Name :Bong tien loong 0166542802 this is the number. Try to escape this contractor. working slow and many excuse. 12 feet concrete table work around 1 week still havent done. Damn! !!!!

This post has been edited by chris5579: May 31 2012, 04:18 PM

i would suggest settle with him any payment issue and terminate this bad main contractor.

Haiz. ... Bad day. Thx for ur suggestion. Yes we settle with him already just replace anathe contractor. and just wanna sharing the bad thing. And let people know and beware.

Count yourself lucky. You paid him off. There have been cases encountered by other house owners where their contractor run off with their money without completing the work. Finally, the house owners have to spend more money to complete the job.

Not the worst lah... because
1. He did not take full payment and cabut
2. Threathen you for more money
3. Damage your things and deny responsibility.
- many worse case here in this forum.

Not only that...some cannot find other contractors to continue because noone want to get into troble with him or the work was so bad it has to be torn down and re-do or he has told everyone that you are the bad guy actually not paying him and want everything cheap cheap cheap and fast fast fast and contractors listen to contractors because they are of the same kind...hahahaha

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Added on June 1, 2012, 3:53 pmContractors are like that:

Stage one. Quotation. everything is possible whatever you want even discount. Very polite, very professional, amicable, call you often and when you call him for appointment, he will be there.

Stage 2: Once you agreed to give him the job. Before you get thing signed, cemnet, brick, wood, etc will be delivered to your house almost immediately. Signing can come later as far as they are concerned. No first payment deposit.

Stage 3. Commence work next day no delay whatsoever. Called you he has completed something and want you to verified if you are happy and if it is according to what you want. Want to make changes, no problem.

Stage 4. Tell you that you have not paid him the deposit, or no, it is he forgot to ask you for the money. You paid, work continue as you would like it to be.

Stage 5. You pay more money according to schedule

Stage 6.Disappered for few days, you called he comes and said need money just to buy material though that stage has not completed because just paid salary to workers, you pay otherwise no material how to continue?

Stage 7. All changes you request needed to be paid and no nego. You paid because you have no choice.

Stage 8. Disappear for days and you call will come next day but only for one day. You are stuck. Your weakness now show, you got no say and this is the time he make his demands. The table turned now against you. You have to pleased him otherwise he will work on other sites and your house has to wait, this include advance payment.

Stage 9: meeting his demand you house will be completed

Stage 10: you have an open house, the person you will not invite is your contractor who did the reno for you!!!!

This post has been edited by stevie8: Jun 1 2012, 03:53 PM

100% Support, my contractor also has the same behavior... really disappear for few days in the 50% stage and keep asking for payment but I told him that I will pay if he deliver according to the progress. But still, the job has been delayed for 3 weeks ++. Today, he promised will get it done by next week and return my key. Let's see ....

nice story but not all like this...
how about the contractor follow what owner want..
do tambah ini tambah itu without tambah cost to owner...
at last owner didnt pay as promised (contract) to the contractor..?

btw customers always right hahaha...

Customer don't always right., some like to pay 10, expect to get 20 worth of work. Some see the cost, but not the result but when the job don't satisfied argue and the other party fault.

My company is marketing major consumable brand, we have customer buy entry level camera, don't know how to take photo, blame the machine and ask for higher end model as replacement.

Do many funny customer.

We like to follow the bad way. 1 contractor success using this way, others will follow.

Hahahaha. That is only half of the story. We are all malaysian. We are of the same kind. Why would you want to be so nice to the owner tambah this tambah that without tambah cost? So you see it is dog eats dog world. People give you chance you take advantage, that is malaysian so how. This is call the fengshui wind taking turn to change direction. Feng shui lin lao chin.

At first the fengshui is with the owner. The owner is the king, want this want that for free, complaint about this complaint about that no so nice, not so smooth and the whole thing has to be taken out and re-do, for example. Voice also louder and must obey.

Then the fengshui started to change its direction reaching 50% of the job. Now, the contractor is the king. How could a king accept a new king when the expectation from the begining was so so high and now you have to be a servant!!!????

The moral of the story is Cheap things dont come good. Good things dont come cheap. Be reasonable. Why is china product is so superior in US and Europe like Hier for electronics? Why china products broken in a month in Malaysia? We are asking for too low a price and our importer friends are bringing in cheap dirt cheap products.

