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SUSOptiplex330
post Jun 13 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 13 2012, 12:39 AM)
yes. due to constant engagement and disengagement, it will cause wear and tear like normal clutch also. Only the durability is longer than normal clutch since it is lubricated (wet).

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If that is the case, then it would not be advisable to keep it in "D" for too long because wet clutch is partly engaged. And apply more throttle when going uphill instead of creeping. Correct?

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post Jun 13 2012, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 13 2012, 12:42 AM)
If that is the case, then it would not be advisable to keep it in "D" for too long because wet clutch is partly engaged. And apply more throttle when going uphill instead of creeping. Correct?
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Yup for both. When idling, push it to N, especially during stopping on an uphill. If you notice closely, on N, the rpm will be higher than on D. According to kristof, this is due to the engine is running some sort of pump which aids cooling of the CVT. In fact, on uphill, if you dint apply any throttle at all, the car will jerk, lurched a bit and then vibrates a little as if macam mau mati engine. I always play that with my Saga... XD

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post Jun 13 2012, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 13 2012, 12:46 AM)
Yup for both. When idling, push it to N, especially during stopping on an uphill. If you notice closely, on N, the rpm will be higher than on D. According to kristof, this is due to the engine is running some sort of pump which aids cooling of the CVT. In fact, on uphill, if you dint apply any throttle at all, the car will jerk, lurched a bit and then vibrates a little as if macam mau mati engine. I always play that with my Saga... XD
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Yes, I have noticed that and put into N because of that at traffic light. Logic tells me that, if something is causing the rpm to go down, then there must be stress somewhere and stress can't be good.

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post Jun 13 2012, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 13 2012, 12:50 AM)
Yes, I have noticed that and put into N because of that at traffic light. Logic tells me that, if something is causing the rpm to go down, then there must be stress somewhere and stress can't be good.
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it's bad practise to put engine to D and apply brake at traffic light. just put it to N & brake.

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post Jun 13 2012, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(zaidi @ Jun 13 2012, 02:43 AM)
it's bad practise to put engine to D and apply brake at traffic light. just put it to N & brake.

btw add me to waiting list. cocoa-grey. been in waiting list since april, but no rush smile.gif
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From a 'wear & tear' point of view, I see no reason to do that. In normal AT. Putting it in "D" cause no increased wear because there are no clutch. Instead, constant shifting between D and N as you suggest will increase wear & tear as proven by the jerk when you do so every time.

But of course, from a safety point of view, I suppose you are right.


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post Jun 13 2012, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 13 2012, 06:40 AM)
From a 'wear & tear' point of view, I see no reason to do that. In normal AT. Putting it in "D" cause no increased wear because there are no clutch. Instead, constant shifting between D and N as you suggest will increase wear & tear as proven by the jerk when you do so every time.

But of course, from a safety point of view, I suppose you are right.
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in normal at, but in our eb ?
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post Jun 13 2012, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Jun 13 2012, 07:39 AM)
in normal at, but in our eb ?
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AFAIK, the best thing to remember is, just treat your EB more like a Manual Transmission. For example:
1. At idling, we do not want to put into gear and partially lift up the clutch. That is bad because it cause excessive clutch wear. With EB, just don't put it in D for too long at idle.

2. Going uphill. Likewise, we do not want to 'ride' a manual transmission for more power going uphill, instead increase throttle for more power instead. With EB, don't creep (this is akin to riding the MT) and instead, increase throttle.

Correct me if I am wrong.




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post Jun 13 2012, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 12 2012, 03:34 PM)
Many thanks.

For driving holiday, which would you recommend.
Drive from JB - Kuantan - Kuala Trengganu - Kota Baru
KL - Penang - Kota Baru - Kuantan - KL.
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i prefer pantai timur road...no toll...a lot of scenary along side the road...you can eat ana ikan bakar at kuantan...taste keropok lekor at marang...can stay at cherating...marang...mersing...pasir putih...there are lot stall along the route


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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 13 2012, 10:18 AM)
AFAIK, the best thing to remember is, just treat your EB more like a Manual Transmission. For example:
1. At idling, we do not want to put into gear and partially lift up the clutch. That is bad because it cause excessive clutch wear. With EB, just don't put it in D for too long at idle.

2. Going uphill. Likewise, we do not want to 'ride' a manual transmission for more power going uphill, instead increase throttle for more power instead. With EB, don't creep (this is akin to riding the MT) and instead, increase throttle.

Correct me if I am wrong.
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yes...treat you gearbox like manual...even auto it the same as manual...

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post Jun 13 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 13 2012, 12:11 AM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2262458/+60

you can even check out my review there...

I DIY myself on my car...
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tx for the info
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post Jun 13 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jun 13 2012, 10:37 AM)
tx for the info
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brotan, please share some picts after you are done insulating your eb tongue.gif
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post Jun 13 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Jun 13 2012, 11:23 AM)
brotan, please share some picts after you are done insulating your eb  tongue.gif
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if looks good, will share. if looks bad, sorry lah. hehe

btw, just booked 2 pcs from TS of this sound insulation. Wish me good luck thumbup.gif

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post Jun 13 2012, 01:53 PM

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wth, the chassis that i got was wrongly booked. it is already booked by other showroom for other customer vmad.gif vmad.gif
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post Jun 13 2012, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jun 13 2012, 01:53 PM)
wth, the chassis that i got was wrongly booked. it is already booked by other showroom for other customer  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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too bad..but i think silver queue wont be that long..
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post Jun 13 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Jun 13 2012, 01:55 PM)
too bad..but i think silver queue wont be that long..
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What color has the longest queue?

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post Jun 13 2012, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 13 2012, 02:35 PM)
What color has the longest queue?
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first it was elegant brown, now people are crazy about white rclxm9.gif
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post Jun 13 2012, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(doctor.AGF @ Jun 13 2012, 02:49 PM)
first it was elegant brown, now people are crazy about white  rclxm9.gif
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i think its still elegan brown..at least 1.5mths..red and silver can get within 2 weeks tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Jun 13 2012, 03:40 PM)
i think its still elegan brown..at least 1.5mths..red and silver can get within 2 weeks  tongue.gif
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they should change the name to gold lah. doesn't look brown at all
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post Jun 13 2012, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(doctor.AGF @ Jun 13 2012, 02:49 PM)
first it was elegant brown, now people are crazy about white  rclxm9.gif
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White difficult to maintain. With brown, less easy to see the dirt. So brown best for lazy people.

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 13 2012, 03:52 PM)
White difficult to maintain. With brown, less easy to see the dirt. So brown best for lazy people.
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100% agree..

but the prettiest for me is still solid white with dark gray rims..but wont go thru hell maintaining it
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post Jun 13 2012, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Jun 13 2012, 03:55 PM)
100% agree..

but the prettiest for me is still solid white with dark gray rims..but wont go thru hell maintaining it
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i wonder if repaint whole car how much? if already sien with the stock color, might want to change to dark gray

very classy

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