sorry to hear that bro

your wife didn't manage to get the plate no?

They will say you have "no class" driving a Proton.

Exora CFE specifies oil 10W30. It says nothing about 0W30 or 5W30. Does anyone know the exact technical reason for 10W30? Does CFE uses hydraulic-valve? If yes, is that the reason for only using 10w30?

Engine manufacturer don't simply recommend things. If it SPECIFICALLY says 10W30, it would mean that grade is best. Whereas for 10W40, you can also use but then it wouldn't be "best'.

For me, I just wanted to know the reason 'why'.

Yap. AFAIK, all 10W30 are Mineral Oil with most being API SL grade. Most Synthetic would be SM grade with lower ZDDP additives. I wondered whether that could be the reason. So until I know the reasons, I would also stick to Mineral 10W30 also, regardless of what SC said. For all I know, they couldn't be smarter than the engine manufacturer, could they?

ok. just come back from the Proton SC. well, this is my 2nd time service for my Exora Bold. and i had a very very bad experience with it.

I arrive SC at 11.15am. go to counter to enquiry. i told them i got bring my own engine oil. so the billing statement come out like this.

1 - X1R Engine Treatment - RM48.00
1 - X1R (P) Treatment - RM28.00
1 - Gasket Plug Oil Drain - RM3.32
1 - Oil Filter Campro Engine - RM12.22

i ask them do i really nd to buy engine treatment? they said every time service they will always suggest customer to buy. but i remember my 1st service dont hav pay for such thing. after comfirm, they ask me to be seat n wait. then i bring my son go watch astro then.

after long time waiting, my son's cartoon show already finish. i c the clock, its 12.00pm. i go check my car but still parking there, havent drive to the work bay yet. i go ask at counter how long i need to wait. then the servicer go ask mechanic. the mechanic quickly drive my car to service. (omg, isnt the mechanic jz reliaze my car have to service?)

another half an hour waiting. i go check my car. i saw them is pouring their engine oil. Its MACH 5 15W-40. i quickly tell them i got bring my own oil. they apologize to me, they said they didnt know, they jz work like normal. (omg again, they doing service without looking to the service order?? how terrible)

i continue ask them. normally, u guys should use semi oil, which is SYNTIUM 800 10W-40 for new car right? how come u use mineral oil for mine? they reply said, customer prefer this oil. (oh damn!) ok, since they already finish pour their oil. i think i will use it for another 3-4000km.

my car got a little problem, every time i hit a hole or drive at uneven road, they will always "eeegggrrrrrr" sound coming from back. i tell them to check my brake or abs. so they drive my car out. (i think they are going to hit the hole hardly this time, i suddenly feel regret to tell them the problem)

after 10 mins, they come back. they told me they got heard the sounds, it seems brake sound. so i ask them what to do? the machanic seems really donno wat to do. jz simply get the spanner, open my rear door. thighten some nut around there. then told me its done, jz go to pay at the counter. (WTF, dont u said its brake sound? what the hell u going to tighten the nut at back door??? wtfking sh*t)

after paid, leave there around 1pm. this 2nd service real sux.

actually wats is the X1R Engine Treatment and X1R (P) Treatment (i assume P means petrol) for? where they pour this staff to? the new car nd those thing?

the service booklet didnt record anything about using own oil.
the customer copy / receipt didnt show the item / price of engine oil.
the rest are same.

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From a 'wear & tear' point of view, I see no reason to do that. In normal AT. Putting it in "D" cause no increased wear because there are no clutch. Instead, constant shifting between D and N as you suggest will increase wear & tear as proven by the jerk when you do so every time.

But of course, from a safety point of view, I suppose you are right.

Cool down bro...I see in the manual proton do not say cannot use 5w* oil. There are quotes in to use 10-30w SL or higher API standard...so  choose oil with high API standard...SL,SM or else. On grade for malaysia weather better stick to XX30W use fully syn. Then can service after 10000km mileage. If semi service after 5000km. Up to you bro...

convert my lokatoo to papago... then