So chris5579, your contractor is considered good..

still good but not respondsibility and many excuse ...and build something not in my plan

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Added on June 2, 2012, 12:53 amya true .... alot of contractor cheating .but bad i facing 1 of them

This post has been edited by chris5579: Jun 2 2012, 12:53 AM

I would like to share my bad experience with this contractor recommended in this forum, named David Chow Yong Ee, from BELLWAY HOMES, based in Jalan PU 2/5, Puchong, Selangor. First of all, I'm not blaming you (if you are a real customer of his). Maybe he did a good job on you, but in my case, if anybody who reads this wants me to sum up him in one word, it would be IRRESPONSIBLE. I'm not being ill-hated or malicious by writing this statement, I'm just using my consumer power to stop irresponsible, reckless, unreliable and bogus contractor from having a place in our world.

So, let me tell a real, true story, experienced first hand by myself as an owner of my house and as his customer.

I just moved into a 20x60 house. Not that big. I wanted all my parquets in my house to be replaced with tiles. So I called him up some time in April 2012, and the rate he agreed to give me was RM4.50/sqft. Based on 557 sqft, the charge was RM2,500. On top of that, I would like the floor tiles of my 2 bathrooms (much less than 200 sqft) to be replaced with new tiles. The charge was RM1,600, inclusive of installation of water basin and toilet bowl. All the charges include workmanship, but excluding tiles, water basin and toilet bowl, which I wanted to buy on my own.

Before his guys started working, he (David Chow) told me that the work could be finished in 1 week. Of course I don't trust any word from a person I barely know, so I predicted it could be in between 7-8 days to complete. The work was done by two (2) Indonesians from Jawa Timur, not David. I suspected they are just 19 or 20 or even younger. The work was done every day by those 2 guys, except 2 or 3 days when only 1 worker (named Amin from Sulawesi) did the job. The reason was the 2 guys who were supposed to do the job were not fed by their employers. I was told by them sometimes they were not even paid. So I believe they retaliated by not coming to work. Fortunately I didn't just sit there and let them starve. How do you expect 2 guys not properly taken care of do their work?

After 8 days passed by, the work was still not completed. I called up this David guy every day, and every time we engaged in a conversation, he assured me that the work can be completed today. Today and today and today for the next 4 days. Obviously this young guy didn't know what he was talking about. The work was completed on the 13th day.

Regarding the quality of the work, I would rate 5 in a scale of 1 to 10. After the work was completed, they were still small holes between two tiles. So I asked them to put cement (or whatever it is called). OK, the job was done. But now, the holes seem to reappear again. So I guess the workmanship is not that good, flawed to its best. Not to mention that now they are hairline cracks on the skirting of the wall that they put up.

The most pathetic part is this. After installing the toilet bowl, the water flow to the manhole seemed to be clogged. So the Amin guy took it out, scooped the things he could find in the pipe with his bare hands and found some algae, and re-install the toilet bowl again. It seemed it was OK after several flushings. About less than a month later, the toilet bowl began to clogged up again. Water can be seen exiting through the base of the bowl (the one that connects the bowl and the floor) when it was flushed. Water also rose up when it was flushed. I suspected it was clogged again. Note that the toilet is a guest toilet, which was rarely used. So no toilet paper or anything similar get disposed of into the bowl. So, I called up this David guy. To my surprise, HE REFUSED TO LOOK INTO IT because the Amin guy had de-clogged the toilet before. OK, fine, at that moment I promised that I will do everything in my power to tell the world what kind of a contractor he really is.

Then, I called up my old contractor who renovated my house previously. He came eventually, and looked into that. He took out the bowl, used his designated pole (not with his bare hands) to check whether it is clogged or not. IT WASN'T CLOGGED. The reason why water came out through the base of the bowl is there was not enough mixture of cement put at the base of the bowl. In other words, IT WAS THIS DAVID'S DOING ALL ALONG. Now the toilet is doing just fine.

