, when you can do the same thing riding a Nissan Leaf or Prius without spending much and with improved fuel/cost efficiency.

By all means, do what you want. In the end, no specs will be enough for you coz you do things the inefficient way (More Ghz, more RAM,etc) instead if packing those work flow within efficient work cycle.

I learnt to do things "the hard way" too coz I'm taught the ways of Windows but when Apple provides better execution and efficient ways of doing things, I'm willing to learn those work flow and abandon the slow, clunky, inefficiency Window ways. I still use Windows for games though, coz in the flip-side of this, Windows does it better in gaming than Macs. Just don't bring the old Windows adage (more gigahertz, bigger the number the better) when using a Mac. We've moved beyond pure Ghz numbers in processors and gone into improving cite processor efficiency cycles at lower processor frequency.

I'm providing my own side of how I compute on my Mac. If you still want to carry on with that Windows adage, be my guest. *shrugs*

3. You can get away with 8GB RAM without running VMWare Fusion .....
so i will just restart my mac and boot into window just maybe to run 2 or 3 tools only? if like that there are more efficient and cost saving way, which is i just buy a cheap window pc enough, for wat i buy mbp ? the result sure wont be same because i can buy 5 to 6 cheapo laptop and play with them

I'm on your side this time.  For me, I'm that kind of person who can't stand people from using their MBP or their PC in an inefficient way. It is like you are buying a Ferrari but not driving it the Ferrari way.

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Added on July 3, 2012, 1:51 am

Be frank, my RMBP takes 15 seconds to go into Lion.
Though I never tried using windows on this machine. I bet the booting time should be around the same.
Boot windows natively will gives you more house power.
I try not to install windows in my RMBP.

If I need to work, I'll stop all my games and boot into windows and work.
When my stuff is done, I'll boot it back to my Lion.

Booting time is not a big issue in your RMBP right?
I bet booting into Lion and Windows are around the same time.
Should be 10-15 seconds.

why going the old way which doing bootcamp ?

it not the matter of boot time fast or slow, it is the matter that need to "reboot". let say i am using osx now for surfing and doing my stuff half way, then suddently i will need to use window to open some stuff or file only, maybe just to monitor somthing or test some application.. if i use bootcamp that means i have to reboot all my stuff which i doing halfway on the osx and go into window just click somthing then reboot back into osx... dont u think this is reli waste of time ? since vmware can do my stuff, why i need bootcamp anyway ?
anyway, it is somthing like i am using 90% osx (most of the time using osx) and 10% window only (just to test few application or open file).i dont see why i need going all the hassle way for me doing bootcamp =='. btw, one more important thing, my hdd drive is only 250gb, using vmware i only use 10gb of hdd space because i can share the drive wit OSX, if bootcamp, they are both completely isolate, means i will need to spare more space for my windows. lol

It is like you are buying a Ferrari, of course the ferrari can do more stuff, using VMware confirm is not a problem too, why going the old way which doing bootcamp ?

it not the matter of boot time fast or slow, it is the matter that need to "reboot". let say i am using osx now for surfing and doing my stuff half way, then suddently i will need to use window to open some stuff or file only, maybe just to monitor somthing or test some application.. if i use bootcamp that means i have to reboot all my stuff which i doing halfway on the osx and go into window just click somthing then reboot back into osx... dont u think this is reli waste of time ? since vmware can do my stuff, why i need bootcamp anyway ?
anyway, it is somthing like i am using 90% osx (most of the time using osx) and 10% window only (just to test few application or open file).i dont see why i need going all the hassle way for me doing bootcamp =='. btw, one more important thing, my hdd drive is only 250gb, using vmware i only use 10gb of hdd space because i can share the drive wit OSX, if bootcamp, they are both completely isolate, means i will need to spare more space for my windows. lol

It is like you are buying a Ferrari, of course the ferrari can do more stuff, using VMware confirm is not a problem too, why going the old way which doing bootcamp ?

i too understand that feeling cos DHL also like that ..zz
btw, i think for further discussing about the delivery and online store, we should continue here
or else later we will kena f**k haha

Because you're bringing the Windows mentality if doing things when the Mac OSX workflow and common sense costs you less money and more efficiency?

There is a better way of doing things. And costs lest performance hits on your machine compared to the sloppy way of you doing it currently. Sure, I can get a message sent via snail mail/post but who does that anymore when it's more efficient to either just text, email or bloody voice-chat via teleconferencing?

You can get away with 8GB RAM without running VMWare Fusion and going via Bootcamp instead. The end result would be the same, you'd get the job done, but it's like you going to the supermarket on a noisy,gas-guzzling, smoke belching lorry, when you can do the same thing riding a Nissan Leaf or Prius without spending much and with improved fuel/cost efficiency.

By all means, do what you want. In the end, no specs will be enough for you coz you do things the inefficient way (More Ghz, more RAM,etc) instead if packing those work flow within efficient work cycle.

I learnt to do things "the hard way" too coz I'm taught the ways of Windows but when Apple provides better execution and efficient ways of doing things, I'm willing to learn those work flow and abandon the slow, clunky, inefficiency Window ways. I still use Windows for games though, coz in the flip-side of this, Windows does it better in gaming than Macs. Just don't bring the old Windows adage (more gigahertz, bigger the number the better) when using a Mac. We've moved beyond pure Ghz numbers in processors and gone into improving cite processor efficiency cycles at lower processor frequency.

I'm providing my own side of how I compute on my Mac. If you still want to carry on with that Windows adage, be my guest. *shrugs*

am really new in mac, therefore 8GB ram is not necessary actually?
how its really work? thank you for replying =)

Anyone know which kl/selangor apple retail store sell retina macbook pro base with 16gb ram?

much appreciate

Oh boy, this function exists for a reason.



Well, if you think you can drive your Ferrari your way well enough. We'll just shut up.
After all, this is a forum to share ideas. The right way of using your Mac.
If you feel like you want to do it that way, be my guest.

Same mentality, when I go into "Does iPad able to replace laptop?" thread.
People are not using their device, the intended, designed, manufacturer way.
When this happens, they will complain. Complain that iPad can't do this or that.

The problem is that the iPad is not designed to be used this way.

In case you need the source, Click here.

Anyway, enough of this.

If you didn't know how this is started, refer to your post, the highlighted part.
People tell you nicely that there is a thread for ordering discussion repeatively and this is what you interpreted.

For god sakes , why do you even care how people are using? seriously , okay , you guys are really creepy

i probably should wait quietly for my mbpro to come and stay out from this forum

I'm on FishnCHipx side. Why waste time booting when you wanna work side by side with Windows. VMWare/Parallels is more efficient (copy & paste across, file transfers, etc) unless you wanna play games (then use Bootcamp). Plug into ext monitor, retina screen OSX, the other screen Windows, both running same time, 1 RMBP.

fishnchipx, your unit is buy from retail store or online store?

online store BTO

plan to go with your setup since I can't really change the ram.