Dont understand.

You mean the Fiesta comes out of the showroom with a UR ARB? or you are asking if the aftermarket UR ARB for Fiesta is good?

Torque defined as a quantity that tends to cause rotational acceleration in an object and that:

τ=F⋅d


where d is the distance from the center of rotation.

High torque doesn't mean the car is fast or great acceleration, it simply means it can AFFORD to move. Pure speed/acceleration burns down to HORSE POWER(how much AFM you pour into the combustion chamber). More reference at here and here.

A video that explain trillion words.


This post has been edited by davidke20: Jun 9 2012, 06:49 PM

More torque means more force to accelerate your car ma. Even if you take that T=Fd formula, if d is fixed, that means more torque = more force = stronger acceleration.

In the video, the VW with NOS had comparable torque with the other car, but loss at max speed because it has low horsepower. Diesel summore

So in theory, 169Nm should translate to stronger acceleration, summore it is it's 169 NM on the electric motor alone, which means that it is a flat torque curve at 169Nm all the way....

Correct me if I am wrong, though.

This post has been edited by dares: Jun 9 2012, 07:08 PM

The video trying to tell you diesel lagged in picking up speed, not top speed.

Don't know how to explain. Get yourself in a very powerful D-MAX 3.0, rev up and drive. It's even slower than your Gaga. They don't lose their top speed either, it just take longer time to reach there(your petrol powered speed).

Even for the electric motor, you slam on the accelerator, the wheel hasn't been moving will take > torque to START spinning, as the momentum picks up, < power needed to START, but more to continue spin it faster. How much torque does a torque monster truck has? TOO MUCH. Speed? Nah...

The video trying to tell you diesel lagged in picking up speed, not top speed.

Don't know how to explain. Get yourself in a very powerful D-MAX 3.0, rev up and drive. It's even slower than your Gaga. They don't lose their top speed either, it just take longer time to reach there(your petrol powered speed).

Even for the electric motor, you slam on the accelerator, the wheel hasn't been moving will take > torque to START spinning, as the momentum picks up, < power needed to START, but more to continue spin it faster. How much torque does a torque monster truck has? TOO MUCH. Speed? Nah...

Torque is sure reduce, no alternative unless u change it to smaller compressor.

You only will see headlamp dim slightly and awhile @ idle, because alternator is slow. But once you rev and start moving, no such effect anymore. You can try rev ur engine @ 2k @ idle and observe headlamp during aircon kickin, the headlamp will not dim.

Thats why i said is VS effect is minimum.

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Jun 9 2012, 07:51 PM

either blm/flx or w/e model does rear strut bar cant be installed on saga?

For the electric motor, when I floor the pedal the electric motor have to be generating 169Nm of torque. It is the same 169Nm when starting from a standstill, and it's the same 169Nm accelerating the car from a rolling start. Of course, from standstill a large amount of torque is used to overcome the static inertia of the car so that's fair enough. But when accelerating from a rolling start, flooring the pedal doesn't give me the feeling that there is 169Nm of torque pushing the car.

I press my Gaga to 4k RPM where there's 150Nm of torque, I know what that acceleration feels like. The Prius C does not feel like that, in fact it feels lazy. I am guessing the fault lies with the drive-by-wire system that regulates the electric motor power output.

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Added on June 9, 2012, 9:43 pmwhat is w/e?

This post has been edited by dares: Jun 9 2012, 09:43 PM

me england no understand yours. bahasa please.

by the way, ma BLM now smells like a durian cake

Was it in Eco mode or something?

And you haven't reported on your proper Lagi Best Lagi Power test drive yet

I think he meant Standard / Executive.

You know what, all that talk about the strut bar has gotten really interested, and with Newbie's experience, can I have a front one please

I'm really out of word to explain. When you have a chance, try a WIRA 2.0D 4D68 engine and compare it with a 4G63 SOHC in a Perdana SEi, you'll get a bigger picture. I guess the same theory apply to electric motor as well. Its not about the power output, its the power train matches the tranny, provided the amount of RPM we rev it that time. A good read for you to understand more between diesel VS petrol.

He reported jor la, thats sometime ago. He left his FLX SE damn far away so he won't get suspected by the SA mar. Bulk order! Wohoo!

It was either Eco mode or EV mode wor Havent had time to properly test the LBLP yet

You wish is mah command


3Max 4-point front strut bar
Bulk price RM135 (original RM150) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. dares
2. davidke20
3. Mieza
4. lhwj
5.

3Max 3-point rear strut bar
Bulk price RM120 (original RM130) - Minimum order for bulk price = 5 orders

1. davidke20
2.
3.
4.
5.

If more than 3 orders for both front and rear struts, total will be RM250
Bulk closing date - 15 June 2012.

refer to spoiler for the front strut bar installed in SiuYi's car (sorry SiuYi pls dun mind )





This post has been edited by dares: Jun 9 2012, 10:33 PM

TT we discuss

That time I only manage to test the awesome tiny turning radius of the LBLP coz SA ask me to U-turn back to the showroom

wah..talked about torque..

hmm..how to improve torque in our beloved campro high revving?

mine juz switch off air-cond...torque improved...

Mine too

Eh how come your Porsche runs on Campro one ah??

Now I wonder how a 1.3 Campro CFE would be like. Something like 160-180 nm would be great. Maybe Potong can consider for Saga v.3

This post has been edited by lhwj: Jun 9 2012, 10:42 PM

hahaha..its my feveret car..if V10 from carrera GT, its lacks torque too..high reviving too~

same as campro

1.3 campro cfe? wow...wud be nice product

Take the 1.6 CFE engine. Change to 1.3 stroker kit.

any1 facing problem with their power windows already?? for FLX user..

Yep. Whenever I take a left corner and put my hand on the door to support myself, I would ter-open the windows.

Specifically what problem?

mines got the sound of the mirror rubbing the rubber very hard...and the mirror go up and down is no longer smooth...sangkut sangkut abit...