So, a very valuable lesson learned. My advice is don't ever ever appoint a young, inexperience young contractor like David Chow Yong Ee. I don't think he has ever done any hands-on work related to construction. He only came to my house 2-3 times in about 30 minutes each time to supervise his workers, whereas my previous contractor, Mr. Tan did the work himself with his workers. If you want Mr. Tan's contact number, please PM me.

Sorry tohear that, for old timer here, they know many hit and run case here. Lots of former with few post count will say they got good contractor, actually is themselves.

Are we getting more bad and con contractor here in forum?

How to flush out all this bad contractor out from here?

yup, sorry to hear that..... BTW, who is mr. Tan, u renovate your house twice in short period

I guess people just need to use the sense...and do home work lol

Sad n frust to hear such thing

Why don't you directly engage with Mr. Tan earlier since he already renovate your house previously?

I also had bad experience with my contractor, Fong Wai Yip from Fong Brother Design & Renovation. His number is 010-339 9934 & 017-222 7144 from Tmn Sri Ampang.

Initially work done is quite fast without any deposit or advance payment. However after sometimes work stop and not answering my call without any reason. I suspect he is rushing other work. The work supposed to be done within 2 months (actual work about 5-6 weeks). However now already 3 months but still not yet done. Last week he asking for payment and I gave him PT cheque because he suppose to finish some work before the date. And then he got missing for whole week and not answering my call until today. So I stop the cheque and decided to get another contractor to continue the remaining work. Wish me luck that he wont come and disturb the work.

Note: This is young contractor, born year 1985.

You considered lucky if he didn't run away with your $$$ or leave the bad work for other to clean up which require additional $$$

Yes no doubt, consider lucky but the way the contractor not answering my call is unprofessional. I been trying to reach him for a week without success, seems to be leading by him and I am really frustrated. Always tell lie that his man on the way but in the end no show up. Many other sub-contractor also do their work due to he not show up and nobody open the door for the plaster ceiling guy/wiring man.

My tinted installer, grill installer and KC installer are deliver next week but he refuse to clean up the area he dirty. Also my neighbor house is impacted (some area) but he refuse to repair it. It has been more than 6 weeks. Asked him to do it when I saw his workers there, he refuse to do it and ask me to make appointment with my neighbor. Appointment made and he never show up and ignore my call.

Now I found out the 40++ projects actually done by his brother. Although same family but consider as different business. Those feedback I got was refer to his eldest brother BUT NOT HIM. I made a call to his brother and his brother told me that it is due to I didnt pay him. WTH, WTF, I pay him in timely manner..... You see the way he lie and still thick face to ask me to intro business to him ..... Speechless.

Just move ON...you can't do much with him any more, get another group of people to clean it up.

Beat his mother up. Burn his house down. Can't let him walk free.

This one is conman contractor, took money and never turn up. I already lodge police report. I called him and he is still using the same number to con others. Some more challenge me to make police report.

Toh (Ah Meng)
0162644838

Because police won't take any action.
that is why many people still can con other thru internet ...
unless you know inspector, ask inspector help you ..
you must have those proof that he con your money like receipt or quotation or other ...


p/s : is this constractor quote you cheap price ?

Suddenly i feel very lucky 2 get a good contractor..

Price is not the matter when I decided on him. I got no other quotes to compare. He came, and he help to fixed the plumbing.
Then he asked me if I am interested in renovating the house, he gave some idea, and I agreed.
He asked for deposit of RM5K.

sometime I still call him to kacau him a little bit. He is still using his phone to con people all around!

ya... i met the exact contractor as u mention. I only need him to renovate my kitchen, he gave his quotation first then when come to billing he will said tiles is not in the quotation, so got extra charge. he even renovate sth extra which i din ask like the wiring. when ask, he reply i tot u would wana do tat. He claim tat his workmanship is better tats y he charged a bit expensive than the others. but i dont see any workmanship worth it. the paints was dripping on the wall and tiles which look dirty. and he even make my car porch tiles in uneven color due to their chemical.

He is my neighbour. as u said every time when i pass his hse i will b in bad mood.

BAD CONTRACTOR !!!

DO NOT TRY THIS GUY AT YOUR HOME!!!

