because i not expert to solving these crash, first time using mac.. and not sure what to do.
what make u so concern ? do you know what job i am doing?
you can just post a reply to help or u may ignore too if u think u not sure what is happen also...
btw, 16gb ram is reli like dealing heavy professional workload ? lol

Clearly you came from the Windows camp. Mac OSX have not many cases of memory leakages or inefficient programs that requires 16GB RAM.

Tell me then what you do for a living. I shown previously that with 8GB RAM I've plenty to play with with regards to free RAM. You "claim" your virtualization/VM processes and Photoshop needs 16GB.

Your vocabulary and choice of words isn't helping your case either. You sound more more collegiate than anything remotely "professional".

And yes, keep those wonderful news of "my Apple order delays" on the correct thread, please. This isn't the first or the second time I'm telling you this. Don't want to kena f*ck, right?

Just got my RMBP and migrated my old macbook by using the time machine. Everything goes well and I'm very happy with the retina display.

I saw there is a Remote Disc under DEVICES, may i know what is that?

Just got my RMBP and migrated my old macbook by using the time machine. Everything goes well and I'm very happy with the retina display.

I saw there is a Remote Disc under DEVICES, may i know what is that?

Just got my RMBP and migrated my old macbook by using the time machine. Everything goes well and I'm very happy with the retina display.

I saw there is a Remote Disc under DEVICES, may i know what is that?

hey guys... what cooler pad you guys recommend i have to get for my rMBP? since the vent is at the back I thought of the Logitech N120 or cooler master notepal x3? any others that would suit well for the rMBP?

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Added on July 2, 2012, 6:38 pm
remote disc is a function to piggyback other computer optical drive

if you can live with the 8GB ram then go on, because i know that 8GB ram is not sufficient for me that why i getting the 16gb anyway, the application you use everyday is different from me and of course, 8GB is enough for normal use maybe if you dont photoshop alot and vm maybe ? and i never claim that i am "professional" but what makes u think i am ?  
nvm then if later it crash again, i will sure jot down any information there and we will discuss here ^^ seriously, newbie on mac is need alot advise from all the master and guru here like you

There are no "cooler pad" in the market that caters to MBP RD heat expulsion. Contrary to the common Windows laptop designs where majority is plasticky with vents in the bottom, MacBook aluminum unibody design makes use of the aluminum body itself as a heat sink. The ventilation vents are located on the display hinge. With this design, there are no cooler pads that can help this any more than it already has been done by the MacBook aluminum body design itself.

The best thing you can do is rest the MBP on a level surface, let it do its cooling job and if things get hot on the palm rest area, get Moshi Palm Rest Guard. Warning: since it will get hot, the palm guard will , in time, peel away.

There are no "cooler pad" in the market that caters to MBP RD heat expulsion. Contrary to the common Windows laptop designs where majority is plasticky with vents in the bottom, MacBook aluminum unibody design makes use of the aluminum body itself as a heat sink. The ventilation vents are located on the display hinge. With this design, there are no cooler pads that can help this any more than it already has been done by the MacBook aluminum body design itself.

The best thing you can do is rest the MBP on a level surface, let it do its cooling job and if things get hot on the palm rest area, get Moshi Palm Rest Guard. Warning: since it will get hot, the palm guard will , in time, peel away.

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Show me processes that you do that require 16GB of RAM, I'm just curious. Open up your apps and then run Activity Monitor and take a screenshot of it (Command-Shift-3) and I'd like too what processes you run that eats more than 8GB of RAM.

here is the screen shoot >.< this is my normal "open task" for everyday (except diablo 3 will always on awhile to auction house or play awhile when bored)



still have 4GB free

edit: sry forgot reduce the resolution just now.

While some of the kernel_task services will not unload when you quit the processes that have started them, others will, especially if they are managing hardware in the system. For instance, on systems with multiple GPUs, if you use the onboard GPU, then you will see an increase in RAM usage by the kernel_task, but unlike some applications services, if you switch graphics processing back to the dedicated GPU, then the kernel_task will relinquish the RAM it was using for video memory. Likewise, if you have activated your iSight camera with a program like Photo Booth, then the kernel_task will use another 8-10MB of RAM, which will be relinquished when Photo Booth is shut down.

