I thought this has already been established.

they did not fail to meet the requirement with spm....but their performance at the foundation.....

it is quite common for top spm students to falter at their pre-u level....and vice versa....

like i said, it is often a matter of motivation...many spm students peak at spm and burn out after that.....they think that getting a scholarship is the ultimate aim, and life is easy after that....

big mistake....

The non-academic criteria selection by JPA must be blamed.
Furthermore, if it's foundation that the students were put through and not edexel, it's more shameful.
Actually, I don't subscribe to the thinking that students who did not do well in SPM will do well in the pre-u. Those who succeed are more of exceptions; language based courses, creative arts or IT etc. Of course, some "smarties" who bloom later due to laziness or lack of focus.

let me qualify.....it is quite common for top spm students to stumble after....

it is possible for average spm students to shine in pre-u, but you are right, it's not common.....more of exceptions...

hey guys, for registration for fy1 in uk, as far as my understanding it is based on the points right? so i tried researching it and found out that any additional skills(i.e extra degree or research) you have would contribute to 7 points under education achievement. may i know is what i have stated here true?
could someone pls enlighten me as to how significant this 7 points can be? I am currently having a break of 6 months. I could actually either do an attachemnt or go on a research. Either way will be beneficial for me but the thing is i prefer doing attachment than research but if that 7 point is that significant i would rather go on to do research than attachment. what do you guys think?

that is correct...

however, for a 'research' to be given any value, it has to be published in an indexed publication...so some simple research done within 6 months is unlikely to be published......and thus of no value....

the 7 points is NOT vital, unless one is aiming to apply for an academic f1 post, or applying to a london deanery....

i would advise to take this 6 months to do something you like OUTSIDE medicine.....it will be the last long break in your life, till you retire....

sounds like heading for notts?.....

oh so the electives actually mean nothing?

damn should have just applied for 1 week project.... leave more time for vacation.

Looks like a pms situation?
Enforced vacation arising from matching.

electives is always part of the course syllabus, and does not contribute to the 7 points....

oh, then i must have been mistaken already
and i met pakistani who went to mount sinai for electives because he said that would look good on his CV.
also i saw ppl in US forums kept saying electives are importnat, get a good elective etc

maybe situation not same in msia

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Jun 25 2012, 08:25 PM

it is obviously different for each country...

for msia, electives count for a fat zero in value....

I just finished my electives, learnt a lot, so get a good elective.

gorilla where did u go for electives?mind to share? hehe tq

Browsing around youtube - I encountered an idiot trying to remove a post-auricular dermoid...




Made in Malaysia for sure~

http://youtu.be/LDo7Kw1Dhp4

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Jun 28 2012, 05:34 AM

Hi,

Curious.. does the 5 year MBBS or MD program include doing surgery in the OT? Or is that a specialist matter.

Thanks.

BS in MBBS is Bachelor of Surgery...

Hi and greetings,

Yeah.. I understand the BS part... but, how extensive the surgery will be? Would it be minor surgery like a 1/2 hour job taking a cyst out or those like open up the body into the heart, lungs or brain etc?

thanks for the clarification.

think you'll start off by just observing, or helping sometimes. but that's during the start of clinical years for me. Not sure how it is for other universities.

you will NOT be expected, nor allowed to perform any operations as a medical student ......you will have the opportunity to observe, and in the later years, scrub up and assist at operations.....

Just came across this, from Perdana's PDF brochure online:

"Students graduating from PU-RCSI are conferred with the primary medical degrees of the National University of Ireland (NUI), Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery and Bachelor in the Art of Obstetrics (MB,BCH,BAO).
In addition, they are awarded the historical licentiates of the Royal College of Physicians of Ireland (LRCP & SI.

The MB BCh BAO degrees are recognized by the Irish Medical Council, the Malaysian Medical Council and other regulatory bodies throughout the world. The degrees allow the holder to pursue postgraduate training worldwide."

Based on this representation, this would be the premier medical school in the country. Thoughts?

This post has been edited by podrunner: Jul 1 2012, 07:06 PM