Company = STYLE RENOVATION & DESIGN
Name = YEE KOK LIN
IC# 750131-08-5925
Mobile# 016-71 999 11

HONG LEONG BANK ACC# 19700019828
MAYBANK ACC# 151203997118

He threaten me to give balance 100% payment (i had pay almost 80%) after he done 50% of work only!
I refuse, then this contractor start to act like samseng and stop work, postpone the work ... macam macam hal buat...

Also, he always act no money to give salary.
His subcontractor all complaint cause he always give empty promise and bounce check to them. Is a jerk ass man!

Finally he abondoned the site and ask his subcontractor to stop half way work.... a night mare to me now..

Sometime I think engage friend expensive a bit better than outside contractor price cheaper a bit.

Engage friends and relatives is the worst, imagine giving u shi tty work u cannot scold them, also they ask for payment u must pay cannot drag if work not nice.

I understand too but to prevent suck problem happen what can do but I know not all contractor not like this.

Best is contractor recommend by friends or maybe can search for contractor recommended by forumers .

I also wish to share NIGHTMARE 'contractor' that I post at Brotan's thread.

(Worst! Don't engage or you will loose your hard earn $$ like me!)
Name: Ng Foo (NRIC No. 450630-10-5017)
Company: Mei Hau Construction (001118582-H) <-- fake business registration number!
Address: 9 Jalan USJ 4/1G Subang Jaya 47600, Selangor
Contact: 014-2341373, 016-9782414
Working: He is active around Selangor, KL and Klang areas.
Reasons: Work done 30%, took 60% cash, stop picking up phone, renovation abandoned, stop paying his workers. He can talk, but all the work he push to Indon guys, never supervise.


(Good Contractor)
Name: Amad (Indon guy)
Contact: 012-6210693 (just say Rick from Puncak Jalil introduce - FYI, I never gets any $$ or referral from him, I want to help him because he helped me and saved me from the above con artist)
Reasons: Amad, who was also not paid by the above con artist, has worked on my house since day 1 (end March 2013), and he continued to work on my house until today (still on going). Although Indon guy, he is honest and he has kept all his promises to me. After agreed on a price, he never charge extra except for things that I added later on (he also never complaints). I buy the materials, he supply the skill and labours.
Works: His work is OK. It is not the best, but OK (I can accept). What he is doing at my house includes electrical, extension (2 storey), landscaping, tiling, plumbing, everything I leave it to him.

This post has been edited by RickOoi: Jul 25 2013, 03:23 PM

I planning to extend my kitchen and shift the toilet. Also done some tiling. mind to share on Amad work?

This post has been edited by ianjae: Aug 5 2013, 01:23 AM

Ianjae, I have just replied your PM before seeing your message here.

Amad's work on my staircase was not very good as it was made too steep, but I can live with it. Other than this, his works are acceptable to me.

I also extended my kitchen (2 storey) and shifted 2 of my toilets (1 upstairs guest toilet, 1 downstairs) to the back (from center). Everything done right so far, don't see any cracks or leakages (maybe too early to tell?). Amad did 2 or 3 times of water proofing the toilets.

Tiling works, he sub to another group of 2 Indons, whom he knew. One of them obviously is a sifu, another apprentice. They worked really fast. The whole house they did it like within 5 days or so, and the tiling works are good. My living room tiles 2x2 is white but has diagonal grey patterns on them (like marbel), I didn't request it, but they aligned them in such a way that the patterns faces the same directions thorough.

I am unable to upload photos because my IP address is blocked? (Anyone knows why or how to resolves please advice).

Thank you.

Hi Stevie.....above your sharing makes me feel bad for those who is really a good contractor....don't get me wrong....I don't mean your contractor behavior and attitude is good...but anyhow I think not paying deposit to them before they start work doesn't sounds rite to me "just in my point of view".... well they are working for a leaving too.... I pay my contractor punctually...btw ive just finish renovated my house hahahaha... well guess im just a lucky ones cause I don't have that kind of problem you are facing.....in short I think we should choose a contractor wisely not because of cheap cheap cheap then we give them do the job and at last what we got is so many problems.........

