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thefallengrace
post Aug 27 2012, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(lisahasan @ Aug 27 2012, 08:07 PM)
for me after update, many improvement. by using battery saver, can last until 3days half if texting & calling only. if texting, calling, camera 2 days half. i still use fb. but rarely use thru fon, mostly in my laptop & tab. not install any games, install for photo editing only - 3 apps only
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but my lumia is acting weird. i fully charged, so the battery showed 100%. But the estimated hours left showe 5 hours!
is this normal?
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post Aug 27 2012, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(thefallengrace @ Aug 27 2012, 08:22 PM)
but my lumia is acting weird. i fully charged, so the battery showed 100%. But the estimated hours left showe 5 hours!
is this normal?
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err i dunno. if mine, 100% = 3days and few hours. first time saw dis, like weirdo also. weird la coz 100% can hold up until 3days ++. after using it, now i noe. its true

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post Aug 27 2012, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(lisahasan @ Aug 27 2012, 08:28 PM)
err i dunno. if mine, 100% = 3days and few hours. first time saw dis, like weirdo also. weird la coz 100% can hold up until 3days ++. after using it, now i noe. its true
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ok i will my lumia battery drop till it warns me, then i full charge again. just now i checked my phone, 85%, 10 hours. haiyaaa,,, so worry
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post Aug 27 2012, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(thefallengrace @ Aug 27 2012, 08:33 PM)
ok i will my lumia battery drop till it warns me, then i full charge again. just now i checked my phone, 85%, 10 hours. haiyaaa,,, so worry
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You might want to send it to Nokia Care for checking ><
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post Aug 27 2012, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(lisahasan @ Aug 27 2012, 08:07 PM)
for me after update, many improvement. by using battery saver, can last until 3days half if texting & calling only. if texting, calling, camera 2 days half. i still use fb. but rarely use thru fon, mostly in my laptop & tab. not install any games, install for photo editing only - 3 apps only
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is it possible that im still new with my lumnia that the battery is not 'contidion' with my style? coz i have heard that there are some lumnia user who experienced increased battery life as the days goes by. How long have u have ur lumnia? i have my lumnia for just for 4 days only. Hoping that as i get more days with my lumnia the battery life will increase tho.....
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post Aug 28 2012, 04:18 PM

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not sure if this video been share here, but to others, watch.



So dont drop ur lumia and dont ignore to put protective layer to it.


Added on August 28, 2012, 4:24 pm
QUOTE(thefallengrace @ Aug 27 2012, 10:54 PM)
is it possible that im still new with my lumnia that the battery is not 'contidion' with my style? coz i have heard that there are some lumnia user who experienced increased battery life as the days goes by. How long have u have ur lumnia? i have my lumnia for just for 4 days only.  Hoping that as i get more days with my lumnia the battery life will increase tho.....
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I never heard battery life span will increase as you keep charging. I believe you should not use phone for gaming, else you have to charge battery more often and that will decrease the life span.

For gaming, it only last me 3-5 hours from full charge battery,

For normal usage like wifi on (24hr) and calling (less than 2 hours a day), sms (less than 4 hours a day), checking phone and emails every half n hour. can last me thru nearly 3 days.

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post Aug 28 2012, 05:31 PM

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I didnt believe that so i guess the more charges the longer the battery.

My Lumia 900 when i got it hardly make it thru 6pm with my usage. Now its able to last 10pm after 1month

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post Aug 28 2012, 08:14 PM

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Any tips to reduce noise in low-light? Kinda futile question I know.. just wondering if there's any trick to compensate the poor performance. This is already at ISO 100 and EV -1. Doesn't matter what I set Scene and White Balance to. Is this even normal? shakehead.gif Is there no other way other than shooting in low saturation and post process manually?

Note: It's not normally this bad. This pic had Saturation and Contrast on high. But it's there even on Normal settings. I find that it goes away a bit when Saturation is set to low (and looks more natural as well) but that's not a real solution.