Ultimately there is not much you can do to affect how kernel_task runs and manages the system. If you see the kernel_task process taking up a large amount of RAM on your system, there are a few options to reduce the RAM other than restarting your system. The first is to disable any hardware devices you may have attached to your system, such as external monitors, hard drives, or third-party audio or video interfaces. In addition, you can disable services like Wi-Fi and Bluetooth if you are not using them, and switch to using discrete graphics instead of the onboard GPU. The second thing you can do is quit programs and system services that use kernel extensions, such as the aforementioned Photo Booth, or graphics processing programs and games, especially if you are running with the integrated graphics card.

hey guys, im not sure which option I want.

1) I order a rMBP with student price and I can upgrade the ram from 8GB to 16GB but 26 July i'm going to kl to further my study, will it be enough time to reach here (sabah) ?

2) If I buy from KL apple retail store but no student price. Means no upgrade to 16GB ram.

Cant see shit, Captain.

EDIT: "kernel_task" isn't part of virtualization processes, it is because you are using too many external hardware devices. G35 headphones lah, G700 mouse lah, notebook cooler lah, external keyboard lah. With all these devices connected on your usage pattern, you're better off getting a Mac Mini instead of an MBP RD!
From this article: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20091...up-ram-in-os-x/

I can see some argument here. Anyway seeing the new RMBP having all parts non-upgradeable, its always wise to max out everything (if you can afford it). I also, will no hesitate to max out the ram if I'm buying one while the SSD upgrade is on other hand, way too expensive.
1) You better have someone to take the delivery on behalf just in case.

2) You can still buy online with student price, but having the address of delivery change to KL.

It's my first time staying in condo. I wonder where they will put my macbook pro if I'm not at home. Any idea? btw, I don't have car in KL. not so convenient. I called Taylor's Campus store but they say it will reach between 1-2 weeks, I think they just estimate. Not confirm.

hey guys, im not sure which option I want.

1) I order a rMBP with student price and I can upgrade the ram from 8GB to 16GB but 26 July i'm going to kl to further my study, will it be enough time to reach here (sabah) ?

2) If I buy from KL apple retail store but no student price. Means no upgrade to 16GB ram.

lol, instead of getting mac mini which i cant bring around, that y i just upgrade the ram to 16gb then problem solve ? 

Yes. Instead of turning the laptop form factor and use it with external keyboards, USB headsets, USB mouse and USB hubs dangling around?

I have never(or rarely) seen anyone (except those coming from Windows camp), that are fond with external peripherals. Did you read that "kernel_task" article I posted? You're adding unnecessary RAM allocation to peripherals you keep connected all the time.

As for the advice on maxing out RAM, it's a matter of looking at your usage + how long your hanging on to that Mac before reselling it. I never had a portable device longer than 12 months in my possession, AND fom my posted Activity Monitor screenshot, I KNOW my RAM allocation needs never exceeds 8GB RAM. Virtualization is a poor way of using dual OS, and is more of a stop-gap than a permanent solution. Boot camp utilizes all the resources available mended for multi-OSes without any detrimental effect on either OS.

er, why do you care how ppl use their laptop ? yes i am coming from windows so you are actually not happy with the way how i use mac    ? why you dont go youtube and post there "y u plug so many thunderbolt / hdmi monitor ? why you use bluetooth keyboard mouse etc etc ?
Anyway, that is my workstation which i can and i just like plug in anything i am comfortable with. as I said just now, 8GB for u is more then enough, maybe 4gb is too much for u too. lol 
I know what VMware fusion (only consume 1.5gb ram) can and cant do, do you think i will just sacrifice dual boot for nothing ? it just few stupid software / tools that i really need windows explorer or windows to run. for wat i doing dual boot ? ( i guess u will ask me what is the tools those rite ? i can only say that is our company own tools which only have window platform )
well, let get all this thing end here as i have choose the 16GB path and i know it is suit me more and also can remain all my workstation stuff w/o any changes except OS part, so what wrong with that ?

for 16gb ram, i can do more, because i already pay more. i m not budgeting to 8gb which going to be my rmbp a bottleneck on doing my stuff.