I am a workaholic and I don't have time to monitor my house.... what I do is just pass the keys and payment to them to start the job after I acknowledge on all the things I wanted... I check on them only once in a while but lucky me... everything was in order and all de material is given as what Im paying =)

The contractor has become one of my close friends now, I actually invited them for my open house... I refer so many friends of mine to them because I think they deserve to be promoted.....hahaha I don't have any commission from them, just that I feel this is my little appreciation to them cause they r so nice to me.. so I just share here with all of you =) and because they give me very good sales after service.... kekeke .... n didn't charge me any extra money for lit lit things hahahaha .......

*I hope I didn't offended you, because all of us work for a leaving...n those contractor too... what we as a consumer do is to choose wisely =)*

Hi Jess,

First, I did not say not paying deposit. Before I could pay materials were delivered as a way to get me more committed than just a signed contract.

2nd, Of course not all contractors are like that but most. I did have a good contractor for my first house but he has since retired.

Last, You must not trust and must check on your contractor and his sub contractors on wet-work especially structural works regardless if you have time or no time and at least you ask how are they going to do it to make sure it is stronger that requirements like beams and pillar, footing and foundation. My contractor, though not a pleasant one, he invited me to inspect the foundation work and beams and pillars before concrete were poured! At first i told him i did not have the time but he insisted I go at crucial time, how big a hole they had dug for the foundation, the footing just before concrete, and he made me count the numbers of rebars and show me its thickness. He even make me claim up to the top of the beams if they had it tied the rebar beam cage properly and with a wielding tool I was told to tell the sub-contractor where else I wanted the rebar to be wield together!

So you see I got a bad attitude contractor when come to finances and negotiation of strength and power but not quality of work.

Thats rite.. If they are the contractor, just tell everybody.
Do not act like public forum member and recommend another contractor who r actually themselves.

But in my case, there is a big problem. when i share pictures, staff will consider i was advertising and ban me.. * just finished 3 days ban in hell

im also in delimma with my house now. promised by contractor finish by last month but till now laminate flooring n kitchen cabinet n 1 aircorn still missing. reschedule more than 3 x due to various reason. has already paid 80% contract payment ...now really stress out dont know when can move back

Kesian...really many types of ppl around...

PLS DO NOT USE THIS CONTRACTOR

HK Renovation & Interior Design
Contact: Mr William / Mr Chin 010-6562862 / 019-3139593 / 03-33588390
office: No. 15-G, Tingkat Bawah, Jalan nKlang Sentral, 5/KU5, Bandar Bukit Raja, 41050 Klang, Selangor
factory: 50, Bandar Saujana Putra, Jalan 4/28, 42610 Jenjarom, Selangor
email : hkreno88@gmail.com

I've appointed him to do major reno (house extension + kitchen cabinets, wardrobe) last year. He provides a sounds reasonable reno quotation initially and promised you he can deliver whatever you design/requested to lure you in to sign it and put down deposits. After that, he started saying this cannot that cannot and charging high price for the material you want but at the end he gave different things which is low quality and made you fed up to change it after dragging long time. Also, finishing is very bad and unprofessional, never fix concrete roof water leaking, wrong door colors/pattern, new tracks installed are scratched and dirty, wrong cabinets design and measurements, uneven plaster ceiling, miscalculate floor tiles number to buy which coz different tiles color tone.... and many more!!) #@!#@!$!%!

This post has been edited by edw3y: Sep 17 2020, 05:20 PM

lucikly! I did ask for quotation from one of the guy (can't remember his name). Price was reasonable compared to other contractors. But somehow I find something fishy as he said "can kawtim one boss" for everything I asked. And doesn't want to give black and white for things he promises.

Currently he is hunting on Alam Impian area. saw his banner in two houses.

Thanks for the heads up

sharing a rogue contractor

Desmond Cheng
0133336672
Humid Core Home Solutions
(also affiliated with NN Brother Solutions)

1. at first told me will start work with 10% payment & additional 40% after work start. Then keep giving excuses to delay start work, eventually force me to pay up to 50% only start.
2. work progress SLOWLY even after being told repeatedly i need it to be done after a week
(1 day i went check onsite and found only 2 foreign workers there doing 1 task)
3. when it finally 'completed' this scumbag threaten that if i don't make full payment on the spot he will not return my house key
4. when i have the chance to inspect the work, found so many defects i have to hire another contractor to clean up the mess.