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post Aug 28 2012, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(David900924 @ Aug 28 2012, 04:18 PM)
not sure if this video been share here, but to others, watch.



So dont drop ur lumia and dont ignore to put protective layer to it.


Added on August 28, 2012, 4:24 pm
I never heard battery life span will increase as you keep charging. I believe you should not use phone for gaming, else you have to charge battery more often and that will decrease the life span.

For gaming, it only last me 3-5 hours from full charge battery,

For normal usage like wifi on (24hr) and calling (less than 2 hours a day), sms (less than 4 hours a day), checking phone and emails every half n hour. can last me thru nearly 3 days.
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yesterday i let my lumia battery runs till it warns me then i charged till full, and it can last 12 hours, with 20 minutes of GPS, 30 minit browsing and 15 minit of whatsapps and also wifi on. hoping that tomorrow it will last longer, perhaps 3 days like u guys.
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post Aug 28 2012, 09:25 PM

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Hey guys. Is this normal? See the noise stripes in this pic. I've noticed this since I got the phone, but I thought it's the camera that sucks. Now that I think about it this looks kinda out of place because I saw aspire's low light shots on Lumia 900 and they don't seem to have this kind of stripes. Still noisy, but not bad like this.

Edit: You can see it in my other shot above as well. Look at the right side of the picture.

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post Aug 28 2012, 10:31 PM

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My phone's battery also getting better. Last time with same usage can only last 1 day, now 10pm edi still got 51%. Charged last night.


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QUOTE(David900924 @ Aug 28 2012, 04:18 PM)
not sure if this video been share here, but to others, watch.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


So dont drop ur lumia and dont ignore to put protective layer to it.


Added on August 28, 2012, 4:24 pm
I never heard battery life span will increase as you keep charging. I believe you should not use phone for gaming, else you have to charge battery more often and that will decrease the life span.

For gaming, it only last me 3-5 hours from full charge battery,

For normal usage like wifi on (24hr) and calling (less than 2 hours a day), sms (less than 4 hours a day), checking phone and emails every half n hour. can last me thru nearly 3 days.
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Eh not fair, that 3310 kena knock 1 time only. ohmy.gif

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post Aug 28 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Aug 28 2012, 10:31 PM)
My phone's battery also getting better. Last time with same usage can only last 1 day, now 10pm edi still got 51%. Charged last night.


Added on August 28, 2012, 10:52 pm
Eh not fair, that 3310 kena knock 1 time only. ohmy.gif
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is ur 'estimated time remaining' accurate?
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QUOTE(thefallengrace @ Aug 28 2012, 11:13 PM)
is ur 'estimated time remaining' accurate?
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I think so, more or less.


Added on August 29, 2012, 12:00 amBtw, can we add more colours in "themes"? Without hacking.

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post Aug 29 2012, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(David900924 @ Aug 28 2012, 04:18 PM)
I never heard battery life span will increase as you keep charging. I believe you should not use phone for gaming, else you have to charge battery more often and that will decrease the life span.

For gaming, it only last me 3-5 hours from full charge battery,

For normal usage like wifi on (24hr) and calling (less than 2 hours a day), sms (less than 4 hours a day), checking phone and emails every half n hour. can last me thru nearly 3 days.
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Modern batteries are different, and you should avoid letting the battery running low until the phone turn off frequently.

Actually, it's not new anymore, it's old news. You can google about these modern battery like Li-Ion, Li-Poly. There're test also, between 2 different usage, one heavy use and frequent charging, while another uses traditional way of usage and charging; The difference is quite obvious after some time, the frequent charging gives longer usage.
The test was done using N95, it's been so long ago.

Plus, it's not those traditional battery where you need to run down the battery only charge. Modern batteries, you can charge anytime, and when full it will cut off the supply and usually will not charge until the battery drops to certain percentage. So, just charge everyday.
My previous N900, my usage was very heavy, 1 day needs to charge more than once. It's been over 2 years now, easily over 500 charge cycles... (1 charge cycle, means 100% usage, not how many times you charge; e.g. you use 30% you charge, it's not 1 cycle, it's only 30% of 1 charge cycle).
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post Aug 29 2012, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 29 2012, 09:37 AM)
Modern batteries are different, and you should avoid letting the battery running low until the phone turn off frequently.

Actually, it's not new anymore, it's old news. You can google about these modern battery like Li-Ion, Li-Poly. There're test also, between 2 different usage, one heavy use and frequent charging, while another uses traditional way of usage and charging; The difference is quite obvious after some time, the frequent charging gives longer usage.
The test was done using N95, it's been so long ago.

Plus, it's not those traditional battery where you need to run down the battery only charge. Modern batteries, you can charge anytime, and when full it will cut off the supply and usually will not charge until the battery drops to certain percentage. So, just charge everyday.
My previous N900, my usage was very heavy, 1 day needs to charge more than once. It's been over 2 years now, easily over 500 charge cycles... (1 charge cycle, means 100% usage, not how many times you charge; e.g. you use 30% you charge, it's not 1 cycle, it's only 30% of 1 charge cycle).
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thx for the infos, really a good read thumbup.gif

I only talk from my experience in my nokia n82 (4-5 years old) and cheap nokia (6 years old) and also laptop batteries. I always charging them when they reach 30-40%, after 2 and half year, the battery become less power and only can last 1 n half day instead of 7 days. I only talking about original battery. coz I know my friend who use imitation battery and it only last 6 months before bcome less power.
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QUOTE(David900924 @ Aug 29 2012, 04:58 PM)
thx for the infos, really a good read  thumbup.gif

I only talk from my experience in my nokia n82 (4-5 years old) and cheap nokia (6 years old) and also laptop batteries. I always charging them when they reach 30-40%, after 2 and half year, the battery become less power and only can last 1 n half day instead of 7 days. I only talking about original battery. coz I know my friend who use imitation battery and it only last 6 months before bcome less power.
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If not wrong, N82 is using Li-Ion battery already.

Typical Li-Ion battery lifespan is estimated for 350~500 charge cycle. If your battery lifespan is near, surely it will become less power or weaker.
For simple calculation, just imagine if the usage is 100% per day, so 1 day 1 charge cycle.
365 days = 365 Charge Cycle.
Previous my N900, can say I use over 100% almost everyday, I charge it everyday, even in office. It's already over 2 years, the battery is weaker of course, but still working fine. To calculate, it's easily over the estimated 500 charge cycle lifespan; even if it failed/died one day, it's well utilized and worth it.

Back then long ago, when Li-Ion was still quite new, I have the Motorola MPX200, around year 2002/2003 can't remember. I didn't really charge it and end up the phone always auto-turned off due to low battery. You can still turn on because there is reserved power (which is actually also to PROTECT the battery from damage)... I didn't know about Li-Ion back then and always use the phone until auto-turn off due to low power.... One day, suddenly the battery stop working, refuse to charge.... Send to Motorola, the battery voltage already drop and can no longer be use. Best part, it's just after 6 months... just nice for the battery warranty to end.
After that, did some googling and reading on some forums only learn about these new modern batteries.

Modern battery also don't need these "first time 8 hours charge" and stuffs. You can even use the phone immediately after purchase.

This is one site which provide a lot of information for batteries:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article...based_batteries
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Many shops still remind their customers to charge 8 hours
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 30 2012, 09:48 AM)
Many shops still remind their customers to charge 8 hours
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Haha, yaya, typical.
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Like my iPad and iphoneI haven't do my research on how the battery works but my iPad had 3% battery left even after the next day when I entered a common wifi zone I still received a message battery left 2% but on my other phones if one day I didnt touch other phones it will lose at least 10% battery life.
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Hey gais. Where is Nokia Care Center in KL? The official site is borked and the other thread listing all service centers here is not that clear.

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